Re: [asterisk-users] 3rd party app store
On 09/21/2010 03:41 AM, Rod Montgomery wrote: [/snip] Does anyone reading this have an opinion on whether commercial listings for complementary products and services should appear directly on Asterisk.org? Just my two cents - but I prefer that organisations keep a clear line between open-source/not-for-profit and commercial operations or intentions. You get a not-very-pleasant smell about it when the two start to intermingle to the point where you can't tell where one ends and the other begins. Sebastian -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 3rd party app store
I wholly disagree. Open-source does not imply not-for-profit at all. Look at Red Hat. They sell open source software, by way of selling support, and access to stable repositories for updates. So this line does not need to exist. If the line does exist, then I agree it should be well defined. Thanks, Lyle J. McKarns --- Network Engineering Team n|m Nexus Management 4 Industrial Parkway Suite 101 Brunswick, Maine 04011 Tel (USA) : 1 207 319 1105 Tel (UK) : 0207 100 4968 Fax: 1 207 725 8552 Nexus Management, Inc.│ Registered Office: 4 Industrial Parkway, Suite 101, Brunswick, Maine. 04011│Company No. 19891257D, Registered in Maine│ A member of the Nexus Management Plc group of companies -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Sebastian Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 8:58 AM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] 3rd party app store On 09/21/2010 03:41 AM, Rod Montgomery wrote: [/snip] Does anyone reading this have an opinion on whether commercial listings for complementary products and services should appear directly on Asterisk.org? Just my two cents - but I prefer that organisations keep a clear line between open-source/not-for-profit and commercial operations or intentions. You get a not-very-pleasant smell about it when the two start to intermingle to the point where you can't tell where one ends and the other begins. Sebastian -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 3rd party app store
Personally, I would like to see less commercial marketing on http://asterisk.org. I count 5 separate marketing ads on the download page alone. This is just my opinion. The level of commercialism on the Asterisk.org download page does not bother me at all. Seems eminently fair for Digium to advertise their free (!) entry points for Switchvox and FFA. Asterisk training support - I have no problem with those either. The support and training are pay-for products, but are a big help to the community also. My $0.02. Cassius Smith -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 3rd party app store
That Apple App Store really gets imaginations going, doesn't it? Wouldn't it be great to just publish an AGI script and see even 1% of the Asterisk installed base buy it for the low, low price of $49? Yes, that would be great. But one of the significant components of the moneymaking App Store is platform control. Apple's is the sole legitimate App Store for their platform. Digium gave that sort of control away with the source code to Asterisk. And really, who wants Digium to play middleman in their transaction? We watched with interest when our friends at RedHat launched the RedHat Exchange (RHX). After three years, VP Mike Evans said, We no longer believe that it is productive for Red Hat to try and front end the sale of third-party open source products. It's more effective for them to line up in sales channels with our partners. Source: URL:http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reports/6975/1/ In short, what open source-based ISVs want is not a virtual storefront, but exposure to new customers through existing sales channels and partners. That's why we created AsteriskExchange.com. AsteriskExchange.com provides free listings for free products and services, and paid listings for paid products and services. Digium has already consolidated many of its partnership types into the site, to cross-pollinate them and simplify the programs. The site receives roughly 1/10 the traffic of Asterisk.org and is growing. There's a difference in the visitor as well -- Asterisk newcomers visit Asterisk.org; Asterisk users looking for complementary products and services visit AsteriskExchange.com. Yes, there are fees associated with the AsteriskExchange. You've seen what happens on voip-info and other sites when the barrier is too low. AsteriskExchange is a business project that must earn enough to justify its development and tending. That said, please do get in touch with me if the listing fee is preventing you from joining. We aim to encourage innovative Asterisk applications, even the ones that haven't yet found commercial success. Could we do a better job at getting the word out? Yes, definitely. But we're also cautious about using Asterisk.org and such to promote things like AsteriskExchange. (Also a good reason to discuss this on asterisk-users rather than move it to -biz.) Is it a big deal to see commercial messages on Asterisk.org? We created AsteriskExchange.com as a separate website, but we could just fold it into the project site to raise its visibility and traffic. What waves (good and bad) might this create? What could we do to make the AsteriskExchange more effective? Thanks, rm -- Rod Montgomery Digium, Inc. | Product Manager 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA direct: +1 256 428 6267 fax: +1 256 864 0464 Check us out at: http://digium.com http://asterisk.org -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 3rd party app store
