"I dont like Korn, I really hate Limp Bizkit, and like Deftones. But anything they put out, including Staind, Creed, and the likes of every terrible band, are putting out music that is more real, emotional, and worthwhile than the last SDRE. matt" er....no. TRT has much more layers, musical innovation, and meaning than anyhting ive ever heard from any of those bands. im sorry that you dont like TRT, but sunny day evolved. and very few bands do that. all of those bands you've mentioned are static. they do the same thing, over, and over again. and its not even their thing. with bands like staind and creed, sometimes it is eaisy to think that the music means something. you say, hey, this guy has an impotrant, strained voice. must be important. sorry guy. no. while TRT is invariably last amoung the sunny day albulms, for me (not counting live), i'd still put it in the top five releases of 2000, after radiohead and cursive. creed i will say tries. so i respect them, at least a little. but fuck the rest. fuck them. staind? try this one on: "I am fucked up because you are" wow. hommie has something to say. im fucking impressed. all that music is the pop culture response to itself, attempting to make something more ! im! portant because they can see tha t people want something more, but since it is manufactured by the media, its two dimensional. the rising tide is fucking innovation. the only, i repeat, only band that ive EVER heard that has evolved more as a band is radiohead. thats the only one. i think that evolution, as a band, is the most respectable thing. if everyone stayed the same, we'd have nothing. therefore you have to respect the people that do something new. sunny day has always delivered. every band you mentioned has not. i could take bands, no, individual songs, and combine them to create these little pop culture ugly ducklings. but none, NONE of them is greater than the sum of their influences. i cannot respet that.