[CentOS-docs] Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2

2009-09-14 Thread Martin Boel, Silverbullet
Hi

I would like to contribute to the wiki.centos.org:
username: boel
subject: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2
location: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Nagios
content: A security feature of centos 5.2 SELinux prevents the access 
from the apache httpd server to the needed /var/nagios files. The error 
manifests itself in the /var/log/messages as SELinux is preventing the 
tac.cgi from using potentially mislabeled files ./status.dat (var_t). A 
workaround is to execute the command: chcon -R httpd_sys_content_t 
/var/nagios

Please grant me access

Regards
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2

2009-09-14 Thread Ralph Angenendt

On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 16:11 +0200, Martin Boel, Silverbullet wrote:
 Hi
 
 I would like to contribute to the wiki.centos.org:
 username: boel

Hmmm. We really do prefer FirstnameLastname.

 subject: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2
 location: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Nagios
 content: A security feature of centos 5.2 SELinux prevents the access 
 from the apache httpd server to the needed /var/nagios files. The error 
 manifests itself in the /var/log/messages as SELinux is preventing the 
 tac.cgi from using potentially mislabeled files ./status.dat (var_t). A 
 workaround is to execute the command: chcon -R httpd_sys_content_t 
 /var/nagios

Is that still the case in 5.3?

Ralph

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2

2009-09-14 Thread Christoph Maser
Am Montag, den 14.09.2009, 16:15 +0200 schrieb Ralph Angenendt:
 On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 16:11 +0200, Martin Boel, Silverbullet wrote:
  Hi
 
  I would like to contribute to the wiki.centos.org:
  username: boel

 Hmmm. We really do prefer FirstnameLastname.

  subject: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2
  location: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Nagios
  content: A security feature of centos 5.2 SELinux prevents the access
  from the apache httpd server to the needed /var/nagios files. The error
  manifests itself in the /var/log/messages as SELinux is preventing the
  tac.cgi from using potentially mislabeled files ./status.dat (var_t). A
  workaround is to execute the command: chcon -R httpd_sys_content_t
  /var/nagios

 Is that still the case in 5.3?

 Ralph



And also does that solve all problems with nagios? What about plugin
execution or external command files? I rather think you should use the
contexts
 - system_u:object_r:nagios_log_t:s0
 - system_u:object_r:nagios_spool_t:s0
 - system_u:object_r:nagios_exec_t:s0
 - system_u:object_r:nrpe_etc_t:s0
 - system_u:object_r:httpd_nagios_script_exec_t:s0

Actually it would be propably up to me to set these correctly in the
rpmforge package
Maybe some selinux guru can help me out?


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2

2009-09-14 Thread Max Hetrick
Martin Boel, Silverbullet wrote:
 Hi
 
 I would like to contribute to the wiki.centos.org:
 username: boel
 subject: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2
 location: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Nagios
 content: A security feature of centos 5.2 SELinux prevents the access 
 from the apache httpd server to the needed /var/nagios files. The error 
 manifests itself in the /var/log/messages as SELinux is preventing the 
 tac.cgi from using potentially mislabeled files ./status.dat (var_t). A 
 workaround is to execute the command: chcon -R httpd_sys_content_t 
 /var/nagios
 

When I wrote the Nagios guide, it was easier and recommended to just 
turn SELinux off before going about installing and using Nagios. Seems 
that the Nagios doc site has some information now in regards to SELinux, 
but I never went back to visit that topic.

http://wiki.nagios.org/index.php/Selinux

Perhaps these can be incorporated into the guide if they are verified to 
work?

Regards,
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2

2009-09-14 Thread Christoph Maser
Am Montag, den 14.09.2009, 16:37 +0200 schrieb Ralph Angenendt:
 On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 16:24 +0200, Christoph Maser wrote:
  Am Montag, den 14.09.2009, 16:15 +0200 schrieb Ralph Angenendt:
   On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 16:11 +0200, Martin Boel, Silverbullet wrote:
workaround is to execute the command: chcon -R httpd_sys_content_t
/var/nagios
  
   Is that still the case in 5.3?
 
  And also does that solve all problems with nagios? What about plugin
  execution or external command files? I rather think you should use the
  contexts
   - system_u:object_r:nagios_log_t:s0
   - system_u:object_r:nagios_spool_t:s0
   - system_u:object_r:nagios_exec_t:s0
   - system_u:object_r:nrpe_etc_t:s0
   - system_u:object_r:httpd_nagios_script_exec_t:s0
 
  Actually it would be propably up to me to set these correctly in the
  rpmforge package
  Maybe some selinux guru can help me out?

 I'd say take a sneak peak into Fedoraland, but their SELinux is a tad
 more advanced than what we have.

 You know that you'd have to write a *complete* policy for containing
 Nagios that way? Can nagios even be seen as its own application
 deserving its own domain or isn't much of nagios run from apache anyway
 which would mean that you'd need the apache policies in place?

 Ralph
Erm these contexts already are in CentOS. So i guess the policy is
too...


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Re: [CentOS-docs] proposed nvidia wiki page

2009-09-14 Thread Phil Schaffner
lostson wrote:
 On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 23:39 -0400, JohnS wrote:
...

