I absolutely agree we should all want to learn about as many new technologies as possible and watch for trends in the market. I don't think I'm pushing back against your conclusions because I'm a Rubyist, more considering them as a developer and deciding I don't agree with them.
It felt like your original commentary was on the alarmist side. I know a lot of people read these messages, see comments by folks like you that are respected in the community, and make sometimes rash assumptions about them. I totally think these are the kinds of questions we have to ask our selves, and I appreciate this kind of rational discussion. The answer to your original question "Could it really be that they've been looking this long and found no one?" is pretty clearly been answer "nope", and any thing based on that false assumption doesn't seem super relevant to me. Rob — Sent from Mailbox On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Jonathan Christensen <mr.j...@gmail.com> wrote: > This article shows a downward trend in ruby and an upward trend in JS from > 2012 - 2014. http://adambard.com/blog/top-github-languages-2014/ > I also just looked at some early 2015 numbers and it loooks like ruby has > dropped yet further to number 6. > http://www.sitepoint.com/whats-best-programming-language-learn-2015/ > On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 11:08 AM, Rob Kaufman <rgkauf...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi Jon, >> >> I think blaming the industry in a situation like that is a bad move. >> Yes, competition for Rails is high (though that's a reason to work there, >> not a reason to leave), but if you're really not finding talent at all, >> there is almost certainly another reason. It could be trying to pay too >> low for too senior a position, not being willing to work with a >> consultancies, bad recruitment practices, lack of flexibility or a host of >> other possible problems. It's always worth looking at yourself first. I'm >> not saying any of those things are true of this Taylor Made position. >> Could just be that they're growing the project fast by twos as they can. >> >> Its also worth noting that the large the company (generally) the longer >> the on boarding and hiring process takes. >> >> Rob >> >> >> >> — >> Sent from Mailbox <https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox> >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Jonathan Christensen <mr.j...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> This taylor made project has to be way off the rails (no pun intended). >>> I've been seeing recruiter ads for it for several months. Could it really >>> be that they've been looking this long and found no one? >>> >>> If that is the case it's an interesting issue. I would not want to be a >>> company with pockets as deep as taylor made unable to find developers to >>> work on a critical project. And if there aren't enough ruby developers out >>> there to staff projects, I'd start looking at other technologies for future >>> projects. This is something I'm constantly concerned about since I run a >>> consulting company and it's so hard to decide whether to build or sunset >>> the rails piece of our practice. >>> >>> --Jon >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Jennifer Olson < >>> jennifermarqueestaff...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> We are currently looking for 2 Ruby/Rails developers for one of the >>>> best companies in North County San Diego. >>>> >>>> It's a big project with a very aggressive timeline, so I need >>>> individuals who can ramp up and start developing quickly. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Must Have’s / Expert Level with: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> · Ruby/Rails w/ large scale projects >>>> >>>> · Test Driven Development >>>> >>>> · Git/Github >>>> >>>> · Large enterprise experience desired, but a startup mentality >>>> required >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Desired / Experience with : >>>> >>>> · Javascript, Json experience >>>> >>>> · Initiative in Problem-solving and offering solutions to >>>> server-side production issues >>>> >>>> · Slack collaboration website desired >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> You can work onsite, remote or both as long as you're productive and >>>> able to collaborate over Slack. >>>> >>>> >>>> Pay on this project is open as we need the right people in these seats. >>>> This is an already in progress project and needs you as of yesterday- so be >>>> ready for a fast turnaround on the interview process! >>>> >>>> Initially, this is a short-term project of 2-4 months, but if you're >>>> able to deliver, it'll be a much longer engagement. >>>> >>>> Please connect with me ASAP if you are looking for a project to dig into! >>>> >>>> 619-683-2836 ext 304 >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheers! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> SD Ruby mailing list >>>> sdruby@googlegroups.com >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sdruby >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "SD Ruby" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to sdruby+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> SD Ruby mailing list >>> sdruby@googlegroups.com >>> http://groups.google.com/group/sdruby >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "SD Ruby" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to sdruby+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> -- >> -- >> SD Ruby mailing list >> sdruby@googlegroups.com >> http://groups.google.com/group/sdruby >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "SD Ruby" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to sdruby+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > -- > SD Ruby mailing list > sdruby@googlegroups.com > http://groups.google.com/group/sdruby > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "SD > Ruby" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to sdruby+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- SD Ruby mailing list sdruby@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/sdruby --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "SD Ruby" group. 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