What could we do to make the AsteriskExchange more effective? Rod, I'm not involved with Digium or even Asterisk on a daily basis so I don't know you, I also don't know your intentions but taking you at face value and answering your questions - I suggest you listen to the phone call and understand the reason why it was essential that Digium provide a central transaction point (re-use of Digium code and licensing server). Feel free to give me a call if you have any questions. Cheers, Dean -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users- boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Rod Montgomery Sent: Monday, 20 September 2010 2:44 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] 3rd party app store That Apple App Store really gets imaginations going, doesn't it? Wouldn't it be great to just publish an AGI script and see even 1% of the Asterisk installed base buy it for the low, low price of $49? Yes, that would be great. But one of the significant components of the moneymaking App Store is platform control. Apple's is the sole legitimate App Store for their platform. Digium gave that sort of control away with the source code to Asterisk. And really, who wants Digium to play middleman in their transaction? We watched with interest when our friends at RedHat launched the RedHat Exchange (RHX). After three years, VP Mike Evans said, We no longer believe that it is productive for Red Hat to try and front end the sale of third-party open source products. It's more effective for them to line up in sales channels with our partners. Source: URL:http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reports/6975/1/ In short, what open source-based ISVs want is not a virtual storefront, but exposure to new customers through existing sales channels and partners. That's why we created AsteriskExchange.com. AsteriskExchange.com provides free listings for free products and services, and paid listings for paid products and services. Digium has already consolidated many of its partnership types into the site, to cross-pollinate them and simplify the programs. The site receives roughly 1/10 the traffic of Asterisk.org and is growing. There's a difference in the visitor as well -- Asterisk newcomers visit Asterisk.org; Asterisk users looking for complementary products and services visit AsteriskExchange.com. Yes, there are fees associated with the AsteriskExchange. You've seen what happens on voip-info and other sites when the barrier is too low. AsteriskExchange is a business project that must earn enough to justify its development and tending. That said, please do get in touch with me if the listing fee is preventing you from joining. We aim to encourage innovative Asterisk applications, even the ones that haven't yet found commercial success. Could we do a better job at getting the word out? Yes, definitely. But we're also cautious about using Asterisk.org and such to promote things like AsteriskExchange. (Also a good reason to discuss this on asterisk-users rather than move it to -biz.) Is it a big deal to see commercial messages on Asterisk.org? We created AsteriskExchange.com as a separate website, but we could just fold it into the project site to raise its visibility and traffic. What waves (good and bad) might this create? What could we do to make the AsteriskExchange more effective? Thanks, rm -- Rod Montgomery Digium, Inc. | Product Manager 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA direct: +1 256 428 6267 fax: +1 256 864 0464 Check us out at: http://digium.com http://asterisk.org -- __ ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 3rd party app store
On 20/09/10 3:06 AM, Kevin P. Fleming wrote: There is no fee to list free products on AsteriskExchange. The main problem is the fee required to list non free products. If the fee was a percentage of the sale price then I'm sure it would work much better. Otherwise it becomes a catch 22. Nobody promotes the store because they can't afford to put their products on there, so nobody sells their products when listed on the store, so nobody list their products etc etc. If everybody who had products available was listing the products there, and Digium was taking a percentage cut, you'd see much better success from it, because people would redirect there. -- Cheers, Matt Riddell ___ http://www.venturevoip.com/news.php (Daily Asterisk News) http://www.venturevoip.com/exchange.php (Full ITSP Solution) http://www.venturevoip.com/cc.php (Call Centre Solutions) -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 3rd party app store
