I have a different concern than Ian: I think that a mailing list (which is
how I interact with Google Groups) is a better format than group chat.

As it stands, I am happy to read a few emails a day, schedule permitting.
It's a nice break from other work.

Chat, though is a different matter. It's an active interruption into what
you are doing and a demand for your attention. Of course, I can turn
notifications off, but when posting to a chat room, the expectations are
much different than when sending an email, regarding response time. If I am
not going to pay attention to the notifications and read about them later,
how is this different than reading email? I can actually see it being worse
for me: If there was an interesting topic that I want to contribute to a
few days later (much like this post), it's fine on a mailing list, but I
think it would be awkward on a group chat.

In my experience, whenever I have tried to use the IRC channels for open
source projects, I get no response or engagement at all. The channel is
filled with people, who are doing other things and don't pay attention to
it at all. The one time I had success, was when I pinged a particular
developer by name directly and caught his attention, but felt somewhat
awkward because of the demands I was putting on his attention.

Another benefit I see with mailing lists is that conversations are nicely
threaded into topics.

I don't really have an objection with setting up group chat. I just don't
think I would participate in it.

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On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 9:37 PM, Ian Young <[email protected]> wrote:

> +0 from me. Which is to say, I certainly love Slack as a business tool and
> am not necessarily opposed to the idea of an SDRuby Slack channel, but it's
> something that should be done with intention and not on a whim. Slack's
> business model is decidedly awkward for OSS communities
> <https://medium.com/@jedwatson/slack-and-oss-communities-130489aae8#.m479igi2m>,
> and since Slack is essentially a competitor to the established and open
> protocol of IRC
> <http://thenextweb.com/insider/2015/03/24/slack-is-quietly-unintentionally-killing-irc/>,
> I would like us to have a solid justification for why it's better to open a
> Slack channel than to establish an IRC channel and link to a user-friendly
> IRC web client. I know San Diego JS has been grappling with this question,
> so if there's interest I could probably ping them to find out if they've
> landed on a resolution and what led them to it.
>
> Also, food for thought: San Diego JS' IRC channel is basically a ghost
> town, and last I checked their Slack channel was similarly quiet, despite
> their user base being substantially larger than ours. It's possible an
> SDRuby chat room would suffer the same irrelevant fate—we're a wonderful
> community but a small one, and not everyone idles on chat all day. Again,
> I'm not opposed to the idea, but before launching I'd like to see a plan
> for how we plan to encourage enough participation to reach a critical mass
> of interesting-ness.
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 31, 2016, at 06:34 PM, Alex Egg wrote:
>
> +1 for setting this up
>
> On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 3:29 PM James Hall <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> I was wondering if you guys have a slack setup?
>
> -James
>
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