> Carole,
> 
> I have to ask this, though.  We're black.  We're into science 
fiction (and
> fantasy, and horror, and whatnot).  Are we so very different from 
other
> black people?  Why did *we* get into this stuff, and why can't the 
factors
> that influenced us work for others?


CM: Dunno on this. I can only think that we're writers and therefore 
escapists. We read as kids to get into other worlds. Writers read 
more than other people, therefore writers would read more scifi than 
other people, there black writers would read more than regular black 
readers.  As for SF, I've noticed that many folks I know will 
say "but science fiction" isn't real. Or "fantasy" is sexual. Yep, 
there are weird stuff to get past in folks' minds. This addiction to 
the real is a problem I think. So many black writers have come into 
writing not through being literature majors but through sociology, 
politics or pastoral issues.

> 
> One of my students shocked me the other day.  He's about 19 or 20, 
typical
> thug-style young brotha with prettier cornrows than mine, which we 
had to
> talk about because I was about to send him out for his first 
professional
> job experience (among other things, I coordinate internships at my
> university).  I was discussing with him whether he really should 
wear that
> gold medallion to work, when he happened to glance at my open 
attache bag
> and saw that I had a copy of Karin Lowachee's WARCHILD.  "Oh," he 
said, "you
> read science fiction.  Have you read Octavia Butler?"
> 
> I nearly fell out of my chair.  Thereafter we had a much more 
interesting
> conversation, about sci fi and black writers and Lowachee (who he 
thought
> was "some kind of ethnic").  


CM: I've got to be totally frank here. If the kid made it to collebe, 
he's a serious kid and probably read. NOTE: I'm sitting here every 
day nagging older son to go out and look for a job and to practice 
his paintings and photography instead of going out to clubs with his 
loser friends. So if we're talking about the average college-educated 
kid, of course he's gonna know what's out there in the literary 
world. SF or not. The average American has an 8 grade reading level. 
The average reader of typical romance novels is the one who reads 
most of the books published by the publishing world. At least, that's 
what I read...that romance novels are the big sellers of fiction. So 
maybe the normally-educated (8th grade education) person just can't 
handle books like SF. I'm just thinking here...writing aloud. 
Speculative fiction has so many levels. We have to trust that people 
understand a kind of "truth" even if it is a story that is "not 
true." Truth to tell, maybe some folks just can't handle the "truth" 
of SF. 

But what gets me is this:  why was I so<<SNIPPED>> 
> Yeah -- internalized racism on my part; definitely something to 
work on.  =(
> But now I often wonder -- just how many closeted geeky black kids 
are there
> out there, whom we've assumed wouldn't touch sci fi with a ten foot 
pole?  I
> know Chris would disagree, but doggone it, *we* didn't spring fully-
formed
> from Sam Delaney's head.  =P  If we can exist, why do we think it's 
so
> unlikely that there would be others?
> 
> Nora

CM: Ah those internalized racist tendencies. I know them well. I was 
talking to a black woman artist once -- hadn't seen her work-- and 
she asked me to come up to her studio. Well, I immediately assumed 
she would be horrendous and uneducated because she didn't look the 
way my trendy black artist friends look.  NOTE: She looked like me.

I remember telling someone that I was writing a book once and she --
black-- looked upon me with most piteous eyes. I obviously didn't 
look trendy enough.

But to answer your comment: maybe there are a lot of closeted geeks 
out there. They have to have strong souls, those kids...because even 
now the pull of the streets, the clubs, BET and of MTV are strong.

-C





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