i dont see how you can't like it... rotfq i think it was better, in my 
opinion, than all sunny day albums.  its puts me in the best mellow mood 
possible, and i listen to it in my car all the time... that and lp2 are the 
best... his solo work amazes me.  i find it really funny that it cost sub pop 
an arm and a leg for the orchestra, does anybody else?      haha
    another question:  it was to my understanding that joe was a permantant 
member of the band (and yes, im aware he isn't now, or at least not recording 
with them...)  so then why was he on the "offical" member page?  doesn't 
brian get the info directly from the band?  
        
                    keith

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