Gotta clarify


MEant "too much hurt" not "too much earth"

Meant Jewish/Catholic neighborhood which meant all our neighbors in 
the apartment we integrated were Jewish, Polish, Italian, Irish. A 
lot of racial and religious battering, I'll tell you. Which has left 
me very impatient with anyone who picks on the religion or race or 
other folks.

-C

--- In [email protected], "Carole McDonnell" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "sancochojo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > Unfortunately, I would never defend the behavior of Gangsta 
rappers.
> > I would defend the art of rap, but not the gangsta rappers. To me 
it
> > does a disservice to the community.  I'm not religious, nor 
follow a
> > denomination, but I do have some level of respect.  I would never 
on
> > one hand call on the Lord and thank him for my success than on the
> > other hand my success is based on exploiting Black woman and
> > glorifying the least things we should glorify.  The problem in our
> > community is that we spend too much time defending the 
undesirables 
> in
> > our community and not praising those who provide value to our
> > community.  To me, becoming rich off of the backs of half naked 
> woman,
> > and blunts and bling is something I do not consider success or a 
> value
> > to the community.
> 
> 
> CM: I'm a Christian and so I try not to judge people. I leave that 
to 
> the unreligious.
> 
> > 
> > I also have disfavor for the elites and simple leaders who run 
these
> > Mega churches.  I always have to ask myself, If Jesus was here, 
> would
> > he be rolling around in $1,000 suites, huge homes, and fancy 
cars.  
> I
> > would say, he would not because he would say drop everything and 
he
> > would live basic enough to support his family. Now, I'm talking 
> about
> > those who choose to preach the word of God.  Unfortunately living 
in
> > the US, the religious community have learned to justify excess 
> living
> > all in the name of God.
> 
> 
> CM: The US is all about excess but I suspect that people who have 
> been poor all their lives don't know how to handle money when they 
> get it. Whether white or black, religious or not, when the poor get 
> money they tend to show it off. They have been wounded so long and 
so 
> disrespected that their egos need these externals. They want to get 
> back at the racist cop, the snooty white authority figure who 
dissed 
> them. Am not saying it's okay but I will defend them. It's the same 
> with other areas. Powerful people also show off their power, just 
as 
> the rich show off their wealth. I remember a rich black guy I met 
who 
> said "when I want a cab I take a cab from a white guy then I lay a 
> big tip on him; when I want a building built I use white people and 
I 
> lay a big tip on them. I want to show them that we don't need 
them." 
> We are a wounded people in many ways and our approach to wealth 
shows 
> how much we and our folks have come from. True, those rappers kill 
> each other and buy a lotta STUFF but they always buy they mama a 
big 
> house. As I said, I'm a Christian I am not put on earth to judge 
> people...life is too full of earth. I can only hope that when I've 
> finished doing the six great works I've been appointed to do on 
> earth, that I will be so spiritually healed from the crap I've 
gotten 
> from whites, atheists, my horrible racist neighhbors when I grew up 
> in the Jewish Catholic neighborhood, authority figures that treated 
> me badly, that I will be more concerned with helping the poor than 
> with showing the rich and powerful that I am now one of them. 
> 
>  
> > The amount that many churches donate, contribute or what have 
you, 
> is
> > miniscuel in relationship to the money that goes into their 
> pockets. 
> > The Catholic Church is renown for that behavior, and these mega
> > churches are not far from that.  If churches were forced to pay 
> taxes,
> > I really wonder how well those ledgers would really reflect 
honesty.
> > 
> 
> CM: All human institutions are evil and they are run by either good 
> people or bad people. Usually both. As someone who has suffered a 
lot 
> from folks generalizing about blacks or Christians, I try not to 
> generalize or reduce any group or person to one statement. As I 
say, 
> I am involved in churches and I know what churches do. It's odd for 
> people to pick on everyone in an organization, especially when they 
> are not involved in those organizations. I could easily say that 
just 
> because Kwame gave tons of jobs to his friends and ex-lovers in the 
> NAACP that the NAACP is evil. I could say that CORE is evil. Or for 
> that matter all the black "non-profit" organizations in the world 
> that have benefitted from our donations. But I don't. And 
certainly, 
> the same people who shout out against ALL churches being greedy 
don't 
> shout out against ALL black organizations being greedy.  People are 
> human. They will -- especially if they have been poor and powerless-
- 
> not always use the money given to them in the right way. But 
> sometimes they might. So should we stop giving money to bums on the 
> street, or to a poor relative, just because they are going to waste 
> it or use it for evil?  As I said, I'm a Christian. I don't demand 
> perfection of others, especially since I don't know what I would do 
> if tempted with tons of money, power and responsibility.  I'm glad 
> you can judge matters this easily. I cannot.  As a Christian I know 
> that these things are too complicated. But non-christians can see 
> through complications I guess and make reductionist statements. 
This 
> is a free country and they are allowed to. -C




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