Re: [beagleboard] Different HARDWARE same Rev.
No probs, you helped enough... Il giorno sabato 5 ottobre 2013 02:15:30 UTC+2, garyamort ha scritto: On Friday, October 4, 2013 7:24:10 PM UTC-4, synko...@gmail.com wrote: Im glad to see you explanation, now is solved... a doubt is left: How could the Sys Builder make image that boot always in eth0? might they use eth0 or wifi... IMHO I'm afraid my knowledge pretty much ends at knowing WHAT the issue is and a generalized way to solve it - but not the specifics for your case. I only remember all of this because I ran across the same issue with running Ubuntu on virtual systems via Amazon EC2. I'd try to clone a working system to turn it into an EC2 image and when I booted a new copy[which received a new virtual ethernet card with a new MAC address] it would not work. I eventually figured out the specific steps to follow when creating an EC2 image to purge this information so they would work - but I honestly don't know what exactly the process should be when dealing with the BBB. At the moment I only have one BBB so it doesn't affect me. Sorry I couldn't be more help. :-( I just figured I'd try to explain it in some extra detail because it was quite frustrating/difficult to understand when I first encountered it[especially since this feature had not been in the previous version of Ubuntu I used at the time, so it initially felt like the new version of Ubuntu broke EC2]. -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [beagleboard] Different HARDWARE same Rev.
Maybe we are not understanding well... Ive no usb device attached on them, im forced to attach the usb storage only to get out the dmesg file from the no working network adapter. Is clear now? Il giorno venerdì 4 ottobre 2013 18:00:33 UTC+2, Gerald ha scritto: As explained on the Wiki, that is because the short dongles have their RF patterns interfere with by the board. They have no antennae to speak of. Putting the board on standoffs can also help. Putting it on a cable gets it away from the board and the copper planes of the board. Every board has a unique RF signature that can interfere with these cheap USB dongles. We put the same chips on the board. Gerald On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Robert Nelson robert...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 10:51 AM, synko...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: bone20 Yuck... Why do people still use an image that hasn't seen any updates since June 9th.. Was June when i started working on this beautiful board, and now from i understood there isnt a way to make any in place upgrate, i cannot reflash and starting all again... Could you answer to my question, please? --- Why the hardware is different? --- It isn't... But the usb bus is known to be finicky... In some cases you can add a simple short usb cable extension and it magically works where it failed previously on a board.. Regards, -- Robert Nelson http://www.rcn-ee.com/ -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [beagleboard] Different HARDWARE same Rev.
Isnt damaged, the non working eth board if flashed with a more updated debian image it works! Il giorno venerdì 4 ottobre 2013 18:06:03 UTC+2, Gerald ha scritto: So this is an Ethernet issue? Network adapter usually refers to adapting form one interface, USB, to another. So, if this is an Ethernet issue, maybe one of the distributors shipped you a bad board, maybe one that was returned by someone else. Or maybe it is bad and has an issue, or maybe has been damged. Just request an RMA and we will get it fixed. Gerald On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 11:01 AM, synko...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Who spoken about USB? ive got the issue on the native lan eth adapter... i cannot understand Il giorno venerdì 4 ottobre 2013 17:56:29 UTC+2, RobertCNelson ha scritto: On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 10:51 AM, synko...@gmail.com wrote: bone20 Yuck... Why do people still use an image that hasn't seen any updates since June 9th.. Was June when i started working on this beautiful board, and now from i understood there isnt a way to make any in place upgrate, i cannot reflash and starting all again... Could you answer to my question, please? --- Why the hardware is different? --- It isn't... But the usb bus is known to be finicky... In some cases you can add a simple short usb cable extension and it magically works where it failed previously on a board.. Regards, -- Robert Nelson http://www.rcn-ee.com/ -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [beagleboard] Different HARDWARE same Rev.
the udev rule don't work, the one explained in the link: */etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules no results, tick tack tick tack. * Il giorno venerdì 4 ottobre 2013 18:05:38 UTC+2, RobertCNelson ha scritto: On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 11:01 AM, synko...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Who spoken about USB? ive got the issue on the native lan eth adapter... i cannot understand Ahh... Duh.. You should really lead with that next time... I read both dmesg logs and the only issue was usb babble warnings.. When you copied the image from board 1 to board 2, did you tweak udev or /etc/network/interfaces, probally not... As each board has a unique mac address, it's probally eth1.. If you want the same image to work on all boards, just add this very simple udev rule .. http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black#BeagleBoneBlack-Networking:UsingasharedSDcardwithMultipleBeagleBone Regards, -- Robert Nelson http://www.rcn-ee.com/ -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [beagleboard] Different HARDWARE same Rev.
