Am Montag, 15. M?rz 2010 17:10:33 schrieb Louis Desjardins: > 2010/3/15 a.l.e <ale.comp_06 at xox.ch> > > > salut louis, > > Salut Ale ! > > > just try to insert that image > > > >>>> http://www.openclipart.org/people/axcesar/axcesar_Rosa.svg > >>>> > >>>> and tell me if you're interested in seeing all those FromSVG#062a00 to > >>> > >>> show > >>> > >>>> up in your color list. > >> > >> How I look at this is if you have imported that image, you need those > >> colors. I am not sure that filtering them out will be the way to go. We > >> need > >> an extra step in between or maybe this is what you had in mind when you > >> say > >> "filter them out"? > > > > yes, those colors are needed to print and display the image. > > but if i import 5 roses in 5 different colors, the palette will be > > polluted by dozens of colors which -- on the one side -- can't be removed > > but -- on the other side -- i will never want to use in my document > > outside of that imported figure (in some case i will use one of those > > colors). > > > > what i want is an option not to see them, if i wish so. > > Understand. > > > yesterday, i had a few discussions about this feature request and i think > > that the way to go is to flag the colors, when they are automatically > > created. > > > > colors which have that flag can be hidden in the same way we currently > > hide unused colors. > > Hiding them to have a workable color palette is one thing. > > > as soon as you apply a color to a shape or frame in the document the flag > > is removed from that single color. > > Again, this sounds fine. > > But there is a big but ! At the same time we need to acknowledge that we?re > going to make a decision on those colors coming from an imported document. > First, it?s a good thing that we can have those colors at hand. The next > step is to decide how these colors will be used. > > If we cannot implement a "map color option" at the time being, maybe we > could have a dialog showing up asking what to do with those colors : mark > them as process colors or mark them as spot. Since they can be one or > another, mutually exclusive choice, I guess this could be a sane way to > take care of the issue. Then, pursuing in your view, the user have to > choice to see those colors or not in the list (but they do belong to the > document once they are imported). > > The Color dialog: > [ ] Remove Unused (already present in the dialog) > [ ] Don?t list Imported (would be added underneath Removed Unused) > Tooltips: > "Remove Unused": tooltip as it is. > "Don?t list Imported": tooltip: (Un)checking this option (un)displays the > colors that have been created into Scribus upon the importation of an image > file. > Or something like that! > > The warning dialog: > [ ] Imported colors are CMYK > [ ] Imported colors are spot > Tooltip: The colors used in the imported file will be converted to either > spot or CMYK. You will be able to change those color settings afterwards. > The default value is CMYK and should be changed only if you know what you > are doing. > > > One sure thing is if there are more than a few colors, > > > >> those colors will need to be either set to process colors or to be > >> mapped to > >> fewer spot colors in order to make that usable. > > I see that a "Change color" dialog now exists. I haven?t had the time to > play with it but this is something most similar to what I have in mind. > > In no way will a user want > > >> to work with dozens of colors and set them as spot colors, unless the > >> job is > >> sent to a color printer (machine) that will convert them on the fly as > >> the job is processed and printed. If this is meant to be used this on an > >> offset > >> press, then plates come into play and the number of colors will become > >> critical plate-wise and cost-wise. We need a way to handle this. > > > > very interesting point. no idea how scribus (or inkscape) could handle > > this, but that would also be a very neat future (i guess more difficult > > to implement than what i am proposing...) > > > > > > ciao > > a.l.e > > > > Au revoir ! > > Louis
Hi all, Please feel free to add suggestions here: http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=8944 Cheers, Christoph
