I am unclear on what people are suggesting as fixes to the issue. However I
believe we tweak the way we “load” the Sconstruct we can control which print
logic is used when python 2.7 is used. I don’t believe there is any way to
allow the “classic” python 2.7 print to work in python 3.
I think if we can allow user of python 2 and SCons to not have their files
break, that is a win. When using python 3 the users will need to update the
SConstruct print statements ( or use some API we might be able to add). With
this python3 capable drop of SCons I believe we should allow people to migrate
to the new print() api by injecting a print function when SCons is used in
python2. Such as function would look something like:
# print prototype for python 2.7
def print(*lst,**kw):
msg = list(map(str,lst))
msg = kw.get('sep',' ').join(msg) + kw.get('end','\n')
sys.stdout.write(msg)
This should allow users of python 2 to have everything work as expected, given
them time to move to a python3 like print() function over time. The will be
able with python2 to have print and print(). This should allow user time to
migrate SConstructs for a safe move python 3 when they are ready.
Still think having an official API will be a good thing long term, however this
should allow current users to not break. We have to remember that no one is
using python3 at this time, so expecting Sconstuct to change to work in python
3 is not unreasonable, given we don’t have API’s in SCons today to prevent
that. Users still may want to SCons to add Api to make this easier. Such as
case could happen with files. I know Steve Knight had said a number of times he
wanted to SCons users to use the node File and Dir to do all file based actions
for example. If that work had happened it could help as well with current
builders that will break when moving to python3 because of changes needed in
the API to load data as expected.
Just some thoughts, hope this might help
Jason
From: Scons-dev [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill Deegan
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 1:08 PM
To: SCons developer list <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Scons-dev] no more print statements in SConscripts?
Gary,
Yup. that's expected.
Not sure how to handle this gracefully (besides as Jason suggests some
"official" messaging API for SCons, which also would require time for users to
adjust to).
Out of curiosity, would 2to3 resolve the issues you ran into?
(In theory it should)
Other issues might bit chmod bitmasks (though not until they run via py3)
-Bill
On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 5:59 AM, Gary Oberbrunner <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
Hi folks; I know I've been out of the loop recently, lots going on. Great work
getting the python 3 stuff in!
I did just try the default branch (with python2.7 on Windows) and I notice
print statements (not the function, just the statement) in
SConstructs/SConscripts are now syntax errors. This'll probably be a big change
for users. Just FYI.
--
Gary
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