 [1] http://wiki.centos.org/HardwareList/Nvidia_Graphics

 JohnStanley

  I was reading yours over today and yes they are very similar, hopefully
 i can get edit permissions soon and we can get it all squared away.

Might want to have a look at this forum post - did a pretty detailed 
procedure.

https://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=85280topic_id=22003forum=39#forumpost85280

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2

2009-09-14 Thread Ralph Angenendt

On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 16:24 +0200, Christoph Maser wrote:
 Am Montag, den 14.09.2009, 16:15 +0200 schrieb Ralph Angenendt:
  On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 16:11 +0200, Martin Boel, Silverbullet wrote:
   workaround is to execute the command: chcon -R httpd_sys_content_t
   /var/nagios
 
  Is that still the case in 5.3?
 
 And also does that solve all problems with nagios? What about plugin
 execution or external command files? I rather think you should use the
 contexts
  - system_u:object_r:nagios_log_t:s0
  - system_u:object_r:nagios_spool_t:s0
  - system_u:object_r:nagios_exec_t:s0
  - system_u:object_r:nrpe_etc_t:s0
  - system_u:object_r:httpd_nagios_script_exec_t:s0
 
 Actually it would be propably up to me to set these correctly in the
 rpmforge package
 Maybe some selinux guru can help me out?

I'd say take a sneak peak into Fedoraland, but their SELinux is a tad
more advanced than what we have.

You know that you'd have to write a *complete* policy for containing
Nagios that way? Can nagios even be seen as its own application
deserving its own domain or isn't much of nagios run from apache anyway
which would mean that you'd need the apache policies in place?

Ralph

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Re: [CentOS-docs] proposed nvidia wiki page

2009-09-14 Thread Scott Robbins
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 01:09:43PM -0400, Phil Schaffner wrote:
 lostson wrote:
  On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 23:39 -0400, JohnS wrote:
 ...
 
  [1] http://wiki.centos.org/HardwareList/Nvidia_Graphics
 
  JohnStanley
 
   I was reading yours over today and yes they are very similar, hopefully
  i can get edit permissions soon and we can get it all squared away.
 
 Might want to have a look at this forum post - did a pretty detailed 
 procedure.
 
 https://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=85280topic_id=22003forum=39#forumpost85280
 
 Phil

Over the weekend, I played with the elrepo-testing version.  It was
pretty much (after having installed the nvidia drivers from NVidia)

nvidia-uninstall

to get rid of what I'd downloaded. 

Then 

yum --disablerepo=* --enablerepo=elrepo-testing install kmod-nvidia

which pulls in the driver as well, of course. 

The first time I tried it, there seemed to be a module mismatch, perhaps
from cruft left around from a previous NVidia install, along the lines
of conflict between 185.31 and 185.36 or something similar. After
clearing out the old NVidia (vs. nv) modules, that were left after this
older install/uninstall, the above solution worked well, and is, of
course, easier. 

Main advantage, I think is the kmod part, so that if one plays around
with different kernels, it should be taken care of--in theory at least
haven't tried different kernels yet. 



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Re: [CentOS-docs] HowTos/PXE/PXE_Setup add?

2009-09-14 Thread Ed Heron
From: Vitor Afonso Strabello, Friday, September 11, 2009 5:51 PM

Also I got one link about this. I think that is better a checkou, not sure 
if this will be usefult:

http://www.linux-mag.com/id/6747

Have a nice weekend,

Vitor

  Yes, that is an excellent article.  It has a a few things specific to 
their setup, though.  They have multiple subnets.  They provide IP addresses 
only for defined machines;  They must have a separate mechanism for other 
machines.  Of course, the extra information can be useful as an extensive 
example, provided the person using it can filter out what they don't need.

  Thank you for the reference.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] proposed nvidia wiki page

2009-09-14 Thread Ned Slider
Phil Schaffner wrote:
 lostson wrote:
 On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 23:39 -0400, JohnS wrote:
 ...
 [1] http://wiki.centos.org/HardwareList/Nvidia_Graphics

 JohnStanley

  I was reading yours over today and yes they are very similar, hopefully
 i can get edit permissions soon and we can get it all squared away.
 
 Might want to have a look at this forum post - did a pretty detailed 
 procedure.
 
 https://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=85280topic_id=22003forum=39#forumpost85280
 
 Phil

Do we need to decide what the official (or preferred) CentOS Way is for 
this? Or do we just present all the options without prejudice?

There are (to my knowledge) the Nvidia binary installer, dkms driver 
from rpmforge, kmdl package from ATrpms, and a kmod driver from elrepo.

I should probably declare a conflict of interests so I'll just ask the 
question rather than providing opinion towards the answer :)

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Re: [CentOS-docs] proposed nvidia wiki page

2009-09-14 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Scott Robbins scot...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

 Over the weekend, I played with the elrepo-testing version.  It was
 pretty much (after having installed the nvidia drivers from NVidia)

 nvidia-uninstall

 to get rid of what I'd downloaded.

 Then

 yum --disablerepo=* --enablerepo=elrepo-testing install kmod-nvidia

 which pulls in the driver as well, of course.

 Main advantage, I think is the kmod part, so that if one plays around
 with different kernels, it should be taken care of--in theory at least
 haven't tried different kernels yet.

