What about log sessions from other times? You are being selective to suit your case! Tony Dyer
> ------------Original Message------------ > From: Kyle Gordon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Mon, Dec-22-2003 10:49 PM > Subject: [Scottish] IRC Debate logs > > For those that care, we have recently had a heated debate on #scotlug about the > future and the direction of SLUG as a group. I am posting the logs for completeness > and so that those who are not on IRC or have no interest in it can see what would > otherwise be called 'behind the scenes' > > It's all open to your interpratation. The view presented here are the views of each > individual person, which may or may not be a shared view of the situation > > - windy [EMAIL PROTECTED] has joined #scotlug > 21:07 < caagaard> bagpuss_thecat, allways for you :-) > 21:07 < bagpuss_thecat> evening windy > 21:08 < windy> evening all > 21:10 < bagpuss_thecat> well, it _was_ busy in here until about 4 minutes ago > 21:10 < tam> interesting post to the list that was > 21:10 < tam> bagpuss_thecat: well am trying to work...but more keep on coming in and > i get bored as i see the queue getting more red > 21:11 < bagpuss_thecat> an archive of talks would be nice, and advertising of the > mailing list would also be helpful > 21:12 < bagpuss_thecat> I would offer to organise that stuff, but don't have the > time. And the last time I attempted to organise anything for scotlug I got slated > for 'taking control' and not 'asking my peers' etc > 21:12 < windy> My ears must have been burning > 21:12 < bagpuss_thecat> tam: work... :-/ > 21:13 < bagpuss_thecat> windy: indeed > 21:13 < windy> so whats the gen? > 21:13 < bagpuss_thecat> tam: I have damned american everywhere wanting answers for a > 3 hour outage earlier on today > 21:13 < bagpuss_thecat> a/american/americans/ > 21:13 < bagpuss_thecat> windy: 'the gen'? > 21:13 < tam> bagpuss_thecat: i've got 6 radiance cases in my queue > 21:14 < windy> The thoughts? > 21:14 < tam> i've done around 15 since i came in > 21:14 < bagpuss_thecat> I don't have a terribly good grasp of abbreviations or > acronyms :-p > 21:14 < bagpuss_thecat> aah > 21:14 < tam> make that 7 cases now > 21:15 < windy> We need to become something more than we have been of late or we > should stop kidding ourselves on. > 21:16 < bagpuss_thecat> well, I speak for myself when I say that a comittee would be > nice and would bring some order to the group. Unfortunately some believe that a > committe is just the beginning of a big formal group, etc, etc, and is moving > scotlug away from it's roots > 21:16 < bagpuss_thecat> s/it's/its/ > 21:16 < bagpuss_thecat> its roots being a loosely joined group of people with a > common interest > 21:16 < windy> If we want a drinking club or a meal club then form one of those > 21:17 < windy> with a common interest in Linux and open source not drinking or eating > 21:17 < windy> About growing as a group > 21:17 < bagpuss_thecat> yes > 21:18 < sjmurdoch> edward: IBM R31 - so yes, it would seem like you are correct > 21:18 < bagpuss_thecat> I'm at a bit of a loss really > 21:18 < windy> Some of us are in it for the long term not just passing through or > being cool or fashionable > 21:18 < bagpuss_thecat> everyone seems keen to talk and discuss, but noone wants to > take on the responsibility > 21:19 < bagpuss_thecat> tbh, I don't know of many who have just passed through > 21:19 < tam> what is cool or fashionable about it? > 21:19 < tam> windy: ^ > 21:20 < windy> I've done it for four year and in spite of my premature demise as > written by Mr Ben I now have the time and inclination to make a comeback > 21:20 * Neil_ moves his idling stool closer > 21:20 < kenny> so how would you see the committee being formed