On 03/26/2012 12:06 AM, Gael Varoquaux wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 11:56:31PM +0200, Andreas wrote:
>    
>> As far as I can see, your groups are "KMeans + Ward" and "rest".
>> I don't know how ward works but looking at the lena example,
>> the clusters don't seem to be convex.
>>      
> But you are looking in the wrong space: the physical space, and not the
> feature space.
>
>    
Yeah, stupid me. I was wondering whether x, y is in the feature
space at all (it is not in the example), and then I thought "well
that doesn't look convex".
Maybe I should go to bed ...

>> Skimming the tutorial, I am not sure what the answer to that question is.
>> I think they are both relaxations of the normalized cuts problem,
>> but lead to different solutions in gerneral.
>>      
> Back when I looked at that in details, I convinced myself that they were
> solving the same problem, but one was using a positive-definite eigen
> value problem, and the other a general one. The positive-definite problem
> is much easier to solve, and more stable numerically.
>
>    
Ok then I'll believe you now :)
Also I have learned something about spectral clustering.
Thanks! :)

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