Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help, mom's name

2014-07-21 Thread João Ventura
Hi Cheri,

Most likely, they did baptize him, but the priest lost the record (or 
something), and when they had to find it again, it was nowhere to be found. 
It's easy to solve that by re-baptizing him.

João Ventura
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On Monday, 21 July 2014 06:57:18 UTC+2, Cheri Mello wrote:
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> Dan,
>
> Yes, they were.  It appears that they discovered he wasn't baptized when 
> he went to get married.  All of his siblings were baptized except him.  
> Don't know if the family all got sick, everyone was busy harvesting or 
> what. No exact date was given, only the year.  So he was baptized as an 
> adult.  Kinda weird for the 1820s, if memory serves me correctly.
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help, mom's name

2014-07-20 Thread Cheri Mello
Dan,

Yes, they were.  It appears that they discovered he wasn't baptized when he
went to get married.  All of his siblings were baptized except him.  Don't
know if the family all got sick, everyone was busy harvesting or what. No
exact date was given, only the year.  So he was baptized as an adult.
Kinda weird for the 1820s, if memory serves me correctly.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help, mom's name

2014-07-20 Thread Dano
Cheri, are you certain the child's parents were actually married at the 
time of his birth? One of my ancestral couples had six children before the 
pastor refused to baptize* a seventh*, before they married. The only 
sibling that was baptized in the same month he was born was that seventh 
sibling :D

On Sunday, July 20, 2014 4:25:28 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Well, if others are also seeing 1819, then maybe it was a small child 
> being baptized a few years later.  Maybe there was an outbreak of something 
> and they didn't take the baby in after birth so they wouldn't infect 
> everyone there (if they knew about such things then).  Maybe they were in 
> the middle of the harvest and couldn't make it.  Maybe they did it and that 
> page fell out so they redid the baptism.  
>
> My ancestor was baptized 25 or so years after his birth.  The only reason 
> we found it was his marriage said he had just been baptized.  He was the 
> only kid not baptized at birth.  We have no idea why, unless it was one of 
> the scenarios above or maybe a host of other reasons.
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help, mom's name

2014-07-20 Thread Cheri Mello
Well, if others are also seeing 1819, then maybe it was a small child being
baptized a few years later.  Maybe there was an outbreak of something and
they didn't take the baby in after birth so they wouldn't infect everyone
there (if they knew about such things then).  Maybe they were in the middle
of the harvest and couldn't make it.  Maybe they did it and that page fell
out so they redid the baptism.

My ancestor was baptized 25 or so years after his birth.  The only reason
we found it was his marriage said he had just been baptized.  He was the
only kid not baptized at birth.  We have no idea why, unless it was one of
the scenarios above or maybe a host of other reasons.

Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help, mom's name

2014-07-20 Thread Eddie Machado
That is what threw me off. I was actually searching after 1831. Right now I 
am on page 127 in 1825-1839 and it is 1831. 

Thank you all for your help!

On Sunday, July 20, 2014 1:37:55 PM UTC-4, sfig wrote:
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> Cheri,
> I agree with you,born on the 15 Aug 1819,  baptized on the 17 Aug 1819, 
> but the preceding page is 1827 which is between 1825-1839. Who knows what 
> the priest was thinking.
> Tish
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Cheri Mello  > wrote:
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>> Eddie M,
>>
>> I think mom is Ritta Victorina (modern: Rita Vitorina).  
>>
>> I swear I'm reading born 15 Aug 1819.  The book is for 1825-1839.  
>> Someone else better take a look. They could have baptized the child much 
>> later.  It happens on occasion.  I can't quite get the baptism date because 
>> of the word above crashing into it. I'd guess 17 or 18 of the same month 
>> and year  (Aug 1819 - if I have that right).
>>
>> More eyes are need to confirm that year please!
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help, mom's name

2014-07-20 Thread Kathy Cardoza
I see what you see,Cheri. 

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> On Jul 20, 2014, at 9:36 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
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> Eddie M,
> 
> I think mom is Ritta Victorina (modern: Rita Vitorina).  
> 
> I swear I'm reading born 15 Aug 1819.  The book is for 1825-1839.  Someone 
> else better take a look. They could have baptized the child much later.  It 
> happens on occasion.  I can't quite get the baptism date because of the word 
> above crashing into it. I'd guess 17 or 18 of the same month and year  (Aug 
> 1819 - if I have that right).
> 
> More eyes are need to confirm that year please!
> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help, mom's name

2014-07-20 Thread Tish M
Cheri,
I agree with you,born on the 15 Aug 1819,  baptized on the 17 Aug 1819, but
the preceding page is 1827 which is between 1825-1839. Who knows what the
priest was thinking.
Tish


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> Eddie M,
>
> I think mom is Ritta Victorina (modern: Rita Vitorina).
>
> I swear I'm reading born 15 Aug 1819.  The book is for 1825-1839.  Someone
> else better take a look. They could have baptized the child much later.  It
> happens on occasion.  I can't quite get the baptism date because of the
> word above crashing into it. I'd guess 17 or 18 of the same month and year
> (Aug 1819 - if I have that right).
>
> More eyes are need to confirm that year please!
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
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> Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help, mom's name

2014-07-20 Thread Cheri Mello
Eddie M,

I think mom is Ritta Victorina (modern: Rita Vitorina).

