Re: [Bacula-users] Running several jobs at a time
Op 20121015 om 09:48 schreef Marek Šimon: Od: Geert Stappers geert.stapp...@vanadgroup.com Odeslané: Středa, 10. Říjen 2012 9:00:46 Op 20121008 om 23:32 schreef lst_ho...@kwsoft.de: Zitat von Константин Поветкин povet...@kuz.com.ua: Please give me an example, if it`s possible, how to make bacula to run several jobs at a time. How is it possible to check if jobs are executing concurrent? Current config of my bacula-dir instance: snip/ Current config of my bacula-sd instance: snip/ snip set priority /snip Back to: How is it possible to check if jobs are executing concurrent? I don't understand that question. Perhaps should I read it as: How to create a denial-of-service attack with my bacula clients on my bacula server? And how to check the current attack count? I think that You need to take sure that the jobs have the same Priority. could help with doing stupid things. However to make the DoS attack succeed, is more needed. Like making several definitions of the same storage deamon and hope that the Bacula schedular eats the bait. In other words: When are more concurrent jobs then just one backup job wanted? I dont understand why having concurent jobs is wrong. I think that replying below the text, could have avoided the word 'wrong'. I have tens of clients, hundereds of jobs. The clients are on slower lines than the storage daemon, and when Incremental job is on, the traffic is nearly zero. My director with storage daemon can manage about 20 concurent jobs. The load is higher but now DOS at all. Good for you. And it is up to you what happens when the lines to clients get faster. Okay, meanwhile I see use cases for more concurrent jobs. With some luck will the next posting in this thread start with a line like and actually answer it. How is it possible to check if jobs are executing concurrent? Cheers Geert Stappers -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Running several jobs at a time
Op 20121010 om 09:39 schreef lst_ho...@kwsoft.de: Zitat von Geert Stappers geert.stapp...@vanadgroup.com: Back to: How is it possible to check if jobs are executing concurrent? I don't understand that question. Perhaps should I read it as: How to create a denial-of-service attack with my bacula clients on my bacula server? And how to check the current attack count? I think that You need to take sure that the jobs have the same Priority. could help with doing stupid things. However to make the DoS attack succeed, is more needed. Like making several definitions of the same storage deamon and hope that the Bacula schedular eats the bait. In other words: When are more concurrent jobs then just one backup job wanted? If the clients are compareable slow and the server is able to handle the throughput from more than one client concurrently? Okay. And let us _assume_ that it does scale. What is wrong with well balanced concurrency? The time spend on balancing. Cheers Geert Stappers who chooses robust above well balanced -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Running several jobs at a time
I dont understand why having concurent jobs is wrong. I have tens of clients, hundereds of jobs. The clients are on slower lines than the storage daemon, and when Incremental job is on, the traffic is nearly zero. My director with storage daemon can manage about 20 concurent jobs. The load is higher but now DOS at all. - Původní zprávy - Od: Geert Stappers geert.stapp...@vanadgroup.com Komu: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Odeslané: Středa, 10. Říjen 2012 9:00:46 Předmět: Re: [Bacula-users] Running several jobs at a time Op 20121008 om 23:32 schreef lst_ho...@kwsoft.de: Zitat von Константин Поветкин povet...@kuz.com.ua: Please give me an example, if it`s possible, how to make bacula to run several jobs at a time. How is it possible to check if jobs are executing concurrent? Current config of my bacula-dir instance: snip/ Current config of my bacula-sd instance: snip/ You need to take sure that the jobs have the same Priority. To check use Bat or the bconsole. Is there a more conviened way to see priorities for jobs then to check then one after one in bconsole? | *run job=c1job | Run Backup job | JobName: c1job | Level:Incremental | Client: c1-fd | FileSet: rootboothomevar | Pool: Default (From Job resource) | Storage: File (From Job resource) | When: 2012-10-10 08:12:08 | Priority: 10 | OK to run? (yes/mod/no): . | Job not run. Back to: How is it possible to check if jobs are executing concurrent? I don't understand that question. Perhaps should I read it as: How to create a denial-of-service attack with my bacula clients on my bacula server? And how to check the current attack count? I think that You need to take sure that the jobs have the same Priority. could help with doing stupid things. However to make the DoS attack succeed, is more needed. Like making several definitions of the same storage deamon and hope that the Bacula schedular eats the bait. In other words: When are more concurrent jobs then just one backup job wanted? Cheers Geert Stappers -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Running several jobs at a time
Hello, 2012/10/10 Geert Stappers geert.stapp...@vanadgroup.com Is there a more conviened way to see priorities for jobs then to check then one after one in bconsole? Use: *show jobs* in bconsole and you'll get all available information about all defined jobs. You can limit this by: *show job=jobname*. best regards -- Radosław Korzeniewski rados...@korzeniewski.net -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Running several jobs at a time, show priority
