DIS: Re: BUS: 'Cause I deserve it

2015-05-31 Thread omd
On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 8:33 PM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote:
 I object because there is a proposal pending to award champion and e
 shouldn't get both

The proposal is presently unlikely to pass.  I'd rather em not get neither...


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: 'Cause I deserve it

2015-05-31 Thread omd
On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
 Ah, the Agora the Beautiful mousetrap.  Meant to mention that *that*
 likely doesn't work either:  http://cfj.qoid.us/1290 (summary: you
 can't repurpose one kind of announcement to make the announcer
 perform secondary *UNINTENDED* actions against eir will).

Yeah, you're probably right.  Of course I am not attempting to make
you perform a directly game-relevant action on your own behalf, merely
'trigger' something, but I suppose exercising power of attorney is
fundamentally an action by the exerciser.

 Now, this public message obviously alludes to the PoA, so it's fine.
 I hereby use it to state that, any time I make a public statement that
 does *not* explicitly allude to this PoA, I am specifically ignoring,
 therefore implicitly alluding to, the possibility of triggering the
 PoA.

This, however, I think does not work :)


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: 'Cause I deserve it

2015-05-30 Thread Kerim Aydin


On Sat, 30 May 2015, Alex Smith wrote:
 On Sat, 2015-05-30 at 01:11 +0200, Ørjan Johansen wrote:
  On Fri, 29 May 2015, Alex Smith wrote:
  
   I endorse aranea.
  
   -- 
   ais523
   who has a feeling that this doesn't actually work
  
  Are you referring to endorsing for support/objection (which doesn't seem 
  to be an Agoran decision and so wouldn't be covered by 2127), or do you 
  think there's some bug with 649?
 
 It's a strong suspicion that endorsing doesn't work for Agoran Consent.

The only way we could twist it would be to interpret it as
aranea has the power of attorney to act for me on this specific
matter, which e activates by acting emself.  That's a bit of a 
long stretch for the term endorse though it's pretty clearly 
the desired outcome... the main reason I wouldn't favor it is
that *you* didn't explicitly intend PoA to come into play, and 
PoA shouldn't be allowed without fully informed consent.  -G.




Re: DIS: Re: BUS: 'Cause I deserve it

2015-05-30 Thread Alex Smith
On Sat, 2015-05-30 at 01:11 +0200, Ørjan Johansen wrote:
 On Fri, 29 May 2015, Alex Smith wrote:
 
  I endorse aranea.
 
  -- 
  ais523
  who has a feeling that this doesn't actually work
 
 Are you referring to endorsing for support/objection (which doesn't seem 
 to be an Agoran decision and so wouldn't be covered by 2127), or do you 
 think there's some bug with 649?

It's a strong suspicion that endorsing doesn't work for Agoran Consent.

-- 
ais523




Re: DIS: Re: BUS: 'Cause I deserve it

2015-05-29 Thread Ørjan Johansen

On Fri, 29 May 2015, Alex Smith wrote:


I endorse aranea.

--
ais523
who has a feeling that this doesn't actually work


Are you referring to endorsing for support/objection (which doesn't seem 
to be an Agoran decision and so wouldn't be covered by 2127), or do you 
think there's some bug with 649?


Greetings,
Ørjan.

DIS: Re: BUS: 'Cause I deserve it

2015-05-28 Thread omd
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Luis Ressel ara...@aixah.de wrote:
 I intend do ratify the following document Without Objection:

 --
 The Herald is authorized to award aranea the Patent Title of Champion.

I believe tradition is that this doesn't do anything, since the rules
have to define a way for the state to persist.


DIS: Re: BUS: 'Cause I deserve it

2015-05-28 Thread Ørjan Johansen

On Thu, 28 May 2015, Luis Ressel wrote:


--
The Herald is authorized to award aranea the Patent Title of Champion.

--


Silly idea: That the Herald instead use Rule 649 to award aranea the 
Patent Title of Unchampioned.


Greetings,
Ørjan.