If anyone is intersested if you have real video or audio or what not there is a live performance of sunny day real estate at www.jamtv.com i think is the address--its from last year at the metro in chicago--they opened up with in circles and thats as far as i got because it got congested and i get sick of waiting for it to buffer--some of you might have better luck--the show is like an hour and 15 minutes so be willing to sit and watch--also they have the two videos for seven and in circles as well that im sure most of us have seen--thats it RYan