based on you needed a > quarim of 5 people to hav ea meeting? what roles would you need? > 21:21 < tam> kenny: a great speaker like you for a start > 21:21 < kenny> im just good with the ladies tam > 21:21 < tam> could give a talk oon how you got your soundcard working > 21:21 < bagpuss_thecat> kenny: with some commas, it actually makes sense :-p > 21:21 < tam> kenny: well we know that is just an exageration as you did give her 20 > quid > 21:21 < kenny> I did not give her 20 quid > 21:21 < bagpuss_thecat> ladies, later > 21:22 < kenny> hehe > 21:22 < tam> kenny: IOU ? > 21:22 < radman> anyone used a sharp zaurus? > 21:22 < radman> # > 21:22 < radman> woopsey > 21:22 < Neil_> first point of order, bigkevmcd recommned it might be a good idea to > put an 'offical' scotlug presence into this: > http://www.icm-computer.co.uk/events/events_current.asp > 21:22 < windy> That is a matter of the individuals perception of a thing, it's when > it comes to giving time and resources you seperate the commited from the fop > 21:22 < kenny> but a committee needs a structure, the roles need to have a palce > within the comittee, I mean is a treasurer needed? waht would the treasurers trole > be? what is the need, its needs to be put down in a constitution > 21:22 < Neil_> but as we can't really define an offical scotlug presence at the > moment we're a bit fscked, so here is a goal. > 21:23 < kenny> what was the original goal of scotlug when it was launched? > 21:23 < bagpuss_thecat> Neil_: looks good, and I like the idea > 21:24 < windy> Why dont you announce this as the topic of January's debate and open > it to all who can attend rather than stick it up here? > 21:24 < bagpuss_thecat> put it to the list, and we'll get about 3 replies. If we > make a move and try to go ahead with it, we'll get a different 3 people saying 'Who > are you to represent us?'. And then we're stuck in a deadlock > 21:25 < bagpuss_thecat> windy: sounds good > 21:25 < bagpuss_thecat> kenny: signed up to the list? > 21:25 < kenny> i dont think it would be like that bagpuss_thecat. but for the > suggestion of a comittee is perhaps a good idea. but the roles need to be defined > and a future goal and objective needs to be set then discussed to see if its a > viable idea. > 21:25 < kenny> yeah bagpuss_thecat > 21:26 < windy> I think I form GLUG! > 21:26 < windy> I think Colin might join me! > 21:26 < bagpuss_thecat> lol > 21:27 < bagpuss_thecat> there's been a change in the matrix... > 21:27 < windy> Might not be as funny as you think > 21:27 < seaLne> glug == gnu linux users group? > 21:27 < windy> Genuine > 21:27 < drochaid> glug == someone drinking noisily > 21:27 < kenny> why do taht windy. you have a hard core folliwing here. of very > helpful people. > 21:28 < bagpuss_thecat> g = glasgow > 21:28 < drochaid> maybe to people who know, not anyone else looing at it > 21:28 < seaLne> GlaLUG if anything > 21:28 < kenny> well commuication is the key there drochaid > 21:29 < kenny> both ways. > 21:29 < drochaid> kenny, communication is only part of it > 21:29 < seaLne> there are already enough GLUGs and SLUGs to confuse people > 21:29 < kenny> speaking as a n00b! coming here and talking to everyone is great. but > the meets are great for going round in circles introducing yourself getting to know > people and making that level of communication better so that you can get more help. > 21:30 < drochaid> yes, I have enough slugs in my garden already > 21:30 < windy> who keep pissing about and I don't what else beause too much is said > in this formum and not in an inclusive way > 21:30 < kenny> in what way? windy. > 21:31 < windy> How many people participate in SLUG IRC channel > 21:31 < seaLne> /names > 21:31 < windy> How many peop;e are on the mailing list > 