Thanks, Dean. I was able to listen to that conference live. Digium's current licensing server has some limitations that make it unsuitable for general use. We are investigating options to improve the licensing platform, but have nothing to announce today. Even if we did, it would be only one missing component to a one-stop Asterisk software store. We'd also need a universal packaging format. AsteriskNOW (currently on CentOS 5.5) is happy with yum-installable RPM packages. It would be clean and simple for everyone to develop on that uniform image, but there is a lot of variety out there. The initial release of AsteriskNOW was on rPath Linux, which is marvelous for building software appliances, but unfamiliar to, well, everyone. Unlike a strictly controlled iPhone environment, there is no one solution that would work well for Asterisk developers. It would also be useful to have a ton of end-user information like iTMS gathered for years before the launch of the App Store. Part of the genius is that the transactional barrier is so low: millions have trusted Apple with payment details for music purchases, and need only tap Install to charge another payment for an iPad app. There must be hundred of thousands of installed Asterisk systems, but we only know the ones that become Digium customers. Also, there are a number of ways to build something marketable with Asterisk. Custom channels or resources, clever dialplan, AGI scripts, AMI-speaking services... it's often easier to incorporate Asterisk as a dependency into a purpose-built software appliance than to assume that Asterisk is at the center of the application's world. We cannot be all things to all people, especially when so many ecosystem partners are providing a service rather than a software product. Last but not least, Asterisk-based apps are not high-volume consumer content. I just don't see many telephony apps selling at a pace similar to music, movies, and games. Then I look to the RHX example I mentioned earlier, in which our friends at RedHat (and Novell before them) tried to become a hub of commerce around their flagship platform. And they failed. Customers didn't want a middleman. Customers wanted to be introduced to great products and services, and to do business directly with those third-party vendors. That's why AsteriskExchange is more a directory than a storefront. As a product manager, I can dream up a situation that imagines Digium as the all-controlling Apple of the Asterisk world, and conjures a ridiculously lucrative App Store that hauls in cash for talented and lucky developers that align with us. I even have a couple of black turtlenecks. But I am not convinced that more than a few want to use our current licensing mechanism. I am not convinced that the market wants Digium to be a central transaction point. I am not convinced that Digium should aspire (or stoop?) to that level of control. I am, however, convinced that ecosystem partners want to be visible to the Asterisk community. As Digium balances our goals of being a good sponsor of Asterisk and a profitable company, we tread very carefully on Asterisk.org. Perhaps keeping the goals apart is not as important as we make it out to be. It clearly has its negatives: keeping AsteriskExchange separate from Asterisk.org also separates it from the heavier visitor traffic. Does anyone reading this have an opinion on whether commercial listings for complementary products and services should appear directly on Asterisk.org? rm -- Rod Montgomery Digium, Inc. | Product Manager 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA direct: +1 256 428 6267 fax: +1 256 864 0464 Check us out at: http://digium.com http://asterisk.org -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 3rd party app store
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Rod Montgomery rmontgom...@digium.com wrote: Does anyone reading this have an opinion on whether commercial listings for complementary products and services should appear directly on Asterisk.org? Personally, I would like to see less commercial marketing on http://asterisk.org. I count 5 separate marketing ads on the download page alone. This is just my opinion. However, on http://www.asteriskexchange.com, no problems. -- Paul Belanger | dCAP Polybeacon | Consultant Jabber: paul.belan...@polybeacon.com | IRC: pabelanger (Freenode) blog.polybeacon.com -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 3rd party app store
On 09/18/2010 09:59 PM, Steve Underwood wrote: On 09/19/2010 12:06 AM, Darren Nickerson wrote: On Sep 18, 2010, at 11:41 AM, Mark Deneen wrote: On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:52 PM, Dean Collinsd...@cognation.net wrote: Any thoughts on why the lack of traffic? Cheers, Dean Not enough applications to play immature bathroom sounds. You could well be right, but consider for a moment a few alternatives. Perhaps it's the $5000 up front just to be listed? I see the fee's reduced to $2500 now as a promo, but still that's a huge barrier for most. Even $1 will keep most free solutions out of a forum like that, so a blanket fee strategy must have been specifically chosen to skew things in a particular way. Seems like it worked very well. There is no fee to list free products on AsteriskExchange. -- Kevin P. Fleming Digium, Inc. | Director of Software Technologies 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA skype: kpfleming | jabber: kflem...@digium.com Check us out at www.digium.com www.asterisk.org -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 3rd party app store
