Right. The online world used to be called Expanded Universe, but I can't find that particular site anymore. Now it's unto Databank or something. But yeah, all the aftermath stories show just how difficult it was to change the course of the Empire. There were battles a-plenty left. Indeed, often there can be more and more painful fighting after the evil leaders are gone. And the relatively small number of Jedi would be hard tasked to restore a moral center to the galaxy entire as they struggled to rebuild their Order and make sure their own don't give in to temptation again. For example, I do recall reading that the Emperor lived on in that shade form that Yodi and Obi-Wan used, and continued to wreak his evil influence on people. I know Luke is forced in a way to give in to the Dark Side, and I believe either his son or his nephew also fell to the Darkness for a while. Realistically, the ending Kurtz mentions, with Leia overwhelmed by the work to be done, and Luke walking away to contemplate a difficult future, would have been better. I'm surprised someone hasn't created a fan film where, right in the middle of the Ewok Lua, a force of ships loyal to the Empire didn't show up and bomb the place.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Baxter" <martinbaxt...@gmail.com> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 6:28:56 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Gary Kurtz Speaks Bluntly About George Lucas Another spot-on analysis, Keith. Reminds me of a fantasy novel that came out a few years ago (the name of which escapes me), considering what happens after the happy ending, that there's the management and clean-up aspects yet to be done. And I've read a few of the SW novels, enough to see the strengthening foundation that been laid for the SWverse. One batch in particular regards the Mandalorians (the clones of Jango Fett that chose not to be Stormtroopers, packed up and left for Mandalor). They developed their own unique culture, and even a language unlike any in the remnants of the Empire. On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@comcast.net > wrote: The below from the interview really resonates with me. One problem i always had with "Return of the Jedi" was the ending. I kept thinking that just because the second Death Star was destroyed, and Vader and the Emperor dead, that only meant the work was beginning. After all, there was a huge interstellar apparatus in place that had aided and been complicit with the Empire's depredations. This system included the rule of whole solar systems, a corrupt Senate, leaders on hundreds of worlds loyal to the Empire that gave them money and power, a military dedicated to the Empire, and a dearth of Jedi to enforce the principles of the Old Republic. In short, the work was indeed just beginning, and tackling the task of a galaxy-wide makeover of a totalitarian state into a democratic one again would be a monumental task. Look at how the former Soviet Union is already struggling mightily with autocratic elements fighting with its democratic aspirations. They have a Prime Minister who was an autocratic president who's basically their strong man. So the "Ewok lua" as he put it, was indeed premature. I think that if you read some of the books, and study the Expanded Universe online, you see more mature, thoughtful, and in-depth treatments that handle that world a lot better than the kid- and crowd-pleasing movies. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Baxter" < martinbaxt...@gmail.com > To: "SciFiNoir2" < scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 5:01:40 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Gary Kurtz Speaks Bluntly About George Lucas George Lucas, Mercenary Bastich First Class? You betcha, according to Kurtz... http://www.collider.com/2010/08/13/star-wars-and-empire-strikes-back-producer-gary-kurtz-speaks-bluntly-about-george-lucas-return-of-the-jedi-and-more/ -- "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