Indeed, I updated a system loaded with kmod-nvidia to the 5.4 kernel
and it worked seamlessly.  No need to rebuild the driver.

Akemi
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Re: [CentOS-docs] proposed nvidia wiki page

2009-09-14 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Am 14.09.09 19:23, schrieb Ned Slider:
 Do we need to decide what the official (or preferred) CentOS Way is for 
 this? Or do we just present all the options without prejudice?
 
 There are (to my knowledge) the Nvidia binary installer, dkms driver 
 from rpmforge, kmdl package from ATrpms, and a kmod driver from elrepo.

I'd say the official way depends on which repo you use :)

If you use atrpms anyway, because you need asterisk, then get the driver
from there. If you use ...

Cheers,

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Re: [CentOS-virt] High CPU usage when running a CentOS guestinVirtualBox

2009-09-14 Thread Hildebrand, Nils, 232
Hi Akemi,

KVM uses a para-virtualized approach?

With para-virtualized guests or with 32-bit guests running a single CPU
there is no need to simulate the IO-APIC.

Kind regards

Nils 

 -Original Message-
 From: centos-virt-boun...@centos.org 
 [mailto:centos-virt-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Akemi Yagi
 Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 6:15 PM
 To: Discussion about the virtualization on CentOS
 Subject: Re: [CentOS-virt] High CPU usage when running a 
 CentOS guestinVirtualBox
 
 On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:33 AM, Hildebrand, Nils, 
 232nils.hildebr...@bamf.bund.de wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I just closed a service-request with sun.
  Topic: Why is Win32 slower running with two CPUs under VBox 3 than 
  running with one CPU on VBox 2?
 
  I am running VBox on CentOS 5 64 bit (AMD Athlon Dual Core).
 
  The problem is - according to sun - the IO-APIC-emulation:
  On 32-bit-systems this io-apic-emulation (needed for passing 
  interrupts between CPUs) has to use a full 
 software-context-switching 
  - making things slow.
 
  I tried recreating the problem with CentOS 5 64 Bit as VM, 
 two CPUs: 
  no problem With CentOS 5 32 Bit as VM: same problem.
 
  I guess some problems with multi-cpu-VMs using 
  32-bit-operating-systems on a 64-bit hardware are related 
 to this - no 
  matter if you are using xen (fully virtualized), VirtualBox 
 or VMWare.
 
 Interesting.  I do not have any 32-bit multi-cpu VMs myself, 
 but I do have access to such guests running on a host 
 (64-bit) using kvm.  Both
 CentOS-5 32-bit VM and CentOS-4 32-bit VM show normal load 
 (near 100% idle on all cpus).  They have the divider=10 
 option by the way.
 
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Re: [CentOS-virt] High CPU usage when running a CentOS guestinVirtualBox

2009-09-14 Thread Dennis J.
On 09/14/2009 04:53 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 7:24 AM, Hildebrand, Nils, 232
 nils.hildebr...@bamf.bund.de  wrote:
 Hi Akemi,

 KVM uses a para-virtualized approach?

 Not at this moment according to this Red Hat virtualization guide:

 http://www.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5.4/html/Virtualization_Guide/chap-Virtualization-Guest_operating_system_installation_procedures.html#sect-Virtualization-Installing_Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux_5_as_a_para_virtualized_guest

Ugh, I guess that means my plans to switch from Xen to KVM have to wait 
until RHEL 6 is released.

I wondering why that is though. Since 5.3 the kernel comes with the virtio 
drivers and you can install it paravirtualized under e.g. Fedora 11 so I'm 
not sure what actually prevents PV from working in KVM in 5.4.

Regards,
   Dennis
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Re: [CentOS-virt] High CPU usage when running a CentOS guestinVirtualBox

2009-09-14 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 7:24 AM, Hildebrand, Nils, 232
nils.hildebr...@bamf.bund.de wrote:
 Hi Akemi,

 KVM uses a para-virtualized approach?

Not at this moment according to this Red Hat virtualization guide:

http://www.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5.4/html/Virtualization_Guide/chap-Virtualization-Guest_operating_system_installation_procedures.html#sect-Virtualization-Installing_Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux_5_as_a_para_virtualized_guest

Akemi
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[CentOS-es] Selección de un servidor DHCP

2009-09-14 Thread Eduardo Grosclaude
Hola,
Tengo dos segmentos de red, anteriormente separados, cada uno con su
DHCP server, que han sido unidos por un vínculo inalámbrico en modo
bridge. Ahora necesito que las estaciones Ubuntu 8.10 en el segmento A
acepten solamente las ofertas DHCP del servidor en el segmento B. Para
esto he tratado de usar una opción definida por el usuario:

En /etc/dhcpd.conf:

 option x-dcc-server code 241 = boolean;
 option x-dcc-server true;

(También probé con on en lugar true, el manual dice que ambos valen).

