hello and good evening 

new to scrapy and to this list. 


i have seen the python scraper - described here: 

http://blog.ouseful.info/2010/11/03/accessing-government-education-data-in-scraperwiki-via-the-edubaseeducation-datastore-api/

well this is very interesting. I am not a programmer - and therefore some 
of the techniques and ideas of your scraper are too complicated to me. 

But it seems to be the tool of choice: i need a scraper that feteches all 
the data of south amerian schools - eg. via wget of planet-files of 
openstreetmap. 
i am a teacher - and i work on a little project in the field of education  
so to describe my goals - i want to say some words and thoughts regarding 
the philantropic impact

i think that we should use openstreetmap to:

- improve the lives of poor children and youth by providing basic 
necessities, critical
benefits and services, programs that support long-term development and 
opportunities that prepare them for success.

we should take this into account to identify the places where schools and 
education programms need help.,

i want to use openstreetmap to identify schools with some of the following 
needs;

- do they need comprehensive youth programs?
- such that are designed to position youth for employment and help them 
become self-reliant adults and contributing members of their communities
- this should be accomplished by focusing on the following areas.

Education;:The surest path out of poverty is education. Unfortunately, 
education is sometimes considered a luxury by impoverished
families,

- i think that we should support basic education by providing benefits such 
as school supplies, fees and uniforms.
- Additionally, we should help qualified youth complete secondary  school 
and attend vocational training, colleges and universities


so there fore i love to see some efforts in the osm-community.


a scraper  for all south american schools that gives back the data in a 
mysql db would be great. 
If i would have one scraper-code then the diffs and updates would be quite 
simple - i think?


i love to hear from you

best whishes
martin

btw.  at the moment i try to do different requests- all with  focus on 
schools; if you whish to help me - i would be happy
motto: We are driven by the belief that, collectively, we can solve even 
the most difficult problems our country is facing.


Some ideas regarding the aimed goals: i want  to store the results in a 
mysql-db
note: it is only necessary to have straightforward from files that - no 
backimport of data to OSM or to whole maps. My interest lies in the data of 
the schools like 
Name, Adress, Country, Town and postal code, Website etc. etx.  - That are 
only textual information. 

Probably we can do this with a mysql-Db - or do we need a PostgreSQL? 

again: i want to gather data from .o5m & pbf file - several ways are 
possible: what is wanted: i look for schools - with all of the following 
tags: 
all i want is to get POI out of the OSM-File - and to hold them on a dayly 
updated version: in other words - 
i want to keep them updqated - day by day. Well i guess that i can do that 
with osmfilter and osmconvert - but there are probably better ways to do 
it: 
A python-scraper would be great. 

- PostGis as a solution for getting a database populated by osm2pgsql or 
osmconvert / -filter to create csv-sheets: probably PostGIS is tooo big and 
the learing curve is to steep; Note;: i only want to have POIS from the 
OSM-File. Nothing more.
- MySQL seems to be better for what i am having in mind

Technologically and methodolocically i am inspired by Martijn van Exel 
approach to keep an overview on the US-bridges note;: he looks for the 
bridges in the US ( 
http://oegeo.wordpress.com/2012/03/06/a-self-updating-openstreetmap-database-of-us-bridges-a-step-by-step-guide/
 
) 

But - Martijn wanted to have the map-data - i only need the textual data - 
that means that the database should not be the problem. 


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