Just a comment from the statistics sidelines

taking log of target and fitting a linear or other model doesn't make it
into a Poisson model.

But maybe "Poisson loss" in machine learning is unrelated to the Poisson
distribution or a Poisson model with E(y| x) = exp(x beta). ?

Josef


On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Andreas Mueller <t3k...@gmail.com> wrote:

>  I'd be happy with adding Poisson loss to more models, thought I think it
> would be more natural to first add it to GLM before GBM ;)
> If the addition is straight-forward, I think it would be a nice
> contribution nevertheless.
> 1) for the user to do np.exp(gbmpoisson.predict(X)) is not acceptable.
> This needs to be automatic. It would be best if this could be done in a
> minimally intrusive way.
>
> 2) I'm not sure, maybe Peter can comment?
>
> 3) I would rather contribute sooner, but other might thing differently.
> Silently ignoring sample weights is not an option, but you can error if
> they are provided.
>
> Hth,
> Andy
>
>
> On 07/23/2015 08:52 PM, Peter Rickwood wrote:
>
>
>  Hello sklearn developers,
>
> I'd like the GBM implementation in sklearn to support Poisson loss, and
> I'm comfortable in writing the code (I have modified my local sklearn
> source already and am using Poisson loss GBM's).
>
>  The sklearn site says to get in touch via this list before making a
> contribution, so is it worth me to submitting something along these lines?
>
>  If the answer is yes, some quick questions:
>
>  1) The simplest implementation of poisson loss GBMs is to work in
> log-space (i.e. the GBM predicts log(target) rather than target), and
> require the user to then take the exponential of those predictions. So, you
> would need to do something like:
>           gbmpoisson = sklearn.ensemble.GradientBoostingRegressor(...)
>           gbmpoisson.fit(X,y)
>           preds = np.exp(predict(X))
> I am comfortable making changes to the source for this to work, but I'm
> not comfortable changing any of the higher-level interface to deal
> automatically with the transform. In other words, other developers would
> need to either be OK with the GBM returning transformed predictions in the
> case where "poisson" loss is chosen, or would need to change code in the
> 'predict' function to automatically do the transformation is poisson loss
> was specified. Is this OK?
>
> 2) If I do contribute, can you advise what the best tests are to
> test/validate GBM loss functions before they are considered to 'work'?
>
>  3) Allowing for weighted samples is in theory easy enough to implement,
> but is not something I have implemented yet. Is it better to contribute
> code sooner that doesn't handle weighting (i.e. just ignores sample
> weights), or later that does?
>
>
>
>
>  Cheers, and thanks for all your work on sklearn. Fantastic tool/library,
>
>
>
>  Peter
>
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