En /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf de los clientes:

 option x-dcc-server code 241 = boolean;
 require x-dcc-server;

Los clientes dicen DHCP offer from X.X.X.X: no x-dcc-server option.
Lo cual es completamente correcto ya que con un sniffer, no veo rastro
alguno de la opción x-dcc-server en los paquetes de oferta de este
servidor.
He probado poner la sentencia option x-dcc-server true (y su
variante con on) en los ámbitos global, de red y de host en la
configuración del server, pero no aparece nada. ¿Qué estoy haciendo
mal? O bien, ¿qué me falta probar?
Desde ya muchas gracias!

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Re: [CentOS-es] no veo el Webmin desde otra pc conectada a mi LAN, solo se ve localmente.....

2009-09-14 Thread Juan Pablo Botero
Saludos.

SELInux rules :P

#setup - Firewall configuration - Boton Customize, allí agregas el puerto
del webmin

2009/9/14 Enrique Quezada equez...@kike.ath.cx


  Hola, otra vez molestandolos despues de no encontrar una
  solucion...acabo de instalar webmin 1.480 en un servidor con centos
  5.3, en  el proceso de instalacion ningun inconveniente, lo probe
  accediendo  desde el mismo equipo y todo ok, pero no se puede acceder
  desde otro equipo de la red. De todas formas revise la configuracion del
  webmin la parte donde se indica desde que parte de la red o ips puede ser
  accedido y esta por defecto desde cualquier ip, pero aun asi no
  funciona.
  tambien me fije en el Firewall de Linux y habilite las conexiones https
  pero igual sigue sin funcionarSaben cual podria ser el problema o si
  hay que configurar algo adicional...

 Hola, pienso que puede ser que tengas filtrado o cerrado el puerto 1,
 que es el que por defecto utiliza webmin, no obstante que mencionas que ya
 revisaste las reglas iptables.

 Desde la propia máquina no va a tener dificultad de acceso, pero en el
 caso de otras máquinas de la lan o desde internet no podrás acceder, si
 esto no esta comprobado y configurado.

 Saludos.




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[CentOS-es] Problema de logueo

2009-09-14 Thread Luis Estrella

Hola amigos buenos dias, les escribo en primer lugar para saludarlos y 
anticipadamente agradecerles por la ayuda que me puedan brindar, tengo un 
servidor IBM serie 3200 con sistema operativo CentOS 5.3, y a la ves tengo 3 
usuarios con Sistema Operativo Ubuntu 9.04 Juanty, por favor e trado de 
logearme desde estos usuarios al servidor y no puedo ya e probado con Niss y 
con DAP y nos e que mas hacer por favor a ver si mepueden ayudar con este 
problema que ya tengo como dos semanas tratado de resolverlo

 

Gracias a todos 

 

Atte

 

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Re: [CentOS-es] no veo el Webmin desde otra pc conectada a mi LAN, solo se ve localmente.....

2009-09-14 Thread Fernando Rojas
 ¿te aparece el puerto 1 abierto cuando das por ejemplo un nmap a tu
servidor desde otra computadora? O con algún otro escaner que te diga cuales
puertos están abiertos.
 
mensaje original-
De: Sociedad Peruana del Climaterio i...@climaterio.org.pe
Para: centos-es@centos.org
Fecha: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:29:30 -0500
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 Hola, otra vez molestandolos despues de no encontrar una
solucion...acabo 
 de instalar webmin 1.480 en un servidor con centos 5.3, en el proceso de 
 instalacion ningun inconveniente, lo probe accediendo desde el mismo
equipo y 
 todo ok, pero no se puede acceder desde otro equipo de la red. De todas
formas 
 revise la configuracion del webmin la parte donde se indica desde que
parte de la 
 red o ips puede ser accedido y esta por defecto desde cualquier ip, pero
aun asi no 
 funciona. tambien me fije en el Firewall de Linux y habilite las
conexiones https 
 pero igual sigue sin funcionarSaben cual podria ser el problema o si
hay que 
 configurar algo adicional...
 

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[CentOS-es] no veo el Webmin desde otra pc conectada a mi LAN, solo se ve localmente.....

2009-09-14 Thread Sociedad Peruana del Climaterio
Hola, otra vez molestandolos despues de no encontrar una solucion...acabo 
de instalar webmin 1.480 en un servidor con centos 5.3, en  el proceso de 
instalacion ningun inconveniente, lo probe accediendo  desde el mismo equipo y 
todo ok, pero no se puede acceder desde otro equipo de la red. De todas formas 
revise la configuracion del webmin la parte donde se indica desde que parte de 
la red o ips puede ser  accedido y esta por defecto desde cualquier ip, pero 
aun asi no  funciona. tambien me fije en el Firewall de Linux y habilite las 
conexiones https pero igual sigue sin funcionarSaben cual podria ser el 
problema o si hay que configurar algo adicional...
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Re: [CentOS-es] no veo el Webmin desde otra pc conectada a mi LAN, solo se ve localmente.....

2009-09-14 Thread Enrique Quezada

 Hola, otra vez molestandolos despues de no encontrar una
 solucion...acabo de instalar webmin 1.480 en un servidor con centos
 5.3, en  el proceso de instalacion ningun inconveniente, lo probe
 accediendo  desde el mismo equipo y todo ok, pero no se puede acceder
 desde otro equipo de la red. De todas formas revise la configuracion del
 webmin la parte donde se indica desde que parte de la red o ips puede ser
 accedido y esta por defecto desde cualquier ip, pero aun asi no  funciona.
 tambien me fije en el Firewall de Linux y habilite las conexiones https
 pero igual sigue sin funcionarSaben cual podria ser el problema o si
 hay que configurar algo adicional...