21:31 < kenny> I dunno well ther are 35 people here just now. > 21:31 < seaLne> and more at different times > 21:31 < kenny> dunno. > 21:31 < bagpuss_thecat> how many people are active on the mailing list? > 21:31 < windy> How many people have joined the forums? > 21:32 < drochaid> forums? > 21:32 < drochaid> mailing list? > 21:32 < windy> What is the hitrate on the website > 21:32 < Neil_> windy: what is your point? > 21:32 < kenny> so you think a committee will get those numbers up then? > 21:32 < windy> Has anyone renewed any of the international listings of SLUG? > 21:32 < Neil_> were we supposed to? > 21:33 < bagpuss_thecat> did we know about it? > 21:33 < Neil_> did the original maintainer delegate? > 21:33 < bagpuss_thecat> was it documented? > 21:33 < windy> That's my point > 21:33 < drochaid> does windy have a point? > 21:33 < windy> Who are you or I speeking for? > 21:33 < kenny> thats not a committee you need then. you jsut need people who are > going to do those jobs. and get it documented somehwere. > 21:33 < seaLne> www.scotlug.org.uk/statistics/ > 21:34 < windy> We need to establish what and who are members of SLUG attendees of > meetings, maillist, IRc or WHAT? > 21:35 < Neil_> bagpuss_thecat: heh, glasgownet.com is the top requester :) > 21:35 < kenny> Well for meetings tahts impossible. Work,. family commitments it all > depends on a monthly basis. Mail list, you have to take that into consideration. as > for IRC why use a mailing list the same when people can chat live? > 21:35 < seaLne> define "members"? > 21:35 < windy> The membership, all of it must be involved in the way forward > 21:35 < bagpuss_thecat> Neil_: nah, that'll just be the RSS feed > 21:35 < Neil_> ah > 21:35 < windy> We need to define that > 21:36 < kenny> do ou want people to spend money of a fee to join sctlug? if so who > will that money be used? how have things been funded so far? is ther any need for a > fund? > 21:36 < windy> I suggest the the mailing list be the basis of our membership > 21:36 < kenny> why? > 21:37 < seaLne> then you would have to see who is active > 21:37 < windy> That all discussion on this be channeled through that medium > 21:37 < kenny> why, we keep logs dont we? that can used as a refrence > 21:38 < windy> It's the oldest and as far as I am aware the biggest of the media we > use and is available in asynchronous mode > 21:38 < Neil_> hmm > 21:38 < bagpuss_thecat> errr > 21:38 < bagpuss_thecat> ok > 21:39 * bagpuss_thecat has better things to be doing just now > 21:39 < kenny> well, I seen the mailing list, and ther wasnt much on it. as for the > stuff that goes on in here! > 21:39 < kenny> bigger mediam, bigger scope for help. > 21:39 < windy> People can read all that is written and can choose to participate or > not irrespective of realtime constraints > 21:39 < kenny> I might be able to chaneel my problem through a mailing list, but why > do taht when I can just come here > 21:39 < tam> windy: irc is the way now. mailing lists is good to say stuff on a wide > range and on an important note > 21:40 < Neil_> or if you can't get help by literally asking your mates > 21:40 < kenny> I had a problem with my soundcard, it took me 4 days to get it fixed. > now thats me being a n00b, but if I didnt come here to get suggestions idea it could > have taken longer, then I might have just got brassed off and went to windows again > 21:40 < seaLne> a days worth of conversations on irc would take years on a mailing > list > 21:40 < tam> yup. irc has much better support IMO > 21:40 < Neil_> it would be good to have solutions to problems and stuff happening > with scotlug members documented on the mailing list, but I don't see it happening > 21:40 < drochaid> could someone point me in the direction of the mailing