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> [mailto:owner-scots-l@;argyll.wisemagic.com]On Behalf Of David Kilpatrick
> Sent: 18 October 2002 19:10
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [scots-l] I've got the virus too - perhaps I can help.
>
> Ted Hastings wrote:
>
>
> > As far as I can see, the principal characteristic of the "Unix user
> > community" is to criticise Microsoft and Windows at every opportunity.
> > Windows users don't seem to be nearly as prone to bashing the
> > competition, perhaps because they're getting on with productive work
> > using the world's best-selling software, rather than writing their
> > own fixes for OS bugs :<)
> >
> Try telling that to my son, who has been unable to work at all
> for the last three days
> because of the ridiculous registry system used by Microsoft, which if
> you are obliged to install many programs and attempt to remove them (we
> have to test digital cameras, scanners, software etc all the time) and
> also run heavily protected software like Sage Payroll on the same
> machine - well, the risks are huge.

No one is "obliged" to install many programs and attempt to remove them.
However, if yoy *choose* to do so then surely any problems encountered
are a result of the vendors' failure to follow Microsoft's guidance on
writing uninstall routines.
>
> I was told that Mac OS X with its 64,000 system components was a
> nightmare but not so - unlike Windows NT/2000/XP whatever, it really can
> handle a re-installation without losing a single user preference or a
> single essential file, or any of the links betweens programs, data and
> system-level components installed by programs for their own use.

Simply because there are only a minute number of Mac applications compared
with the number of PC applications available.

> We can't afford to have multiple PCs but we are now considering having
> one just to run payroll and contact info software, one just to run
> Internet access, and one for testing equipment and software which can be
> erased and reinstalled without risk.

This may have been an argument when PCs were expensive, but it's hardly true
nowadays when you can buy a resonable PC for a few hundred quid.  The idea
using separate PCs for different purposes seems like simple common sense to
me.

> We've been using Sun, Mac, BeBox,
> Acorn, various Linux installations (on both Mac and PC), many handhelds
> and pioneer products over the last decade or so and:
> of all the systems and platforms out there, not one is as utterly awful
> as the Microsoft/PC platform. It is the only platform which consistently
> costs us time, money and anger.

And I suspect that it's the only one with which you've tried to use the
complex mixture of applications described above.

> I can be frustrated at time with Macs, but at least:
> I can switch in two minutes to working under OS9 and do any work I need
> to on OS X components, without 'ownership' issues and access privileges
> hampering me

You're not comparing like with like. "'ownership' issues and access
privileges" only become an issue if you're running a server, which should
only be done if you have the appropriate training.

> I can boot up and run my system from a CD
> I can run software we bought in 1984 alongside the latest packages, and
> be utterly stable and print reliably - not ALL software from 1984, of
> course, and I have a cupboard full of software which stopped running the
> year after it was purchased, as was never rewritten...
> because Windows was the world's leading platform, and it wasn't worth
> keeping stuff live on Macs at the time.

Yes, that's WHY Windows is the leading software platform, not BECAUSE it's
the leading softare problem. A huge number of 1984 applications still run
quite happily on a PC, without needing rewritten.
>
> However, now Macs are essentially Unix machines, that problem has gone,
> and I can well understand why the peculiar folk of the Unix community
> have been so gnarly for so many years. They were right all along.
>
What I don't understand is why all the people who raved about the Mac OS
for years have quietly dropped it in favour of Unix, which has been around
a lot longer than Macs.

Regards,

Ted

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