Hola, pienso que puede ser que tengas filtrado o cerrado el puerto 1,
que es el que por defecto utiliza webmin, no obstante que mencionas que ya
revisaste las reglas iptables.

Desde la propia máquina no va a tener dificultad de acceso, pero en el
caso de otras máquinas de la lan o desde internet no podrás acceder, si
esto no esta comprobado y configurado.

Saludos.




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Re: [CentOS-es] no veo el Webmin desde otra pc conectada a mi LAN, solo se ve localmente.....

2009-09-14 Thread Hector Martínez Romo
¿en el firewall tienes permitido las  conexiones al puerto 1?

El 14 de septiembre de 2009 11:29, Sociedad Peruana del Climaterio 
i...@climaterio.org.pe escribió:

  Hola, otra vez molestandolos despues de no encontrar una
 solucion...acabo de instalar webmin 1.480 en un servidor con centos 5.3,
 en  el proceso de instalacion ningun inconveniente, lo probe accediendo
 desde el mismo equipo y todo ok, pero no se puede acceder desde otro equipo
 de la red. De todas formas revise la configuracion del webmin la parte donde
 se indica desde que parte de la red o ips puede ser  accedido y esta por
 defecto desde cualquier ip, pero aun asi no  funciona. tambien me fije en el
 Firewall de Linux y habilite las conexiones https pero igual sigue sin
 funcionarSaben cual podria ser el problema o si hay que configurar
 algo adicional...

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Re: [CentOS-es] Selección de un servidor DHCP (RES UELTO)

2009-09-14 Thread Eduardo Grosclaude
2009/9/14 Eduardo Grosclaude eduardo.groscla...@gmail.com:
 Hola,
 Tengo dos segmentos de red, anteriormente separados, cada uno con su
 DHCP server, que han sido unidos por un vínculo inalámbrico en modo
 bridge. Ahora necesito que las estaciones Ubuntu 8.10 en el segmento A
 acepten solamente las ofertas DHCP del servidor en el segmento B. Para
 esto he tratado de usar una opción definida por el usuario:

 En /etc/dhcpd.conf:

     option x-dcc-server code 241 = boolean;
     option x-dcc-server true;

 (También probé con on en lugar true, el manual dice que ambos valen).

 En /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf de los clientes:

     option x-dcc-server code 241 = boolean;
     require x-dcc-server;

 Los clientes dicen DHCP offer from X.X.X.X: no x-dcc-server option.
 Lo cual es completamente correcto ya que con un sniffer, no veo rastro
 alguno de la opción x-dcc-server en los paquetes de oferta de este
 servidor.
 He probado poner la sentencia option x-dcc-server true (y su
 variante con on) en los ámbitos global, de red y de host en la
 configuración del server, pero no aparece nada. ¿Qué estoy haciendo
 mal? O bien, ¿qué me falta probar?
 Desde ya muchas gracias!

Uf. En el cliente hace falta agregar:

 request x-dcc-server;

Eso era todo.



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Re: [CentOS-es] no veo el Webmin desde otra pc conectada a mi LAN, solo se ve localmente.....

2009-09-14 Thread Sociedad Peruana del Climaterio
Muchas gracias a todos, exactamente como me dijeron, tuve que habilitar el 
puerto 1 y todo funciono a la perfeccion.

Muchas gracias.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Juan Pablo Botero 
  To: centos-es@centos.org 
  Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 11:32 AM
  Subject: Re: [CentOS-es] no veo el Webmin desde otra pc conectada a mi 
LAN,solo se ve localmente.


  Saludos.

  SELInux rules :P

  #setup - Firewall configuration - Boton Customize, allí agregas el puerto 
del webmin


  2009/9/14 Enrique Quezada equez...@kike.ath.cx


 Hola, otra vez molestandolos despues de no encontrar una
 solucion...acabo de instalar webmin 1.480 en un servidor con centos
 5.3, en  el proceso de instalacion ningun inconveniente, lo probe
 accediendo  desde el mismo equipo y todo ok, pero no se puede acceder
 desde otro equipo de la red. De todas formas revise la configuracion del
 webmin la parte donde se indica desde que parte de la red o ips puede ser
 accedido y esta por defecto desde cualquier ip, pero aun asi no  funciona.
 tambien me fije en el Firewall de Linux y habilite las conexiones https
 pero igual sigue sin funcionarSaben cual podria ser el problema o si
 hay que configurar algo adicional...


Hola, pienso que puede ser que tengas filtrado o cerrado el puerto 1,
que es el que por defecto utiliza webmin, no obstante que mencionas que ya
revisaste las reglas iptables.

Desde la propia máquina no va a tener dificultad de acceso, pero en el
caso de otras máquinas de la lan o desde internet no podrás acceder, si
esto no esta comprobado y configurado.

Saludos.