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:52 PM, Dean Collins d...@cognation.net wrote: Any thoughts on why the lack of traffic? Cheers, Dean Not enough applications to play immature bathroom sounds. Just a guess. -M -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 3rd party app store
On Sep 18, 2010, at 11:41 AM, Mark Deneen wrote: On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:52 PM, Dean Collins d...@cognation.net wrote: Any thoughts on why the lack of traffic? Cheers, Dean Not enough applications to play immature bathroom sounds. You could well be right, but consider for a moment a few alternatives. Perhaps it's the $5000 up front just to be listed? I see the fee's reduced to $2500 now as a promo, but still that's a huge barrier for most. Or perhaps its the fact that the nature of the apps that get listed means they aren't usually 'purchase-able' with a simple 'click to buy' (how do you sell SIP trunking with a click-to-buy???) - and as a consequence there's no purchase capability built into the asteriskexchange site, just link outs to different purchase-ish URLs for the various products. Anyone looking to sell their app would need to develop their own point-of-sale/payment processing systems so it's really not an 'app store' at all in the traditional sense. Kudos to digium for realizing this goal, but I think the $5000 get-in cost has resulted in the lack of interest/popularity, and limited the listings to only the largest, most profitable asterisk/digium partners. -d -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 3rd party app store
On 09/19/2010 12:06 AM, Darren Nickerson wrote: On Sep 18, 2010, at 11:41 AM, Mark Deneen wrote: On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:52 PM, Dean Collinsd...@cognation.net wrote: Any thoughts on why the lack of traffic? Cheers, Dean Not enough applications to play immature bathroom sounds. You could well be right, but consider for a moment a few alternatives. Perhaps it's the $5000 up front just to be listed? I see the fee's reduced to $2500 now as a promo, but still that's a huge barrier for most. Even $1 will keep most free solutions out of a forum like that, so a blanket fee strategy must have been specifically chosen to skew things in a particular way. Seems like it worked very well. Or perhaps its the fact that the nature of the apps that get listed means they aren't usually 'purchase-able' with a simple 'click to buy' (how do you sell SIP trunking with a click-to-buy???) - and as a consequence there's no purchase capability built into the asteriskexchange site, just link outs to different purchase-ish URLs for the various products. Anyone looking to sell their app would need to develop their own point-of-sale/payment processing systems so it's really not an 'app store' at all in the traditional sense. That is a pretty basic problem for some things, but not for everything. Plenty of telephony stuff is a thing for sale, even if some after sales support is needed, to get over installation issues. Kudos to digium for realizing this goal, but I think the $5000 get-in cost has resulted in the lack of interest/popularity, and limited the listings to only the largest, most profitable asterisk/digium partners. Kudos to Digium for taking an idea that could have worked against their interests, and sidelining it so well nobody created a real marketplace. The bottom line, of course, is that if people like regular posters here didn't know about about the site, the real target audience most certainly does not. Nothing more is needed to explain the low traffic. Even if you are serious about creating a vibrant, orderly marketplace, its really hard. Look at the variation in quality between them. Even Google, which is basically a marketing company, seem to have no idea how to make the Android market function. Steve -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 3rd party app store
I recently came across this email that I wrote in May 2008 .. http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2008-May/210887.html It's such a shame that Digium manhandled the project away from the community only to then bury it and not allow it to proceed. I really wonder when I look at the Apple iphone development community as to where the 3rd party Asterisk development community could have been if Digium didn't kill this project. (for those of you not involved in Asterisk back in 2208 here is the audio of that conference call. http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-22622/TS-109845.mp3?dl=1 ) Regards, Dean Collins Cognation Inc d...