I swear I'm reading born 15 Aug 1819.  The book is for 1825-1839.  Someone
else better take a look. They could have baptized the child much later.  It
happens on occasion.  I can't quite get the baptism date because of the
word above crashing into it. I'd guess 17 or 18 of the same month and year
(Aug 1819 - if I have that right).

More eyes are need to confirm that year please!

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
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Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help, mom's name

2014-07-20 Thread Edna Epps
Hi Eddie,

I'm kind of new at this too but I think you have done pretty well.   I "think" 
the mother's name is Britta (maybe Ritta) Victorina.  On paternal Grandmother 
it looks like there is a de jesus after Maria Isabel. The date is the birth 
date and I think it's 8-15-1819 (?)  maybe 1829..since it looks like records 
before were 1827???   Really not sure of the year.  God parents  Godfather 
looks like Joaquin de Azevedo de Borba,I think Godmother's name is Barbara 
Jacinta de Azevedo.

Well..hope this will help some.

Edna (dave-e...@comcast.net
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On Jul 20, 2014, at 8:58 AM, Eddie Machado  wrote:

> You think I would remember the most important part
> 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-B-1825-1839/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-B-1825-1839_item1/P265.html
> 
> Thanks
> 
> On Sunday, July 20, 2014 11:54:53 AM UTC-4, DiG wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>  
> What's the link?
> 
>  
> Diane
> 
>  
> 
> From: azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Eddie Machado
> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 8:03 AM
> To: azo...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help, mom's name
> 
>  
> Hi all, I once again need a little help with the translations. I can't read 
> the mom's name or the exact year. Here is what I have:
> 
>  
> Manuel son of Jorge d' Azevedo Machado and (Can't read mom's name)
> 
> Paternal grandparents are Manuel d' Azevedo Machado and Maria Isabel
> 
> Maternal grandparents are Joam? d' Azevedo de Borba and Anna d' Azevedo?
> 
> The date I read is 15th of August 18? and not sure if this is the birth or 
> baptism day
> 
> godparents are Joaquim d' Azevedo Machado and Juinita? d' Azevedo
> 
>  
> Thanks for any help,
> 
>  
> Eddie
> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help, mom's name

2014-07-20 Thread Eddie Machado
You think I would remember the most important part

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-B-1825-1839/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-B-1825-1839_item1/P265.html

Thanks

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> Hi, 
>
>  
>
> What’s the link?
>
>  
>
> Diane
>
>  
>
> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> azo...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Eddie Machado
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 20, 2014 8:03 AM
> *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help, mom's name
>
>  
>
> Hi all, I once again need a little help with the translations. I can't 
> read the mom's name or the exact year. Here is what I have:
>
>  
>
> Manuel son of Jorge d' Azevedo Machado and (Can't read mom's name)
>
> Paternal grandparents are Manuel d' Azevedo Machado and Maria Isabel
>
> Maternal grandparents are Joam? d' Azevedo de Borba and Anna d' Azevedo?
>
> The date I read is 15th of August 18? and not sure if this is the birth or 
> baptism day
>
> godparents are Joaquim d' Azevedo Machado and Juinita? d' Azevedo
>
>  
>
> Thanks for any help,
>
>  
>
> Eddie
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help, mom's name

2014-07-20 Thread Diane George
Hi, 

 

What’s the link?

 

Diane

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Eddie Machado
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 8:03 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help, mom's name

 

Hi all, I once again need a little help with the translations. I can't read the 
mom's name or the exact year. Here is what I have:

 

Manuel son of Jorge d' Azevedo Machado and (Can't read mom's name)

Paternal grandparents are Manuel d' Azevedo Machado and Maria Isabel

Maternal grandparents are Joam? d' Azevedo de Borba and Anna d' Azevedo?

The date I read is 15th of August 18? and not sure if this is the birth or 
baptism day

godparents are Joaquim d' Azevedo Machado and Juinita? d' Azevedo

 

Thanks for any help,

 

Eddie

 

 

 

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