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Re: [CentOS-es] Proposición Canal IRC y Sitio Web [OT]

2009-09-14 Thread I.S.C. William Lopez Jimenez
NAda mal muy buena tu propuesta ... por ni no hay problema !! a ver que
dicen los demas compañeros

El 14 de septiembre de 2009 15:57, Enrique Quezada
equez...@kike.ath.cxescribió:

 Hola todos, quería proponerles complementar el importante soporte que
 colaborativo que mantenemos en forma diaria en la lista de correos en
 español, mediante la creación de un sitio web, para el cual ofrezco mis
 servidores para el hosting (sin costo por supuesto) y además participar
 activamente del Canal IRC de la red OFTC (irc.oftc.net), canal #centos-es.
 Solo sería necesario para el sitio web, un dominio que podríamos discutir,
 ya que http://www.centos-es.org está utilizado o como segunda opción
 contactar al administrador de este e invitarle a mejorar el proyecto, que
 por el momento cuenta solo con un foro.

 Creo que para los usuarios de habla hispana, sería muy útil y podríamos
 también de ese modo lograr unir más a la comunidad.

 ¿Qué les parece? yo estoy llano en ayudar en todo aspecto.

 Un gran saludo y gracias por las sugerencias que pudieran aportar.

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Re: [CentOS-es] Proposición Canal IRC y Sitio Web [OT]

2009-09-14 Thread Mario Villela Larraza
Pues yo aunque soy novato en linux, apoyo la prouesta

El día 14 de septiembre de 2009 17:51, I.S.C. William Lopez Jimenez
william.koalas...@gmail.com escribió:
 NAda mal muy buena tu propuesta ... por ni no hay problema !! a ver que
 dicen los demas compañeros

 El 14 de septiembre de 2009 15:57, Enrique Quezada equez...@kike.ath.cx
 escribió:

 Hola todos, quería proponerles complementar el importante soporte que
 colaborativo que mantenemos en forma diaria en la lista de correos en
 español, mediante la creación de un sitio web, para el cual ofrezco mis
 servidores para el hosting (sin costo por supuesto) y además participar
 activamente del Canal IRC de la red OFTC (irc.oftc.net), canal #centos-es.
 Solo sería necesario para el sitio web, un dominio que podríamos discutir,
 ya que http://www.centos-es.org está utilizado o como segunda opción
 contactar al administrador de este e invitarle a mejorar el proyecto, que
 por el momento cuenta solo con un foro.

 Creo que para los usuarios de habla hispana, sería muy útil y podríamos
 también de ese modo lograr unir más a la comunidad.

 ¿Qué les parece? yo estoy llano en ayudar en todo aspecto.

 Un gran saludo y gracias por las sugerencias que pudieran aportar.

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Re: [CentOS-es] Proposición Canal IRC y Sitio Web [OT]

2009-09-14 Thread Sociedad Peruana del Climaterio
Bueno yo tambien soy novato y acabo de bajarme un cliente de IRC  e 
instalarlo, ingrese al canal y converse con el artifice de esta propuesta, 
la cual suena mas que interesante ya que podria ser un punto de encuentro 
mas para todos los usuarios tanto noveles como expertos en Centos.

Slds.


- Original Message - 
From: Mario Villela Larraza mario.villelalarr...@gmail.com
To: centos-es@centos.org
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: [CentOS-es]Proposición Canal IRC y Sitio Web [OT]


Pues yo aunque soy novato en linux, apoyo la prouesta

El día 14 de septiembre de 2009 17:51, I.S.C. William Lopez Jimenez
william.koalas...@gmail.com escribió:
 NAda mal muy buena tu propuesta ... por ni no hay problema !! a ver que
 dicen los demas compañeros

 El 14 de septiembre de 2009 15:57, Enrique Quezada equez...@kike.ath.cx
 escribió:

 Hola todos, quería proponerles complementar el importante soporte que
 colaborativo que mantenemos en forma diaria en la lista de correos en
 español, mediante la creación de un sitio web, para el cual ofrezco mis
 servidores para el hosting (sin costo por supuesto) y además participar
 activamente del Canal IRC de la red OFTC (irc.oftc.net), canal 
 #centos-es.
 Solo sería necesario para el sitio web, un dominio que podríamos 
 discutir,
 ya que http://www.centos-es.org está utilizado o como segunda opción
 contactar al administrador de este e invitarle a mejorar el proyecto, que
 por el momento cuenta solo con un foro.

 Creo que para los usuarios de habla hispana, sería muy útil y podríamos
 también de ese modo lograr unir más a la comunidad.

 ¿Qué les parece? yo estoy llano en ayudar en todo aspecto.

 Un gran saludo y gracias por las sugerencias que pudieran aportar.

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Re: [CentOS-es] Buenas Tardes

2009-09-14 Thread Mario Villela Larraza
Hola busca en este enlace creo que ahi encontraras algo de utilidad

http://www.alcancelibre.org/staticpages/index.php/manuales-indice

El día 14 de septiembre de 2009 16:03, Gisella Rojas Romero
yashag...@gmail.com escribió:
 Gracias por aceptar mi solicitud.

 Necesito la ayuda de un manual como configurar sendmail en centos. seria de
 gran ayuda ya que se trata de un seminario.

 de ante mano muchas gracias

 Saludos

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Re: [CentOS-es] Buenas Tardes

2009-09-14 Thread Victor Padro
2009/9/14 Gisella Rojas Romero yashag...@gmail.com:
 Gracias por aceptar mi solicitud.