lists? I > can't see them on scotlug.org.uk > 21:40 < windy> Because it includes ALL membership . Instant technical problems by > all means come here but the future of SLUG should involve everyone > 21:41 < tam> !find scotlug mailing list > 21:41 < bagpuss_thecat> IRC is just another form of Instant Messaging, and we all > know how popular that has become recently. There's no stopping that popularity. I > agree, otoh, with keeping important stuff to the mailing list, where it is > publically archived and accessible > 21:41 < slugfind> scotlug mailing list: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL > PROTECTED]/msg00864.html > 21:41 < Neil_> windy: you see to be implying we're not involving people > 21:41 < Neil_> nobody is stopping anybody from coming here > 21:41 < windy> Time and other commitments do > 21:41 * tam has contributed people getting on irc > 21:41 < Neil_> and I'm sure we've posted this to the mailing list at least once > 21:42 < kenny> all the chosable medium are on the website. which can be accesses by > anyone looking for a linux help if done right. its the peoples choice what way they > want to mediate. > 21:42 < Neil_> windy: what can we do to help that? most people here have just as > serious time and commitments - stable server, irssi and screen. sorted. > 21:42 < kenny> right well, the same time and commitment stop people reading through > a digest and then replying windy. > 21:43 < windy> Then it's a lost cause. > 21:43 * tam refreshes squirrelmail > 21:43 < kenny> its not a liost cause. Why instead of wanting the mailing list to be > the main source work round the issue? > 21:43 < Neil_> windy: maybe you could start glug and ban all non-trival irc > 21:44 < kenny> I mean, turned the favoured medium into the tool taht is most > important and start from there, isntead of writting it off? > 21:44 * Neil_ notices windy has came to irc to get an immediate response to > something that appeared to be taking too long via the mailing list > 21:44 < tam> lol > 21:44 < bagpuss_thecat> Neil_: or maybe cos no-one else joined in on the mailing list > 21:45 < windy> You miss the point. I'm not against IRC or any other medium, but the > message and the medium are intertwined. > 21:45 < kenny> theyre not intertwined. > 21:45 < bagpuss_thecat> windy: am I right in thinking that public archival of _any_ > communications medium is a 'good thing' > 21:45 < Neil_> windy: I see your point > 21:45 < Neil_> windy: I just don't see a way forward > 21:45 < bagpuss_thecat> in that it would be a good thing for scotlug communications > 21:45 < windy> I came because I knew that chat would happen here that no one would > put into an email!!1 > 21:46 < bagpuss_thecat> true > 21:46 < kenny> exactly. which must tell you something! people spend more time on > here. > 21:46 < bagpuss_thecat> or, are just more vocal in here > 21:46 < windy> Some people do > 21:46 < kenny> exactly! either way bagpuss_thecat thats a good thing > 21:47 < windy> Some people have other things in their lifes too. > 21:47 < bagpuss_thecat> don't we all > 21:47 < kenny> now I can understand that maybe some people dont like to come here, > but there must be a happy medium then. because its fair asking the majoiryt to > hinder to the minority > 21:47 < windy> Then why cut them out of the loop > 21:47 < kenny> opps! its not fair!! sorry missed that word out there > 21:47 < kenny> were not cutting anyone out the lopp > 21:48 < kenny> thats wahat Im saying windy,. find a happy medium. > 21:48 < kenny> Record the chats on the webiste on a daily basis archive them later, > people wont be excluded that way,. > 21:48 < windy> But only if it's yours > 21:48 < kenny> waht do you mean only if its mine? > 21:49 < windy> It's the impression that ideas