Hi,

I'd better admit a vested interest before i write a reply - i work for tmobile, but i'll try not to favour any particular network unfairly.

The blackberry's are good (read: above average) little devices, batteries last a good wee while, pretty solid (i've dropped mine loads of times with no adverse effects). These devices are designed for right handed people though, so if like me your left handed, you'll just drop it all the time if you attempt one handed operation. The actual blackberry service is provided by the manufacturer of the device, Research in Motion, this means the service from each of the vendors is pretty much the same, as its RIM thats really the service provider, the only thing to distinguish networks selling these is cost, model of blackberry available, network coverage, everything else to do with the service is the same across all uk networks.

Vodafone are offering the new blackberry "charm" devices, well that was the codename for them, dont know if thats the name they've been released under? T-Mobile wont be releasing these for a few weeks yet, we've got them with the trialists just now though. These are basically just blackberrys but nicer, with a proper colour screen and bluetooth etc built in. Generally much more usable, but moving away from the original two way pager idea.

I've also got one of the p900s, great little computers, i mean phones. Very versatile, only bad thing is you cant really put it in your pocket, lest the sensitive touch screen be destroyed by your keys/spare change scraping it. You do get a rather naff looking pouch to put it in which will attach to your belt, so you can look somewhat like a high tech batman. Please note you will not need a sign on your back with an arrow pointing to the device saying "steal me, easy target", if you choose the batman esque look, as the device/belt clip stick out that much any common thief can see the opportunity.

The p910 is just a general tidy up of the p900, but it will have support for the blackberry instant email service available soon. Some have even suggested it will fully support the blackberry service, i.e. it will allow wireless calendar syncronisation between your exhange/domino server and it. The down side if this is true will be that you will lose the ability to edit word/excel documents etc as the blackberry service only allows read access to this type of document (actually it converts the word file into a proprietary, patent encumbered binary-xml format before spewing it over the air), whereas the p900/p910 is capable of opening word/excel files natively and editing them then emailing them back to someone.

The new MDA III has just been launched on tmobile, these are quite good too, basically pocket pc 2003 + ipaq 6310 (in a different case) + phone all in one package. Again these will have built in blackberry support soon too.

Seen as this is a linux list - just to bring this back on topic here is a status of the linux support for each of the above devices: -

* Blackberry:
I have written a driver - currently in alpha quality, which allows for a messy way to get the device to spew the address book out to a CSV file. This driver is not currently released as my employer are dragging their heels (still!) over allowing me to open source it. (read: if you dont tell anyone you can have a copy). Other than that there is no support i know of for these devices under linux.


* p900/p910 - works fine as long as you use bluetooth or IrDA, if you want to use the cradle - good luck, but you'll need a p900 cradle as the cradle for the early p800 and the new p910 are not supported. Even with the right cradle, there's not much you can do, and generally i find the bluetooth solution alot better. There are howtos for hooking this up to ximian evolution in much the same way the device supports being hooked up to outlook/notes. File transfers work fine as well.

* MDA III - limited support using the ipaq kernel module (which incidentally i used as a starting point for my blackberry driver), for synchronisation at least. But you can get this device to talk syncML so sync works the same way as the p900 above. File transfers work fine. With wireless networking built in there are a few other options are well so you wont be stuck.

Damn that was a bit long. Hope it helps though!

Craig

Kyle Gordon wrote:

On Monday 15 November 2004 12:16, Daragh Mc Grath wrote:


Hi Guys,

A pal of mine in Glasgow is looking at getting a two way pager, more for
personal use than IT usage, but that's by the by! Who are the providers
over there and what sort of costs are involved? Any stores / websites
you could point me toward?



Does it have to be using the pager/sms system? There's a few companies out there offering Blackberry devices, and also the SonyEricsson P900/P910 apparently has an improved IMAP client these days, which you can use over gprs.


Kyle

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