ReptiliKlan Lies Caught on Tape + Intimidation + Death Threat
http://www.dallasobserver.com/issues/2004-03-04/news.html/1/index.html Congressional candidate Mike Murphy feels the strong arm of the GOP BY JOHN GONZALEZ Mike Murphy's run for the District 4 congressional seat has ruffled feathers in the national GOP. He just can't figure out why. About a year ago, Mike Murphy and his pal J.J. Miller were at his pad in Frisco shooting pool over a few cold beers and lamenting the state of politics. Murphy, who is now 30, and Miller, 33, couldn't find a candidate whose ideas and values meshed with theirs, and the two young Republicans thought their party needed better guidance. That's when I said he should run for Congress, Miller recalls. I told him he'd be perfect. The idea grew on Murphy, despite a few obstacles to his candidacy. For instance, the finance manager and Texas native had no political experience. And no money. And, when you get right down to it, not much of a chance, really. But political hope springs eternal--witness Ralph Nader, Al Sharpton, et al. --so with help from other politically interested friends and volunteers, in January Murphy filed as a GOP candidate for the U.S. House in District 4, which includes parts of Dallas and Collin counties, among others. He went to a candidates' school, where he learned basic campaign strategy on a tight budget. He went door-to-door and talked to people about issues. He hasn't run any television or radio ads; his is a grassroots campaign. So it seemed a bit strange when Murphy received a phone call on January 13 from New York Congressman Tom Reynolds, chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee. Reynolds advised the novice to get out of the race. The suggestion itself was not too unusual, though hearing it from someone as high in the party as Reynolds seemed odd. Incumbent Ralph Hall had represented the district as a Democrat for more than 20 years until January, when he switched parties and joined the GOP. I think I can get re-elected much easier if I run as a Republican, Hall told The Associated Press at the time. The GOP, naturally concerned that their newest member could be attacked in a primary for his defection and his comments to the AP, wanted to make the race easier for Hall. According to Murphy, before getting the call from Reynolds, he was twice contacted by the Republican Party of Texas, which also advised him to drop out. He didn't, which is when the NRCC took over the get-Murphy-out push. According to Murphy, Reynolds urged him to leave the race because the party was throwing its full weight behind Hall. What sense did it make to run against an 80-year-old man who is a longtime friend of the president? Murphy said that Reynolds dropped plenty of big names, including Karl Rove, chief political strategist for the president. Reynolds promised that, should Murphy put his party first, House Majority Leader Tom DeLay would be made aware and that he wouldn't forget it. Murphy still didn't drop out. A few days later, Murphy received another phone call, this time from Larry Telford, whom the NRCC calls its incumbent retention director. Murphy said Telford told him that running would make Murphy an enemy of the White House and ruin his political career. The party is always very hardball, says Harvey Kronberg, editor of Quorum Report, a respected nonpartisan political Web site and subscription newsletter based in Austin. They really only have two switches, on and off. They don't think it's overkill. That's not the way they view things from the Potomac when they start drinking that water. They think everyone has desires to move up the food chain, and since they don't know this fellow, they probably figured they'd better come out guns blazing. Intimidation works in so many other parts of their world that they're probably mystified that it didn't work this time. Carl Forti, the NRCC's communication director, denied that the party tried to squash District 4's grassroots challenger with bluster. Forti confirmed that Reynolds and Telford had been in contact with Murphy, but said that Karl Rove's name had not been dropped in either conversation. He also denied that either caller had in any way suggested that running might ruin Murphy's political career and make him an enemy of the White House. Unfortunately for Forti, Murphy owns a tape recorder. He taped his conversations with Telford and Reynolds, and he shared them with the Dallas Observer. On the tapes, Reynolds can be heard clearly: Normally with a party switcher, I'd deal with it myself or take it to the speaker, but I took this one directly to Karl Rove because of the unique relationship the White House has with Ralph. That's what started this whole thing. Reynolds also acknowledged that the Republicans don't want party switchers in the South getting beat up too badly, because they'd like more to follow Hall's example. Telford was recorded saying that the relationship between Hall and the president goes
Re: ReptiliKlan Lies Caught on Tape + Intimidation + Death Threat
At 01:58 AM 3/9/04, The Fool wrote: ...snip... Telford was recorded saying that the relationship between Hall and the president goes back a long way--they've helped each other for forever and a day, and the White House won't rest until he wins. Then, later: Just consider what you're doing now. You don't want to have the freakin' president of the United States mad at you for the rest of your life. And, finally: It will help you immensely to not do something that won't take you anywhere in a practical manner and that will really screw up your chances down the road...If you step off this cliff, gravity never goes up, it goes down. Death Threat: You don't want to have the freakin' president of the United States mad at you for the rest of your life. Seems like it takes a fair amount of imagination, or at the very least extremely broad interpretation, to read that as a threat to kill somebody. -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Death of genre TV