 Necesito la ayuda de un manual como configurar sendmail en centos. seria de
 gran ayuda ya que se trata de un seminario.

 de ante mano muchas gracias

 Saludos

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http://www.alcancelibre.org/staticpages/index.php/manuales-indice

Saludos.

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Re: [CentOS-es] Buenas Tardes

2009-09-14 Thread Enrique Quezada

 Gracias por aceptar mi solicitud.

 Necesito la ayuda de un manual como configurar sendmail en centos. seria
 de
 gran ayuda ya que se trata de un seminario.

 de ante mano muchas gracias

 Saludos

 Gisella

Saludos Gisella, mira aquí son dos partes:

http://www.alcancelibre.org/staticpages/index.php/15-como-sendmail-apendice-01

Suerte.

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Re: [CentOS-es] Proposición Canal IRC y Sitio Web [O T]

2009-09-14 Thread Enrique Quezada
 hola
 mira, la gente de centos prefiere tenerlo todo dentro de centos.org y
 así se controlan mejor las cosas. Es mejor para evitar tener que
 coordinar con diversos admins.

 están planeando es.centos.org la idea es ir traduciendo los contenidos.
 Tienen un wiki en español que se puede llenar.

 sobre el irc, tienen en irc.freenode.net tienen un canal: #centos-es al
 que pueden entrar, casi siempre anda vacío. Ahora mismo sólo hay 4
 personas en el chat.

 Sería bueno si podemos activar es.centos.org para ya comenzar a editar
 (andaban probando con fr) y si algunos de uds pueden tomar la posta y
 seguir editando el wiki en español para mejorarlo aún más... pienso

  saludos

Hola, agradezco tu opinión. Estuve mirando el wiki en español
(http://wiki.centos.org/es) y va bastante avanzado, hace tiempo que no lo
visitaba, pero me refería más a una especie de portal de CentOS en
español.

Respecto al canal tienes razón, lo que ocurre es que como bien tu lo
dices, siempre esta sin actividad.

No obstante reitero mis agradecimientos por tus recomendaciones.

Saludos.


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Re: [CentOS] Clarification on Linux CD or DVD Writing

2009-09-14 Thread Balaji
Dear All,
   
I have tried out with cdrecord option and i find out the only the 
disc is erasable and not erasable
information alone and i can't able to find out the disc is empty and 
disc size
Please can any one help me.
Thanks in advance

Regards
-S.Balaji

Robert Heller wrote:

At Fri, 11 Sep 2009 15:21:44 +0530 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org 
wrote:

  

Dear All,
Currently working setup is CentOS4.4 Linux
I tried to google-out, but i can't able to findout

I need some clarification about CD writer support

   1. How can i findout inserted disc is CD or DVD from command line
   2. How can i findout inserted disc is empty from command line
   3. How can i findout inserted disc size (like 700 MB or 4.7 GB) from
  command line



man cdrecord

  

   4. Which writer i can use




Any SCSI or IDE CD/DVD burners, most SATA DVD burners work (but you need
to be able to support the SATA controller!). 


  

Please can any help me
Thanks in Advance.






  

Regards
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Re: [CentOS] abnormal freezes

2009-09-14 Thread Patrick Kirsch
Hey,
attila.ma...@orange-ftgroup.com wrote:

 I’m having a linux box running with Centos 5.3 x86 (kernel
 2.6.18-128.7.1.el5xen)  which is freezing time to time and can’t login
 neither trough console.

 The only thing what I can do, to pass the situation is to power off/on
 the pc.

  

 The pc is used only as a torrent server running with transmission 1.74.

 There are days when 400GB data traffic goes through the pc, and there
 are days when after 50Mb freezes.

  

 What I checked:

 -  Network card doesn’t show any error (netstat –in)

 -  /var/log/messages (nothing serious is mentioned)

 -  Router logs (nothing)

 -  temperature (sensors show normal parameters, which are true
 measured manually also)

  

  

 Do you have any idea how to troubleshoot the situation, what I’m
 missing  ?

A way to get more information about the situation is to increase the
kernel log level and attach a serial console to the host.
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/serial-console.txt helps.
Next when you get the state you can request the system
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/sysrq.txt, I mean you can print out the
active processes and the kernel log buffer.
Afterwards send the logs right back to the list, maybe we can then help
further.

 I’m thinking that there may be some hardware issues, but the thing was
 running fine for 1 month, and didn’t do much beside yum update on it.

If you think of a hardware issue, you should run memcheck. Afterwards
you should stress the remaining lower bandwidth subsystems of the host.

  

  

 Thanks,


 Cheers,

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Re: [CentOS] Problems setting terminal size in termcap/xterm

2009-09-14 Thread Marcelo M. Garcia
Filipe Brandenburger wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 09:55, Marcelo M. Garcia
 marcelo.maia.gar...@googlemail.com wrote:
 I'm trying to set the terminal size in /usr/share/vte/termcap/xterm, but
 it seems that CentOS doesn't look at this file.
 
 Works for me (CentOS 4, opening gnome-terminal).
 
