Tom,

Maybe it is just me but I was HOPING they meant "Since the early 2000's" 
(smile).

Doug

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Subject: Re: FW: [nvda] Project Contact Lenses: a community initiative proposal 
to invite more people to NVDA ecosystem

Where does the ignorance come from?
"In the early 2000's, Window-Eyes was considered a good alternative  to JAWS 
for Windows when it came to using Microsoft Windows with screen readers."
Then how has Window-Eyes been just as good if not better than JAWS or NVDA for 
me and thousands of others for the last 17 years, and still is?
What a charming invitation.
Tom


On 5/30/2017 6:41 PM, Dennis Long via Scripting wrote:
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> From: n...@nvda.groups.io [mailto:n...@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of 
> Joseph Lee
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 9:19 PM
> To: n...@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] Project Contact Lenses: a community initiative 
> proposal to invite more people to NVDA ecosystem
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>
>
> Dear NVDA community,
>
>
>
> First, a huge thanks to NV Access and other presenters at NVDACon 
> 2017, as well as those who organized and participated in this event. 
> As the founder of NVDACon, I'm proud of what Derek Riemer and his 
> friends have accomplished in organizing this successful gathering. To 
> organizers of the 2018 gathering, I wish you the best of luck.
>
>
>
> To the matter at hand:
>
>
>
> Many of you may have heard about the end of sales for Window-Eyes 
> screen reader. In the early 2000's, Window-Eyes was considered a good 
> alternative to JAWS for Windows when it came to using Microsoft 
> Windows with screen readers. With the acquisition of GW Micro by AI 
> Squared, which in turn was acquired by VFO last year, many analysts 
> predicted the end of life for this screen reader, which occurred on May 15, 
> 2017.
>
>
>
> This news has huge implications for the global NVDA community, as well 
> as opening opportunities for us. As many Window-Eyes users are 
> eligible to upgrade to JAWS 18, some would choose to switch to NVDA. 
> At the moment several individuals are producing tutorials aimed at 
> helping Window-Eyes users transition to NVDA with ease. But users 
> aren't the only members of the Window-Eyes community: with the end of 
> sales for Window-Eyes, many scripts (or apps) for Window-Eyes became 
> unsupported, and it won't be matter of time before they become part of 
> history.
>
>
>
> In hopes of inviting Window-Eyes users and developers to join the NVDA 
> ecosystem (provided they are willing), I'd like to propose a 
> community-wide initiative under the umbrella of Project Contact 
> Lenses. Although this project may take different forms, the overall 
> aim is to educate Window-Eyes community that NVDA is a viable option 
> for many people, and a chance for writers of Window-Eyes apps to port 
> their code to the add-ons infrastructure. Other activities may include 
> equipping some Window-Eyes app developers to contribute code to NVDA 
> Core, producing promotional materials, organizing online seminars and 
> so on. Although the bulk of this project is aimed at Window-Eyes 
> users, the ultimate goal is to embrace users of other screen readers to taste 
> NVDA.
>
>
>
> Some of the activities I plan to do include:
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>
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> *     An online seminar or an intensive lab on creating add-ons and/or
> getting started with contributing code to NVDA Core.
> *     Talking to Window-Eyes app writers about possibility of
> open-sourcing their code and helping them port apps to the add-ons 
> infrastructure.
>
>
>
> Some of the things the global community can do include:
>
>
>
> *     Producing transition materials.
> *     Contacting Window-Eyes distributors in your local community and
> inviting them to try NVDA.
> *     Contacting script writers regarding apps and proposing add-ons.
> *     Holding seminars aimed at users of other screen readers 9mostly
> Window-Eyes users) on how to master various NVDA concepts such as 
> object navigation, browse mode and others.
>
>
>
> As for the duration of this initiative, I don't know, but I expect 
> this to be at least several months or more.
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> Comments are appreciated.
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> Cheers,
>
> Joseph
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