@cognation.net +1-212-203-4357 New York +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial). +44-20-3129-6001 (London in-dial). asterisk-users] FW: Asterisk 3rd party developed commercial software sales licensing platform Dean Collins Dean at cognation.net Mon May 5 06:24:48 CDT 2008 * Previous message: [asterisk-users] MeetMeAdmin() working problem * Next message: [asterisk-users] FW: Asterisk 3rd party developed commercial software sales licensing platform * Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Hi Randy, As discussed on Friday the 9th of May I would like to host this weeks Voip Users Conference Call. The purpose of this call is to discuss the community's feelings about an Asterisk 3rd party developed commercial software sales licensing platform. The plan is that some form of documented published schema be implemented that will allow for 3rd party software developers to sell their software applications using a common licensing model similar to the way G729 licenses are sold by Digium. Basically this discussion came about for a 3rd party ecosystem question a few weeks ago when Cory Andrews from VoIP supply was on the Voip-Users conference call. I asked the question - how much of VoIP Supply revenue is product hardware versus applications - he said we don't sell any services such as ITSP hosted Asterisk so I replied that wasn't what I was thinking of and gave the example of Snap Dialer which is a low cost (I paid $20 for it) application which allows me to dial names from Outlook. He said they didn't sell any applications like this at all but would consider selling them if this was an opportunity presented to him. I then talked about some of the consulting I did for Salesforce.com and how they have built an entire ecosystem of third party applications all built by other people apart from salesforce.com but utilizing the documented API's and application security /licensing etc. My comments were that although Asterisk should always remain a free open source application that developers need to eat and pay rent as well. If there was some common marketplace that developers could sell small - low cost third party applications to the Asterisk community that Digium had some type of overview/management control over who listed etc that this would deliver a stream of revenue that would encourage further application development. The question I then posed to the group was if anyone knew how Digium managed the sale and licensing of the G729 codes. And if this was an open published standard that could it be used as the basis for the Asterisk ecosystem license model. Now I know it's not perfect and can be hacked but everything can be hacked. The idea is to build apps cheap enough that it's not worth the effort of hacking. If anyone has some alternative suggestions on how apps should be licensed we'd like to hear them this Friday. I know there were discussions in the early days of the Mexuar launch about how they could license a single channel of the Mexuar Corraleta application rather than the entire server license for $2000. The issue always came down to how we could license it to 1/ a single channel license. 2/ tied to a single machine and not transferable (currently the Mexuar license is hard coded in the application to the servers IP address). I know for me personally although I have donated to numerous bounty requests (I even tried to get one developed for video conferencing a few years ago that was around the $10,000 range) I haven't seen the ongoing continual development that would benefit the Asterisk community. * I personally would be more than happy to pay for 'the next generation of FOP', it was a great application when launched but there is a lot more it could be offering. * I'd also like to implement a far smarter 'user dashboard' similar to what Druid are developing. * Now I no longer work for Mexuar and don't have access to it anymore I'd also like to pay for a single channel Mexuar license rather than using 'lesser quality' experiences by other solutions. * Drawing on my own now defunct project - is the Asterisk user community now ready for centrally provided services such as the 'off-deck processing' like the Tellme Speech Recognition Service
Re: [asterisk-users] 3rd party app store
On Friday 17 September 2010 12:51:16 Dean Collins wrote: I recently came across this email that I wrote in May 2008 .. http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2008-May/210887.html It's such a shame that Digium manhandled the project away from the community only to then bury it and not allow it to proceed. I really wonder when I look at the Apple iphone development community as to where the 3rd party Asterisk development community could have been if Digium didn't kill this project. It's not buried. You can find the link on asterisk.org, under Applications: http://www.asteriskexchange.com/ -- Tilghman Lesher Digium, Inc. | Senior Software Developer twitter: Corydon76 | IRC: Corydon76-dig (Freenode) Check us out at: www.digium.com www.asterisk.org -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 3rd party app store
