Indeed. I think the discussion so far points to let's have one, keep it short & sweet. I don't see any real reasons not to, and some possible benefits to having one.
On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 2:57 PM, Bill Deegan <[email protected]> wrote: > Anatoly, > > In the entire history of SCons we've only had a small handful of instances > where any of the proposed CoC's might have been violated. > So infrequent I can't remember the last one. > > That said, if you can prove harm or point to any project where it harmed > their community to have a CoC, then I (and I expect the rest of the SCons > developer list) would be interested in such. > > Nothing you've said thus far has been convincing to me (nor it seems any > other community member). > Otherwise it is speculation. > > I can say for certain that some organizations expect such when providing > grant money to open source communities. > For me that's sufficient reason. > > I will also say that if the SCons project finds that having a CoC is > damaging to it's community, then we'll revise or revoke it as appropriate. > (where damaging doesn't equal one person is being unreasonable or abusive > and doesn't like having the fact that their behavior violates the CoC, but > does equal contributions to the project including features and/or bugfixes > and/or docs slow to a standstill, and/or usage of SCons diminishes in a > meaningful way measurable to the adoption of a CoC). > > -Bill > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 2:10 PM, anatoly techtonik <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 8:02 PM, William Blevins <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 2:59 AM, Bill Deegan <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> An extra 2cents of opinion from me.. ;) >> >> >> >> A few things a CoC would help with: >> >> 1) It could encourage more participation on the mailing lists. Open >> source >> >> projects have been notorious for scathing responses to simple >> questions. >> >> Surprisingly I've been at clients who have used SCons for years and >> never a >> >> single member of their staff has asked a question on the mailing >> list.. I >> >> was shocked. >> > >> > >> > I don't think this attitude is uncommon. Many of my past coworkers view >> > interacting on forums and mailing lists as a "hassle", and they would >> rather >> > try to brute force since they "know" best. I'm not sure this can be >> helped. >> > unfortunately. >> >> I agree. Businesses discourage people from spending time on forums. They >> can only understand it if they pay money for it. Also not many companies >> want outside World to know that they can't do something themselves. >> >> So, if business people want straightforward and nice discussions, let them >> pay for it. Otherwise there is conflict that those of us who volunteers >> and >> are not being paid should behave well in order to provide free service for >> those who don't care. >> >> The paragraph above is an example that CoC doesn't solve anything, because >> it doesn't remove causes of conflicts. >> >> -- >> anatoly t. >> _______________________________________________ >> Scons-dev mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/scons-dev >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Scons-dev mailing list > [email protected] > https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/scons-dev > > -- Gary
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