are fixed here and the scope for real > debate is minimal > 21:50 < kenny> not as far as I can see. I can see your point but your being a bit > stubborn you basically saying that everyone has to use the mailing list > 21:50 < bagpuss_thecat> windy: only cos no other sod on the mailing list seems to > care or respond > 21:50 < windy> We must resolve the future of SLUG with all possible speed > 21:50 < Neil_> and here is where the momentum is > 21:50 < kenny> well waht do you want as the future windy? Ive asked that twice and I > still dont know! > 21:50 < bagpuss_thecat> where do you want to go today? > 21:51 * bagpuss_thecat gets his coat > 21:51 < Neil_> :-) > 21:51 < drochaid> the toilet > 21:51 * bagpuss_thecat > core dumping > 21:51 < drochaid> :) > 21:51 < drochaid> don't forget to flush your permissions > 21:51 < windy> I don't think it has a future I am sad to say > 21:51 < kenny> but you have an idea of waht you want that to be - waht is it? > 21:52 -!- Linda [EMAIL PROTECTED] has joined #scotlug > 21:52 < Neil_> evenin' Linda > 21:52 < windy> I want there to be a formal meeting of talks and discussions 11 > months of the year > 21:52 < kenny> voice that idea. and then maybe it might give people a better idea of > what you are trying to achieve then people can give ideas on what to do > 21:53 < Neil_> windy: so do we > 21:53 < bagpuss_thecat> windy: ok, let's do it > 21:53 < Linda> I think we should have a vote on it :) > 21:53 < kenny> two heads are better than one,. but we all need to know waht you > looking for > 21:53 < windy> But I don't like IRC > 21:53 < Neil_> yes, we already have a priliminary agenda from mrben > 21:53 < Neil_> windy: lol > 21:53 < Neil_> windy: start liking it > 21:53 < kenny> a vote on waht tho? a comittee? what are they gonna do. itsstill nto > established what the aim is > 21:53 < bagpuss_thecat> mrben has already proposed a plan (on the list nonetheless), > let's go with it > 21:54 < windy> I think it's purile > 21:54 < Neil_> windy: mrben's plan? > 21:54 < Neil_> oh, irc :) > 21:54 < Linda> a list... yeah! let's have a list > 21:54 < windy> No IRC > 21:54 < Neil_> well, I'm not arguing with you > 21:54 < Neil_> but we're using it > 21:54 < Neil_> (at the moment) > 21:54 < bagpuss_thecat> windy: IRC isn't purile, the people are > 21:54 < kenny> being a chairman of a brass band for two years, I think I can safely > see you need a gola to attain too. Im still not getting what that goal is? is it not > about getting linus users helping each other to move forward? because if it is I see > that happening already > 21:54 * tam would prefer irc than a list > 21:54 < windy> We use lots of purile thinks including txting > 21:55 < seaLne> maybe you do I wouldn't generalise > 21:55 < kenny> windy - the only point to your debate so far is you dont like IRC. > 21:55 < Neil_> that is true > 21:56 < Neil_> and that you'd like discussions and talks > 21:56 < Linda> I like IRC :) and u kenny... u sexy boy! :P > 21:56 < Neil_> which is what mrben said > 21:56 < windy> It is the most powerful thinking technique that people us > 21:56 < Neil_> kenny: do you have stickers in phoneboxes or something? > 21:56 < kenny> I'll be the first one to hold my hand up and say yeah a committee is > a freat idea. but I need to know why it is first so I can say yah or nay on it > 21:57 < bagpuss_thecat> well, if that's the case then get thse damned people > mentioned on mrbens planned to actually reply to the plan and say 'yes, I'll do it' > 21:57 < bagpuss_thecat> so far all we have is a plan > 21:57 < kenny> i dunno neil_ I dunno even know who linda is! > 21:57 < bagpuss_thecat> why don't we get some bloody confirmations > 21:57 < Linda> remember me from the Cathouse Kenny! ;) > 21:57 < Linda> big boy :D > 21:57 < bagpuss_thecat> all chat, no fscking responses > 21:58 < kenny> nope! > 21:58 < Linda> and u tam... u big beast u! :P > 21:58 -!