Near Milan Il giorno venerdì 4 ottobre 2013 18:27:26 UTC+2, Gerald ha scritto: Where in Italy are you? Gerald On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 11:25 AM, synko...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Ehmm.. i saw the /etc/network/interfaces and is standard should work,... now im making the udev change... i hope and pray Il giorno venerdì 4 ottobre 2013 18:05:38 UTC+2, RobertCNelson ha scritto: On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 11:01 AM, synko...@gmail.com wrote: Who spoken about USB? ive got the issue on the native lan eth adapter... i cannot understand Ahh... Duh.. You should really lead with that next time... I read both dmesg logs and the only issue was usb babble warnings.. When you copied the image from board 1 to board 2, did you tweak udev or /etc/network/interfaces, probally not... As each board has a unique mac address, it's probally eth1.. If you want the same image to work on all boards, just add this very simple udev rule .. http://eewiki.net/display/**linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black#** BeagleBoneBlack-Networking:**UsingasharedSDcardwithMultiple**BeagleBonehttp://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black#BeagleBoneBlack-Networking:UsingasharedSDcardwithMultipleBeagleBone Regards, -- Robert Nelson http://www.rcn-ee.com/ -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [beagleboard] Different HARDWARE same Rev.
MAny thanks Robert, ifconfig -a showed the eth1 so from what i understood is sufficient to put an ifconfig -a in the rc.local, is it correct? Il giorno venerdì 4 ottobre 2013 18:47:03 UTC+2, RobertCNelson ha scritto: On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 11:30 AM, synko...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: the udev rule don't work, the one explained in the link: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules no results, tick tack tick tack. Strange.. add it.. or just run /sbin/ifconfig -a and we can see what's really going on.. Regards, -- Robert Nelson http://www.rcn-ee.com/ -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [beagleboard] Different HARDWARE same Rev.
And now a simple question come to my mind... why the eth0 is on my working board and in the other is showed as eth1? maybe is the mac address that the system learn as is a second network card... so from what i see is impossible to scale an image flashing to multiple BBB without setting the eth interface... is it correct? I think that if the board are the same the image run as the same way as ive done a time ago with same laptop model formatted with the same image all ran well btw Robert and Gerald , thanks for the fast support, ill try to make a script to handle this Il giorno venerdì 4 ottobre 2013 18:47:03 UTC+2, RobertCNelson ha scritto: On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 11:30 AM, synko...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: the udev rule don't work, the one explained in the link: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules no results, tick tack tick tack. Strange.. add it.. or just run /sbin/ifconfig -a and we can see what's really going on.. Regards, -- Robert Nelson http://www.rcn-ee.com/ -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [beagleboard] Different HARDWARE same Rev.
done with: ifconfig -a ifconfig eth1 ip Il giorno venerdì 4 ottobre 2013 18:58:38 UTC+2, synko...@gmail.com ha scritto: MAny thanks Robert, ifconfig -a showed the eth1 so from what i understood is sufficient to put an ifconfig -a in the rc.local, is it correct? Il giorno venerdì 4 ottobre 2013 18:47:03 UTC+2, RobertCNelson ha scritto: On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 11:30 AM, synko...@gmail.com wrote: the udev rule don't work, the one explained in the link: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules no results, tick tack tick tack. Strange.. add it.. or just run /sbin/ifconfig -a and we can see what's really going on.. Regards, -- Robert Nelson http://www.rcn-ee.com/ -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [beagleboard] Different HARDWARE same Rev.
Yes, is possible cause all the board will see it as eth1... Il giorno venerdì 4 ottobre 2013 19:11:48 UTC+2, synko...@gmail.com ha scritto: so from what i see is impossible to scale an image flashing to multiple BBB without setting the eth interface... is it correct? I think that if the board are the same the image run as the same way as ive done a time ago with same laptop model formatted with the same image all ran well btw Robert and Gerald , thanks for the fast support, ill try to make a script to handle this Il giorno venerdì 4 ottobre 2013 18:47:03 UTC+2, RobertCNelson ha scritto: On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 11:30 AM, synko...@gmail.com wrote: the udev rule don't work, the one explained in the link: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules no results, tick tack tick tack. Strange.. add it.. or just run /sbin/ifconfig -a and we can see what's really going on.. Regards, -- Robert Nelson http://www.rcn-ee.com/ -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