Op 20121011 om 11:24 schreef Radosław Korzeniewski: 2012/10/10 Geert Stappers geert.stapp...@vanadgroup.com Is there a more conviened way to see priorities for jobs then to check then one after one in bconsole? Use: show jobs in bconsole and you'll get all available information about all defined jobs. You can limit this by: show job=jobname. Thanks. With a command line like echo show jobs | /etc/bacula/scripts/bconsole | grep ^Job I get lines like Job: name=c1job JobType=66 level=Incremental Priority=10 Enabled=1 Job: name=c2job JobType=66 level=Incremental Priority=10 Enabled=1 Cheers Geert Stappers -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Running several jobs at a time
Op 20121008 om 23:32 schreef lst_ho...@kwsoft.de: Zitat von Константин Поветкин povet...@kuz.com.ua: Please give me an example, if it`s possible, how to make bacula to run several jobs at a time. How is it possible to check if jobs are executing concurrent? Current config of my bacula-dir instance: snip/ Current config of my bacula-sd instance: snip/ You need to take sure that the jobs have the same Priority. To check use Bat or the bconsole. Is there a more conviened way to see priorities for jobs then to check then one after one in bconsole? | *run job=c1job | Run Backup job | JobName: c1job | Level:Incremental | Client: c1-fd | FileSet: rootboothomevar | Pool: Default (From Job resource) | Storage: File (From Job resource) | When: 2012-10-10 08:12:08 | Priority: 10 | OK to run? (yes/mod/no): . | Job not run. Back to: How is it possible to check if jobs are executing concurrent? I don't understand that question. Perhaps should I read it as: How to create a denial-of-service attack with my bacula clients on my bacula server? And how to check the current attack count? I think that You need to take sure that the jobs have the same Priority. could help with doing stupid things. However to make the DoS attack succeed, is more needed. Like making several definitions of the same storage deamon and hope that the Bacula schedular eats the bait. In other words: When are more concurrent jobs then just one backup job wanted? Cheers Geert Stappers -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Running several jobs at a time
Zitat von Geert Stappers geert.stapp...@vanadgroup.com: Op 20121008 om 23:32 schreef lst_ho...@kwsoft.de: Zitat von Константин Поветкин povet...@kuz.com.ua: Please give me an example, if it`s possible, how to make bacula to run several jobs at a time. How is it possible to check if jobs are executing concurrent? Current config of my bacula-dir instance: snip/ Current config of my bacula-sd instance: snip/ You need to take sure that the jobs have the same Priority. To check use Bat or the bconsole. Is there a more conviened way to see priorities for jobs then to check then one after one in bconsole? | *run job=c1job | Run Backup job | JobName: c1job | Level:Incremental | Client: c1-fd | FileSet: rootboothomevar | Pool: Default (From Job resource) | Storage: File (From Job resource) | When: 2012-10-10 08:12:08 | Priority: 10 | OK to run? (yes/mod/no): . | Job not run. Back to: How is it possible to check if jobs are executing concurrent? I don't understand that question. Perhaps should I read it as: How to create a denial-of-service attack with my bacula clients on my bacula server? And how to check the current attack count? I think that You need to take sure that the jobs have the same Priority. could help with doing stupid things. However to make the DoS attack succeed, is more needed. Like making several definitions of the same storage deamon and hope that the Bacula schedular eats the bait. In other words: When are more concurrent jobs then just one backup job wanted? If the clients are compareable slow and the server is able to handle the throughput from more than one client concurrently? What is wrong with well balanced concurrency? Regards Andreas -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] Running several jobs at a time
Please give me an example, if it`s possible, how to make bacula to run several jobs at a time. How is it possible to check if jobs are executing concurrent? Current config of my bacula-dir instance: Director {# define myself Name = www-dir DirAddress = backup.tradehouse.local DIRport = 9101# where we listen for UA connections QueryFile = /usr/libexec/bacula/query.sql WorkingDirectory = /var/lib/bacula PidDirectory = /var/run Maximum Concurrent Jobs = 20 Password = password # Console password Messages = Daemon } Current config of my bacula-sd instance: Storage { # definition of myself Name = www-sd SDPort = 9103 # Director's port WorkingDirectory = /var/lib/bacula Pid Directory = /var/run Maximum Concurrent Jobs = 20 Heartbeat Interval = 120 Client Connect Wait = 14400 } With best regards, system administrator PJSC Kiev jewellery factory Kostiantyn Povietkin. -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Running several jobs at a time
Zitat von Константин Поветкин povet...@kuz.com.ua: Please give me an example, if it`s possible, how to make bacula to run several jobs at a time. How is it possible to check if jobs are executing concurrent? Current config of my bacula-dir instance: Director {# define myself Name = www-dir DirAddress = backup.tradehouse.local DIRport = 9101# where we listen for UA connections QueryFile = /usr/libexec/bacula/query.sql WorkingDirectory = /var/lib/bacula PidDirectory = /var/run Maximum Concurrent Jobs = 20 Password = password # Console password Messages = Daemon } Current config of my bacula-sd instance: Storage { # definition of myself Name = www-sd SDPort = 9103 # Director's port WorkingDirectory = /var/lib/bacula Pid Directory = /var/run Maximum Concurrent Jobs = 20 Heartbeat Interval = 120 Client Connect Wait = 14400 } You need to take sure that the jobs have the same Priority. To check use Bat or the bconsole. Regards Andreas -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users