- mode/#scotlug [+o bagpuss_thecat] by ChanServ > 21:58 -!- Linda was kicked from #scotlug by bagpuss_thecat [wrong place, wrong time] > 21:58 -!- mode/#scotlug [-o bagpuss_thecat] by ChanServ > 21:58 < Neil_> hey, maybe I was next > 21:58 < seaLne> woolie? > 21:58 < kenny> lol > 21:59 < Neil_> possibly, got the 'wool' keyword > 21:59 < drochaid> Neil_, still want to be next? > 21:59 < seaLne> yeah, i was waiting to see how he behaved > 21:59 < Neil_> i was just gonna ask, who the hell told a girl we'd be in #scotlug :) > 21:59 < kenny> not me! > 21:59 < Neil_> (cause we were actually in the cathouse this weekend) > 21:59 < Neil_> :P > 21:59 < bagpuss_thecat> back on track all > 21:59 * kenny is thinking somone is playinga joke > 21:59 -!- Irssi: #scotlug: Total of 35 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 35 normal] > 21:59 < seaLne> kenny: not one of your chatup lines then? > 22:00 < kenny> nope! seaLne > 22:00 < Neil_> January - Bring your favourite Linux book/gadget; time to show off > all those cool things you got for Christmas, and inspire some geek envy. > 22:00 < Neil_> thats what mrben said > 22:00 < windy> We need to get as much of the membership together face to face > without alcohol and spend some time discussing the whole matter > 22:00 < Neil_> add to that 'we'll talk about going to this linux enterprise thing' > and thats the night sorted > 22:00 < Neil_> and we'll hopefully fit beer in > 22:00 * tam wonders who linda is > 22:01 < kenny> right but a comittee is not there to hold meets. its there to make > decisions for the beneifit of the group. a controling force that make all th emajor > decisions > 22:01 * kenny wonders too > 22:01 * Neil_ is deliberately turning a blind eye to this comittee nonsense for the > time being > 22:01 < tam> ah, woolie > 22:01 < seaLne> probably it was woolie > 22:01 < tam> yeah > 22:01 * Neil_ is taking linus' - let it happen approach > 22:01 < tam> but how would he have known > 22:01 < bagpuss_thecat> well, 'Linda' is still logged in to freenode, ask her/him > 22:01 -!- pinkj [EMAIL PROTECTED] has joined #scotlug > 22:02 < pinkj> yo > 22:02 < seaLne> boo > 22:02 < bagpuss_thecat> windy: can we agree on Januarys topic then? > 22:02 < pinkj> indeed - up for a bit of problem solving (read: suggestions)? > 22:02 < Neil_> pinkj: evenin' - fire away > 22:02 < bagpuss_thecat> geek toys, and a discussion on 'the future' > 22:02 < pinkj> yo > 22:02 < Neil_> bagpuss_thecat: and saturday > 22:03 < kenny> SealNe - my chat up lines normally consist me me standing in a line > waiting to go somewhere and I pull. > 22:03 < bagpuss_thecat> saturday? > 22:03 < Neil_> bagpuss_thecat: that linux enterprise thing is the saturday directly > following scotlug > 22:03 < pinkj> ok, figured out why my sparc classic isn't 'working' - it is, but it > doesn't like the switch it's connected to... works fine on the other switch, and > crossed to my laptop. I believe the problem is likely to be because the switch is > autonegotiating. > 22:03 < bagpuss_thecat> if required, yes > 22:03 < bagpuss_thecat> pinkj: mii-tool > 22:04 < kenny> im gonna put a post on the mailing list then. because none of my > questions have still been answered. > 22:05 < seaLne> pinkj: the 3com switch? if so couldn't you change it to not > autonegotiate? > 22:05 < pinkj> seaLne: nope, just a small 8 port one in Glasgow > 22:05 < seaLne> ah > 22:05 < bagpuss_thecat> Neil_: saturday event - just as visitors I assume? > 22:06 < Neil_> bagpuss_thecat: I'm not sure, well we won't have real time to do > anything else if we wait till thursday to discuss it, but if visitors then