[Blackbelly] suden death of ABB ewe

2015-05-26 Thread marc even
Thank you all very much for your comments

they make me do more research

it was probably not the case of selenium poisoning since we have a
deficiency of selenium in miami

I am not ruling out a possible poisonus annual or vine.

all the other ewes are fine and I have the tendency to believe that some
sort of blockage was the cause .

marc
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Re: [Blackbelly] suden death of ABB ewe

2015-05-23 Thread Laura Rinker
Thanks Cecil - I will let the guy know as I was suspecting poison as well
but then the verdict of Pneumonia really surprised me especially the cardiac
issue as combined that would indicate possibility of selenium poisoning.

-Original Message-
From: Blackbelly [mailto:blackbelly-boun...@lists.blackbellysheep.info] On
Behalf Of Cecil R Bearden
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 3:42 PM
To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info
Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] suden death of ABB ewe

I cannot help but suspect Selenium poisoning here.   It acts fast, Less 
than 6 hrs, and looks like pneumonia.




On 5/23/2015 1:33 PM, Laura Rinker wrote:
> There were a bunch of sudden deaths on a property in Galt, Ca and a 
> necropsy on one of them from UC davis showed pneumonia and cardiac 
> issues-there were
> 8 ram lambs that died. Not sure if this is a problem in FL but I am 
> holding
> 4 ram lambs for that guy to see if there are other issues. ABB sheep 
> are very tough so it is a concern if there is a new bug out there that 
> takes them out so quickly.  My sheep are isolated from other herd so 
> hopefully if it is a bug it will bypass me here.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Blackbelly 
> [mailto:blackbelly-boun...@lists.blackbellysheep.info] On Behalf Of 
> marc even
> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 9:28 AM
> To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info
> Subject: [Blackbelly] suden death of ABB ewe
>
> I am a registered ABB breeder in south miami florida
>
> this morning my strongest 3 1/2 year old ewe died without any  sign of 
> illness or distress.
>
> she gave birth 2 weeks ago to a beautiful ram (5 lbs) which she nursed 
> normally.
>
> I found and burned her placenta.
>
> She was well rounded,not skinny and she had no diarrhea and blood in 
> her stool
>
> her eyes were pink
>
> I opened her belly and did not find any unborn baby
>
> her stomachs were full of grass
>
> her intestines very clean and no blood
>
> I did not find any fecal pellets
>
> I will appreciate any info.
>
> thank you very much
>
> marc even e-mail:  ursulam...@gmail.com
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Re: [Blackbelly] suden death of ABB ewe

2015-05-23 Thread Cecil R Bearden
I cannot help but suspect Selenium poisoning here.   It acts fast, Less 
than 6 hrs, and looks like pneumonia.





On 5/23/2015 1:33 PM, Laura Rinker wrote:

There were a bunch of sudden deaths on a property in Galt, Ca and a necropsy
on one of them from UC davis showed pneumonia and cardiac issues-there were
8 ram lambs that died. Not sure if this is a problem in FL but I am holding
4 ram lambs for that guy to see if there are other issues. ABB sheep are
very tough so it is a concern if there is a new bug out there that takes
them out so quickly.  My sheep are isolated from other herd so hopefully if
it is a bug it will bypass me here.

-Original Message-
From: Blackbelly [mailto:blackbelly-boun...@lists.blackbellysheep.info] On
Behalf Of marc even
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 9:28 AM
To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info
Subject: [Blackbelly] suden death of ABB ewe

I am a registered ABB breeder in south miami florida

this morning my strongest 3 1/2 year old ewe died without any  sign of
illness or distress.

she gave birth 2 weeks ago to a beautiful ram (5 lbs) which she nursed
normally.

I found and burned her placenta.

She was well rounded,not skinny and she had no diarrhea and blood in her
stool

her eyes were pink

I opened her belly and did not find any unborn baby

her stomachs were full of grass

her intestines very clean and no blood

I did not find any fecal pellets

I will appreciate any info.

thank you very much

marc even e-mail:  ursulam...@gmail.com
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Re: [Blackbelly] suden death of ABB ewe

2015-05-23 Thread Laura Rinker
There were a bunch of sudden deaths on a property in Galt, Ca and a necropsy
on one of them from UC davis showed pneumonia and cardiac issues-there were
8 ram lambs that died. Not sure if this is a problem in FL but I am holding
4 ram lambs for that guy to see if there are other issues. ABB sheep are
very tough so it is a concern if there is a new bug out there that takes
them out so quickly.  My sheep are isolated from other herd so hopefully if
it is a bug it will bypass me here.

-Original Message-
From: Blackbelly [mailto:blackbelly-boun...@lists.blackbellysheep.info] On
Behalf Of marc even
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 9:28 AM
To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info
Subject: [Blackbelly] suden death of ABB ewe

I am a registered ABB breeder in south miami florida

this morning my strongest 3 1/2 year old ewe died without any  sign of
illness or distress.

she gave birth 2 weeks ago to a beautiful ram (5 lbs) which she nursed
normally.

I found and burned her placenta.

She was well rounded,not skinny and she had no diarrhea and blood in her
stool

her eyes were pink

I opened her belly and did not find any unborn baby

her stomachs were full of grass

her intestines very clean and no blood

I did not find any fecal pellets

I will appreciate any info.

thank you very much

marc even e-mail:  ursulam...@gmail.com
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[Blackbelly] suden death of ABB ewe

2015-05-23 Thread marc even
I am a registered ABB breeder in south miami florida

this morning my strongest 3 1/2 year old ewe died without any  sign of
illness or distress.

she gave birth 2 weeks ago to a beautiful ram (5 lbs) which she nursed
normally.

I found and burned her placenta.

She was well rounded,not skinny and she had no diarrhea and blood in her
stool

her eyes were pink

I opened her belly and did not find any unborn baby

her stomachs were full of grass

her intestines very clean and no blood

I did not find any fecal pellets

I will appreciate any info.

thank you very much

marc even e-mail:  ursulam...@gmail.com
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