Just a minute ... what do you mean by "programmer?"

This thing is EPROM based, hence, doesn't provide programming capability for 
your single-chipper.  In fact, mine, at least, uses a PLCC-44 8031.  If you 
replace that with a PLCC-based 805x, it will still have its /EA signal 
grounded, which turns it into an 8031.  If you get out your XACTO knife and 
a pullup resistor, you can modify it to use internal program memory, but I'd 
read the find print before endeavoring to do any of that.

As I said, I use a modified SPLD, one of two on the board, which allows me 
to substitute a DS1230Y for the program-memory EPROM, and use that as 
read-write memory.  That way I can use a resident debug monitor that allows 
me to patch the code in the DS1230Y if that's what I want to do, or to run a 
trace, or set breakpoints.  Their monitor doesn't allow that, since it 
assumes EPROM contains the code space.

As I said ... read the fine print.  Look at the schematic diagram.  Read the 
configuration options in the doc files.  It is a remarkably good buy, but 
you should go in with your eyes open.  Even a mere $40 is too much to spend 
if you don't know what you're getting.  You'll be disappointed if you don't 
understand what it is and can do.  I find it a very useful board, but it 
doesn't support internal code usage without some surgical modification, 
AFAIK.

regards,

Richard Erlacher

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> Thanks Richard!
>
> That NMIY-0031 seems like an awesome deal for a complete 8051 environment 
> with everything. Documentation, software, programmer, monitor; the works.
>
> -Warren
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Richard Erlacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Thursday, January 4, 2007 12:40:18 PM GMT-0600 US/Central
> Subject: Re: [Sdcc-user] Cheap Used Devel Board
>
> Hi!
>
> I'd recommend you visit 8052.com and look around, and maybe ask some
> questions there.  Note that the "chat" forum is NOT a real-time chat
> environment as has become popular in recent years.  One word of caution 
> ...
> do NOT use SMS-style abbreviations there, but, rather take the extra few
> milliseconds to type out the words in your questions.  In fact, read ALL 
> the
> instructions at the beginning of your session before you attempt to post
> anything, and be sure to search thoroughly before posting what may well be 
> a
> repeatedly-answered question.
>
> There are lots of opinions offerred there, including mine, and I suggest 
> you
> take all of them with the proverbial "grain of salt."
>
> One relatively cheap board that gets little mention these days, is the
> NMIY-0031, which costs about $39.00 US.  I've used this from time to time
> without being disappointed.  Just search for NMIY-0031 on GOOGLE, and 
> you'll
> find it.  Read the fine print, though.  This one has sockets for external
> memory, but will execute internal code if you "un-ground" the /EA signal,
> which you have to do surgically.  I've been using one with a modified GAL
> that allows me to use a battery-backed RAM in place of a PROM.  That's 
> very
> convenient for many things.
>
> regards,
>
> Richard Erlacher
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 10:56 AM
> Subject: [Sdcc-user] Cheap Used Devel Board
>
>
>>
>> I bought an 8051 (89C2051) development board off of ebay a couple of 
>> weeks
>> ago, and I got burned pretty bad. The onboard 8051 has no bootloader and
>> has no method of writing the eeprom without building a circuit just to 
>> add
>> software! I spent the shipping time learning about the 8051 and am very
>> intrigued. I'd like to continue playing with the chip, but I'm kind of
>> stuck with emulators for now.
>>
>> Anyways, does anyone have any unused 8051-based development boards they
>> can part with for cheap? I'd like something with at least 4k of flash, 
>> and
>> either an ISP builtin or at least a bootloader so I can copy software.
>>
>> -Warren
>>
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