active > "hey we're scotlug" visitors > 22:06 < pinkj> I should of said autosensing btw, although I think you all know what > I mean > 22:07 * Neil_ is really thirsty and my choices are beer and water > 22:07 < seaLne> same diff :) > 22:07 < Neil_> ordinarily that wouldn't be a contest, but theres only one beer > 22:07 < seaLne> watery beer? > 22:07 < Neil_> hehe > 22:07 < pinkj> yes, water it down > 22:07 < kenny> Neil_ you live 5 minutes away from the shop > 22:07 < pinkj> it'll last longer > 22:07 < Neil_> kenny: i just feel like drinking the second the off licenses shut > 22:07 -!- DjMagra [EMAIL PROTECTED] has joined #scotlug > 22:07 < kenny> typical > 22:08 < bagpuss_thecat> Neil_: I'll post to the list > 22:08 < Neil_> bagpuss_thecat: ooh, your are brave > 22:08 < Neil_> s/your/you/ > 22:08 < pinkj> seaLne: not quite: autonegotiating is where your switch / hub > automagically figures out whether or not you're talking at 10 or 100 Mbps. > Autosensing is where it figures out if you're using a cross over cable or not and > adjusts its port accordingly > 22:08 < kenny> another thing - what info should be put on the list? > 22:08 < Neil_> kenny: what do you mean? > 22:09 < kenny> well. Its been suggested that the mailing list be used as the main > medium. what have we to put on the list? problems? chats? what we did at the > weekend? what software we have just installed? > 22:09 -!- TMW2N [EMAIL PROTECTED] has joined #scotlug > 22:09 < TMW2N> lo all > 22:09 < kenny> hi TMW2N > 22:09 * seaLne swears lots at his mailserver > 22:11 < seaLne> it is upset about a filserver being rebooted earlier and can't see > the nfs mounts and it is half rebooted but is probably stuck trying to unmount the > nfs shares :( > 22:11 < kenny> right. I jsut need to work out how to send a mail to the mailing > list. hmm...... > 22:11 < bagpuss_thecat> kenny: if you're signed up, just send a mail to > 22:11 < bagpuss_thecat> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 22:11 < bagpuss_thecat> damned hidden tabes > 22:12 < pinkj> my options are kinda limited to crossing it into a 'host' machine > that bridges (I don't want to divide my IP subnet for just 1 machine) or > alternatively, getting a long cable to attach it to the hub, and swapping whatever > came out the hub into the switch > 22:12 < bagpuss_thecat> -e > 22:12 < seaLne> long cable sounds easiest > 22:12 < pinkj> ok will do that. thanks > 22:12 < bagpuss_thecat> pinkj: is the link light coming on? > 22:13 -!- pinkj [EMAIL PROTECTED] has left #scotlug [] > 22:13 < bagpuss_thecat> muppet > 22:13 * TMW2N has total deja vu > 22:13 < TMW2N> i'm sure i have read this conversation before, a few months ago > 22:13 < seaLne> its crazy the pile of machines he has next to his bed in glasgow > 22:15 < seaLne> Neil_: i might have an indy spare would you be interested if i did? > 22:16 < Neil_> gn > 22:16 < Neil_> oops > 22:16 < Neil_> seaLne: thanks seaLne but my nice big sun monitor died a while back - > thanks though > 22:16 < bagpuss_thecat> ooh, indy > 22:16 * Neil_ is trying to cut back (a little) > 22:16 < bagpuss_thecat> as in, Indigo? > 22:17 < seaLne> as in sgi indy > 22:17 < seaLne> indigo is a different model > 22:17 < bagpuss_thecat> what's it like compared to an SS2, performance wise? > 22:17 < seaLne> faster > 22:17 < bagpuss_thecat> much? > 22:17 < bagpuss_thecat> or just a teeensy weeensy bit? :-p > 22:18 * thinker gets home > 22:18 < seaLne> i think 133 - 150MHz (x non x86 arch multiplier) > 22:18 < bagpuss_thecat> oooh > 22:19 < bagpuss_thecat> still on offer to a good home? > 22:19 < seaLne> not sure what all i'm getting > 22:19 < seaLne> yeah > 22:19 < bagpuss_thecat> :-p > 22:20 < windy> I no longer care. 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