At 06:00 PM 3/8/04, William T Goodall wrote: http://metromix.chicagotribune.com/movies/mmx -0403080009mar08,0,7778841.story?coll=mmx-movies_heds An interesting article with quotes from people who actually know a thing or two about why scripted genre shows are poorly just now. Some quotes - Reality TV is crowding out scripted programming of all kinds. - Reality generally costs less to produce, and it often snags a younger demographic. - Genre television, especially the spaceship-roaming-the-galaxy variety, is not only costlier than reality TV, it also can be more expensive than a cop show or a legal drama. - A corollary to the profit pressure: Interference from network executives is at an all-time high, according to several veteran producers. - Many sci-fi, horror and fantasy shows have complex, ongoing story arcs, which fans love but which make network executives break out in hives. Dick Askin, president of Tribune Entertainment, which syndicates genre fare such as Andromeda and Mutant X, says he's not looking for the next Star Trek -- a new show about people roaming around in spaceships is, he says, a long putt in today's TV environment. But he'd think about developing the next Smallville. TV runs in cycles, Askin says. We may just be in one of those dormant periods. [Genre TV] inevitably will come back. From today's Frank and Ernest comic strip: When you're majoring in abnormal psychology, _all_ television is educational! -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Looking for a movie/series pilot
From: Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Looking for a movie/series pilot Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 22:01:47 -0500 At 08:55 PM 3/8/2004, you wrote: I have probably asked this here before, but I'll try again just in case I am looking for the name of a movie that might have been a series pilot attempt around 1990 or 1991. It was about a police station that was at an old bakery. The movie followed the same police officers through three different eras. It would jump back and fourth between the eras and show how the same officers had changed between the 70', 90's and 2010. I thought the movie was called The Bakery or something like that, but I have been looking on the IMDB for years and still have not found anything. Any suggestions? Gary http://www.entertainment-geekly.com/web/general/sep2002/dead_air_probe BAKERY, THE (UNSOLD PILOT) CBS 1990. 60 mins. Set in Police Station, in a burned out BAKERY. Over the course of 3-time periods 65/89/2001!! **GREAT** (1) http://hometown.aol.com/jpulino007/ Not much info really. I always wanted to find Drew Carey's first TV show The Good Life He wasn't the main character; still funny. Kevin T. - VRWC sleep Someone is willing to sell/trade a copy of the tape here: http://hometown.aol.com/jpulino007/ Jon Le Blog: http://zarq.livejournal.com _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://clk.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Republicans Caught on Tape + Intimidation
At 01:58 AM 3/9/2004 -0600 The Fool wrote: http://www.dallasobserver.com/issues/2004-03-04/news.html/1/index.html Congressional candidate Mike Murphy feels the strong arm of the GOP BY JOHN GONZALEZ Death Threats? Klansmen? Even for you, Fool, your subject line was ridiculous. JDG ___ John D. Giorgis - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The liberty we prize is not America's gift to the world, it is God's gift to humanity. - George W. Bush 1/29/03 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: OSC
And, maybe ya'll should get a clue about genius, and not demand that it conform to your teenie weenie minds. (The emphasis on weenie here. Teenie is taken for granted). You've contributed nothing as grand as Ender's Game or Speaker for the Dead. You judge people whose shoes you can't tie, much less fill. At least, have the decency to make specific counterarguments instead of retreating into your reliable coffeehouse snide-itudinosity. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Edmunds Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 6:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OSC From: Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OSC Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 15:29:38 -0800 Maybe we should suggest he read his own book. G -- Doug Or at least the part when Ender starts to feel bad. -Travis _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994; DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Tyranny
The Fool wrote: From: Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] You know, when I witness the joy that the San Fransisco initiative has brought to those that have hertofore been unable to make their love for each other official (however temporal it's legitimacy),it makes me wonder how on earth good-hearted people can be against this kind of thing. Simple. Religion = Hate. When I first read this post, I thought that William Goodall had posted it... Maybe he has a convert! ;-) -- Matt ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Bush Administration suckered?
