Hi Thom By using the old operating system you are exposing your data to whatever vulnerabilities it has (unless you never share data and don't connect to the Internet), the older it is, the less support it has. Apple offers free upgrades, so why not upgrade? Information security is incredibly important and it has to be a critical consideration for us.
Technically, we need to continue to use newer supporting libraries to add functionality. Eg without moving to Qt 5.4, we cannot even consider high DPI support which is more and more required with new hardware. Qt is a toolkit for developing applications that Scribus is based on. Also, it is not possible to compare the resources of Adobe to us. We have 2-3 primary people developing Scribus, all on a part time best effort basis and many contributors. We do not have the ability to continue to develop for every platform version. However I do think that 4-5 of the past versions is quite a lot. Thanks Craig > On 12 Feb 2016, at 13:27, Thom <div at ecliptic.ch> wrote: > > > Hello Craig > > Well, this leads to some principle questions. Why would I even start using > Scribus frequently if actual versions are not running anymore on my system > within 4 years. I mean that is what Apple and Adobe are doing intentionally > and the main reason to get away from them. Now if Opensource software does > the same, there really is no reason anymore to use it. > > Also you developers think too much technical. Users of your software are > designers like me. I am not interested in Building a software or read about > why you limit your development on the availability of certain libraries or > whatever Qt is (I read QuickTime). If you ever want to be serious in > developing a tool that is actually used by designers, you have to make it > easy to get and use and make it durable. Otherwise it is no alternative to > Adobe or Quark and no help to GNU/Linux because as long as there is no > comparable tool available, someone like me is not able to switch over to > GNU/Linux. Thats why I am still on Apple, but I refuse to go along with Apple > forcing me to always have the most actual OS. 10.6.8 is a perfectly fine OS. > There has been no necessary development since, except that artificial forcing > anyone to create software that only runs on the newest OS for absolutely no > reason. > > Well, just my thought here. > > Regards > Thom > > > > > >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2016 13:19:46 +0100 >> From: Thom <div at ecliptic.ch> >> To: scribus at lists.scribus.net >> Subject: Re: [scribus] scribus for Mac 10.5 / 10.6 >> Message-ID: <1CF98613-6969-45D6-93F5-5E3E0D580222 at ecliptic.ch> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> Hi Martin >> >> Thanks. I found an Xcode version on the OS X install CD. Not sure if it was >> even needed. Xcode was not mentioned on the install >> guidehttp://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/Scribus_and_Homebrew_Cask >> >> However, it did not work. >> >> I went on after Xcode install (4 GB installation just to install Scribus, a >> heck of a disproportionate effort, as is the whole procedure) >> >> I installed Cask. Then in terminal it asked to install Ruby, which I did: >> "brew install ruby", then "brew cask install scribus", it went again asking >> to install Ruby, which I did again and again, "brew cask install scribus" >> never works. So I am stuck again. >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2016 13:19:53 +0100 >> From: Craig Bradney <cbradney at scribus.info> >> To: Scribus User Mailing List <scribus at lists.scribus.net> >> Subject: Re: [scribus] scribus for Mac 10.5 / 10.6 >> Message-ID: <858EDFE0-D291-4ACD-BEA6-14ED6426B033 at scribus.info> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> Sorry, we don't support the older versions anymore. If you can get it to >> build, then great. There are issues on 10.5/10.6 with Qt that mean you need >> to use the Carbon version. >> >> We will soon be setting Qt5.4 as the minimum Qt version too for Scribus >> after 1.5.1 is released. >> >> Craig >> >>>> On 11 Feb 2016, at 12:44, Martin Costabel <costabel at wanadoo.fr> wrote: >>>> >>>> On 11/02/16 11:30, Thom wrote: >>>> Hello Scribus Team >>>> I dont see how to write just to the ones who prepare the Scribus versions >>>> for different systems. The only way I found to give Input is this list, so >>>> I send it here. >>>> >>>> This ist just to let you guys know:It is not possible to install the early >>>> Mac OSX version (before 10.8). I am on Mac OS X 10.6.8. It says for this >>>> system (from 10.5) I have to install Homebrew Cask from Terminal. Which I >>>> did. Then in terminal it says next step: Install Xcode: >>>> https://developer.apple.com/xcode >>>> >>>> Well, thats the problem there, because when I try to do that, the link >>>> takes me to the AppStore, and trying to download it says I can't bacause X >>>> Code is for 10.10.5 or newer. >>> >>> There are older Xcode versions available at >>> <https://developer.apple.com/downloads/> >>> >>> -- >>> Martin >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Scribus Mailing List: scribus at lists.scribus.net >>> Edit your options or unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.scribus.net/mailman/listinfo/scribus >>> See also: >>> http://wiki.scribus.net >>> http://forums.scribus.net >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2016 14:52:26 +0100 >> From: ale rimoldi <ale.comp_06 at xox.ch> >> To: Scribus User Mailing List <scribus at lists.scribus.net> >> Subject: Re: [scribus] scribus for Mac 10.5 / 10.6 >> Message-ID: <56BC921A.80205 at xox.ch> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed >> >> hoi thom >> >> if i understood correctly your issue, you should be able to download a >> scribus 1.4.5 that does work on os x 10.5 : >> >> http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/Download >> >> if you get the .pgk file, you won't need any brew, xcode & co. ... >> >> hth >> a.l.e >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> scribus mailing list >> scribus at lists.scribus.net >> http://lists.scribus.net/mailman/listinfo/scribus >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of scribus Digest, Vol 95, Issue 10 >> *************************************** > > > ___ > Scribus Mailing List: scribus at lists.scribus.net > Edit your options or unsubscribe: > http://lists.scribus.net/mailman/listinfo/scribus > See also: > http://wiki.scribus.net > http://forums.scribus.net