Wow when did that happen? How come here is no reviews/traffic Cheers, Dean -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users- boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Tilghman Lesher Sent: Friday, 17 September 2010 4:03 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] 3rd party app store On Friday 17 September 2010 12:51:16 Dean Collins wrote: I recently came across this email that I wrote in May 2008 .. http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2008-May/210887.html It's such a shame that Digium manhandled the project away from the community only to then bury it and not allow it to proceed. I really wonder when I look at the Apple iphone development community as to where the 3rd party Asterisk development community could have been if Digium didn't kill this project. It's not buried. You can find the link on asterisk.org, under Applications: http://www.asteriskexchange.com/ -- Tilghman Lesher Digium, Inc. | Senior Software Developer twitter: Corydon76 | IRC: Corydon76-dig (Freenode) Check us out at: www.digium.com www.asterisk.org -- __ ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 3rd party app store
On Friday 17 September 2010 16:53:58 Dean Collins wrote: -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users- boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Tilghman Lesher Sent: Friday, 17 September 2010 4:03 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] 3rd party app store On Friday 17 September 2010 12:51:16 Dean Collins wrote: I recently came across this email that I wrote in May 2008 .. http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2008-May/210887.html It's such a shame that Digium manhandled the project away from the community only to then bury it and not allow it to proceed. I really wonder when I look at the Apple iphone development community as to where the 3rd party Asterisk development community could have been if Digium didn't kill this project. It's not buried. You can find the link on asterisk.org, under Applications: http://www.asteriskexchange.com/ Wow when did that happen? Shockingly, it happened two years ago, at Astricon, shortly after the email that you referenced. It was even part of a keynote address at Astricon. I'm not sure why you weren't aware of this, as a ton of publicity went out surrounding it. Perhaps you've just forgotten that it existed in the interim? -- Tilghman Lesher Digium, Inc. | Senior Software Developer twitter: Corydon76 | IRC: Corydon76-dig (Freenode) Check us out at: www.digium.com www.asterisk.org -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 3rd party app store
Any thoughts on why the lack of traffic? Cheers, Dean -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users- boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Tilghman Lesher Sent: Friday, 17 September 2010 6:37 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] 3rd party app store On Friday 17 September 2010 16:53:58 Dean Collins wrote: -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users- boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Tilghman Lesher Sent: Friday, 17 September 2010 4:03 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] 3rd party app store On Friday 17 September 2010 12:51:16 Dean Collins wrote: I recently came across this email that I wrote in May 2008 .. http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2008-May/210887.html It's such a shame that Digium manhandled the project away from the community only to then bury it and not allow it to proceed. I really wonder when I look at the Apple iphone development community as to where the 3rd party Asterisk development community could have been if Digium didn't kill this project. It's not buried. You can find the link on asterisk.org, under Applications: http://www.asteriskexchange.com/ Wow when did that happen? Shockingly, it happened two years ago, at Astricon, shortly after the email that you referenced. It was even part of a keynote address at Astricon. I'm not sure why you weren't aware of this, as a ton of publicity went out surrounding it. Perhaps you've just forgotten that it existed in the interim? -- Tilghman Lesher Digium, Inc. | Senior Software Developer twitter: Corydon76 | IRC: Corydon76-dig (Freenode) Check us out at: www.digium.com www.asterisk.org -- __ ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 3rd party app store
On Friday 17 September 2010 22:52:02 Dean Collins wrote: Tilghman Lesher wrote: On Friday 17 September 2010 16:53:58 Dean Collins wrote: Tilghman Lesher wrote: On Friday 17 September 2010 12:51:16 Dean Collins wrote: I recently came across this email that I wrote in May 2008 .. http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2008-May/210887.h tml It's such a shame that Digium manhandled the project away from the community only to then bury it and not allow it to proceed. I really wonder when I look at the Apple iphone development community as to where the 3rd party Asterisk development community could have been if Digium didn't kill this project. It's not buried. You can find the link on asterisk.org, under Applications: http://www.asteriskexchange.com/ Wow when did that happen? Shockingly, it happened two years ago, at Astricon, shortly after the email that you referenced. It was even part of a keynote address at Astricon. I'm not sure why you weren't aware of this, as a ton of publicity went out surrounding it. Perhaps you've just forgotten that it existed in the interim? Any thoughts on why the lack of traffic? No. -- Tilghman Lesher Digium, Inc. | Senior Software Developer twitter: Corydon76 | IRC: Corydon76-dig (Freenode) Check us out at: www.digium.com www.asterisk.org -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