Robert J. Chassell wrote: (snip) Presuming either that the US invaded Iraq in order to intimidate other Moslem countries, as I think, or to destroy dangerous weapons, or to enforce a mandatory UN resolution, or, as enemies of the Adminstration claim, in order to delay the pricing of oil in Euros and to gain contracts in Iraq for US companies -- presuming any or all of these reasons, the US looks at the moment to be gaining less than Iran has gained. This is the issue. Has anyone considered that the U.S. wants to have the ability to project power in that region, and that the enironment for doing so from bases in Saudi Arabia is taking a turn for the worse. Regardless of how the Iraqi government shapes up, we will have to maintain forces in Iraq to help defend their borders for a long time to come. How convienent... -- Matt ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Spaulding Gray
Seems like ages since I've posted to the list... been very busy with work. Just saw the news that Spaulding Gray is dead, as has been feared since he disappeared in January. I'm not sure his work is for everybody here, but I certainly enjoyed it all, even though the degree of personal transparency in some of his monologues seemed a bit over the top for a public performance. I had the privilege of knowing him a bit. My favorite Spaulding moment was when he started talking about John Perry Barlow during a performance, then found out that Barlow was in the audience and asked him to join him. Suddenly it was an interview, in which Spaulding more or less dragged John into a bit more transparency than perhaps he'd have wished (certainly far more than most people would want), but John took it in good sport. If you haven't seen it, I'd urge you to give his film Swimming to Cambodia a try, if only to take a chance that you, like many other people, will discover that you actually can watch a man sit at a desk and talk for a couple of hours without becoming bored. Nick -- Nick Arnett Director, Business Intelligence Services LiveWorld Inc. Phone/fax: (408) 551-0427 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Where Dubya Really Went in 1972
http://www.workingforchange.com/comic.cfm?itemid=16560 -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ Misuse of IMPs leads to strange, difficult-to-diagnose bugs. - Anguish et al. Cocoa Programming ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: I think I almost died last night
From: Jon Gabriel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your symptoms do sound as if they may have had an element of GERD to them. If you're interested, I have a ton of links pertaining to it. I take medication for reflux myself. And if you want even more information, I had the GERD stomach surgery back in September (Laproscopic Nissen Fundoplication, to be exact). Not that you want to be thinking about that, I'm sure. I'll admit that I never had that particular symptom of GERD. But I would wake up in the middle of the night and think that someone was trying to pick me up with an old-time ice block grabber-thingie. - jmh ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: I think I almost died last night
From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: I think I almost died last night Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 14:35:29 -0600 Something very unusual and frightening happened to me last night. SNIP I've never had anything like this happen before. xponent Deaths Prey Maru rob Being reminded of your own mortality isn't the most pleasant experience in the world is it? Then again, it can serve to keep you grounded in some respects. In any case, I'm glad you're still with us. -Travis _ Free yourself from those irritating pop-up ads with MSn Premium. Get 2months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes
Mike Lee wrote: Erik came up with a modest proposal to help the poor pay their fair share: So tax color TV's and microwave ovens, if you can. And woofers. And anything made by Hostess. And fake fingernails. The National Enquirer. Velvet Elvis paintings. Burritos from 7-ll. Come to think of it, the poor are mostly responsible for each and every esthetic and culinary outrage perpetrated in America for the last 50 years. Just leave Taco Bell alone. I like Taco Bell. Interestingly enough, what I like to get at Taco Bell runs to being more expensive than what I like at most other fast food establishments. :) I don't get it very often, though, because the most convenient one got torn down to build a highway, and while I'm hoping that there will be a new Taco Bell not too far from where the old one was, it wouldn't be going in until construction was done in at least the *immediate* area. (So I'm stuck with Sonic and Wendy's, mostly, for now. Sonic is OK, they do a decent grilled cheese sandwich, IMO.) Oh, btw, where does Weekly World News fall in that list? Taxable? It's the only one that's really entertaining. Let them eat cake They don't eat cake. You know why? (a) To eat cake, one must save up $8 all at once to buy one at Albertson's. The poor can only save up that much all at once to buy drugs. I can get sliced pound cake at Albertson's for $3. And they have several types of pound cake available. (b) To eat cake, because Albertson's is closed before you get out of bed for the day, you must go to a 24 hour market and buy a cake recipe, eggs, milk, and a bowl, at the premium they charge poor people who refuse to conform their schedules to those of normal grocery stores. And a wisk. And clean all the dirty dishes and used condoms out of the oven unless you want the cake to taste funny. Worse than that, to bake a cake one must read and follow simple directions without considering it a mortal affront to one's dig-nuh-tee. Um, while the *nearest* Albertson's may not be open 24 hours, there are a couple of them in what now passes (at least for me) as reasonable driving distance that are. And I think that one of the HEB stores near me is open 24 hours, and I can buy pound cake there, cupcakes for something like $3 or $5 for a package of 12, and cake mix and eggs and oil and whatever else. But the really, really good cake at HEB is $14.99. And it has a few malted milk balls on top. (So now anyone close to an HEB store can figure out what my favorite kind of cake is.) (c) Cake isn't made by Hostess. Hostess says they make cake, but that just proves that the government can't protect us against anything. I assume that Drake's and Little Debbie fall under that, as well? :) (d) If a poor person really had a real cake, they wouldn't know how to serve it up, because they know better than to pull out a knife in the house while everyone else is hungry with their cake-jones on. A dull knife might do, and why not just do the barbarian thing and rip into it with your bare hands? I've seen cake-cutting jobs that were about as bad as that would be (OK, maybe I'm exaggerating a little, but still) Julia whose father grew up dirt-poor, and at least 4 of his mother's 6 children went to college, if not more ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Tyranny
On 9 Mar 2004, at 3:33 pm, Matt Grimaldi wrote: The Fool wrote: Simple. Religion = Hate. When I first read this post, I thought that William Goodall had posted it... That could have been written by anyone whose mind was unclouded by the obnoxious poison of religion. Maybe he has a convert! ;-) That would be nice :) -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ Aerospace is plumbing with the volume turned up. - John Carmack ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Paul Winfield, RIP
Paul Winfield has died. An emmy winning character actor who'd also been nominated for an Oscar, he guest-starred on Star Trek (He was Cap't Terrell in The Wrath of Khan) and Babylon 5 among others. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0934902/ Article on his career is here: http://tinyurl.com/34u94 Jon Le Blog: http://zarq.livejournal.com _ Learn how to help protect your privacy and prevent fraud online at Tech Hacks Scams. http://special.msn.com/msnbc/techsafety.armx ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Spaulding Gray
Nick Arnett wrote: If you haven't seen it, I'd urge you to give his film Swimming to Cambodia a try, if only to take a chance that you, like many other people, will discover that you actually can watch a man sit at a desk and talk for a couple of hours without becoming bored. I'll second the recommendation of Swimming to Cambodia. I liked it very much. And as for sitting at the desk, in the movie, the desk was got at various angles and with various lighting effects that added to the monologue. I saw him once in Austin, in 2000. We had tickets to see him last spring, but first we couldn't make the date, so we gave the tickets to a friend; then he couldn't make it to Austin, so it was indefinitely postponed and we got the tickets back; then it was altogether cancelled, so we didn't get to see him at all, and now we never will. :( Julia slowly going insane (my usual weekday help is sick today) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: OSC
From: Mike Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Killer Bs Discussion' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OSC Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 20:54:24 -0800 And, maybe ya'll should get a clue about genius, and not demand that it conform to your teenie weenie minds. (The emphasis on weenie here. Teenie is taken for granted). You've contributed nothing as grand as Ender's Game or Speaker for the Dead. You judge people whose shoes you can't tie, much less fill. At least, have the decency to make specific counterarguments instead of retreating into your reliable coffeehouse snide-itudinosity. You know, I probably would have made some type of argument, but instead I made a joke. Besides, if you can discern my thoughts based on the following - Or at least the part when Ender starts to feel bad, then all I should need to type in future engagements with you is a sentance or two. Hey! That's great! Less typing for me. -Travis thanks for the pat on the back Edmunds Oooh. As a side note, I'd like to point out that you contradicted yourself there Mike. You wanna watch out for that kinda stuff. It usually comes with emotionally charged, and spontaneous responses... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Edmunds Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 6:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OSC From: Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OSC Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 15:29:38 -0800 Maybe we should suggest he read his own book. G -- Doug Or at least the part when Ender starts to feel bad. -Travis _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994; DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l _ MSN Premium helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: I think I almost died last night
At 11:36 AM 3/9/2004, you wrote: From: Jon Gabriel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your symptoms do sound as if they may have had an element of GERD to them. If you're interested, I have a ton of links pertaining to it. I take medication for reflux myself. And if you want even more information, I had the GERD stomach surgery back in September (Laproscopic Nissen Fundoplication, to be exact). Not that you want to be thinking about that, I'm sure. I'll admit that I never had that particular symptom of GERD. But I would wake up in the middle of the night and think that someone was trying to pick me up with an old-time ice block grabber-thingie. - jmh I had tests to see if I could have that surgery. My main problem was eating. My esophagus wasn't working rhythmically; food would go so far down and stop. Not a great feeling. The doctor said the surgery would not help me. I'm kind of glad. I'm not afraid of surgeries, I've been cut open six times now, but I just didn't like what they proposed. Why did I get AR at 33? Switching from my poor diet to a (supposedly) good diet when I started biking? Is it my weight, that I gained after switching to the good diet? Some thing will never be answered. Kevin T. - VRWC Pill a day for the rest of my life ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