 What does echo $TERM output for you? If it does not output xterm
 that might be the reason why it does not work...
 
 HTH,
 Filipe

Hi
Here is the output of $TERM
 newt (Linux)$ echo $TERM
 xterm
 newt (Linux)$ 

I know this works in RHEL/CentOS 4.x and Fedora 10, but not in CentOS 
5.x (I'm not sure about RHEL 5.x).

The question is if someone else has the same problem.

Thanks

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Re: [CentOS] Repair Filesystem prompt , after inode has illegal blocks

2009-09-14 Thread Ralph Angenendt

On Sun, 2009-09-13 at 22:23 -0400, Robert Heller wrote:
 At Mon, 14 Sep 2009 11:23:19 +1200 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org 
 wrote:
  A fault on our SAN dropped us down to a read-only filesystem 
 
 Just run fsck and follow the prompts.  Do this in single user mode.

That could be fun in a mode without network ... 

But yes, if the machine boots from there, fun will be had.

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[CentOS] [Found] CentOS is dead, long live CentOS

2009-09-14 Thread David Suhendrik
The sound is bad,

/ Lance vanished from the project some time in 2008. Everybody needs 
time off from projects from time to time, so there was no real need to 
worry about that. What there was to worry about is the following: Lance 
is the only one, who can make active changes to the centos.org domain, 
as he “owns it”. Nobody else in the team is able to add nameservers, for 
instance. Recently he put an anonymizing service on the domain, so that 
nobody from the outside can see who that domain belongs to.
/

So sad..


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Re: [CentOS] [Found] CentOS is dead, long live CentOS

2009-09-14 Thread Ralph Angenendt

On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 16:43 +0700, David Suhendrik wrote:
 The sound is bad,
 
 / Lance vanished from the project some time in 2008. Everybody needs 
 time off from projects from time to time, so there was no real need to 
 worry about that. What there was to worry about is the following: Lance 
 is the only one, who can make active changes to the centos.org domain, 
 as he “owns it”. Nobody else in the team is able to add nameservers, for 
 instance. Recently he put an anonymizing service on the domain, so that 
 nobody from the outside can see who that domain belongs to.
 /

Ummm. That mostly has been resolved around a month ago, you might want
to check dates on things you mail somewhere.

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Re: [CentOS] [Found] CentOS is dead, long live CentOS

2009-09-14 Thread David Suhendrik
Ralph Angenendt wrote:
 On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 16:43 +0700, David Suhendrik wrote:
   
 The sound is bad,

 / Lance vanished from the project some time in 2008. Everybody needs 
 time off from projects from time to time, so there was no real need to 
 worry about that. What there was to worry about is the following: Lance 
 is the only one, who can make active changes to the centos.org domain, 
 as he “owns it”. Nobody else in the team is able to add nameservers, for 
 instance. Recently he put an anonymizing service on the domain, so that 
 nobody from the outside can see who that domain belongs to.
 /
 

 Ummm. That mostly has been resolved around a month ago, you might want
 to check dates on things you mail somewhere.

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I'm post here, just for make sure...
Andd may be anyone don't know about issue..

I love CentOS, and not interest other distro's.

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Re: [CentOS] [Found] CentOS is dead, long live CentOS

2009-09-14 Thread Christoph Maser
Am Montag, den 14.09.2009, 11:48 +0200 schrieb Ralph Angenendt:
 On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 16:43 +0700, David Suhendrik wrote:
  The sound is bad,
 
  / Lance vanished from the project some time in 2008. Everybody needs
  time off from projects from time to time, so there was no real need to
  worry about that. What there was to worry about is the following: Lance
  is the only one, who can make active changes to the centos.org domain,
  as he “owns it”. Nobody else in the team is able to add nameservers, for
  instance. Recently he put an anonymizing service on the domain, so that
  nobody from the outside can see who that domain belongs to.
  /

 Ummm. That mostly has been resolved around a month ago, you might want
 to check dates on things you mail somewhere.

 Ralph



Btw the homepage says:


More information will follow soon.
[..]
Last Update: August 1, 2009 04:34 UTC by Donavan Nelson

Today is September 14th, so what does soon mean here?

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Re: [CentOS] Persisting module loading

2009-09-14 Thread Diogo Sperb Schneider
 You could put them into /etc/sysconfig/iptables-config

Excellent! Thanks!
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Re: [CentOS] Persisting iproute2 routes and rules

2009-09-14 Thread Diogo Sperb Schneider
 /etc/syscontfig/network-scripts/rule-ethX
 Check out /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-routes to see exactly how
 things are processed.

Sorry, but I can't see how ifup-routes will ever process rule-ethX. A
quick search for rule on ifup-routes (on any file in the
network-scripts directory) gets no results.

Routes are OK, though.
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Re: [CentOS] Persisting iproute2 routes and rules

2009-09-14 Thread Diogo Sperb Schneider
 Sorry, but I can't see how ifup-routes will ever process rule-ethX. A
 quick search for rule on ifup-routes (on any file in the
 network-scripts directory) gets no results.

Are we running the same version? Mine is CentOS release 4.8 (Final).
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Re: [CentOS] vsftp strangeness

2009-09-14 Thread Diogo Sperb Schneider
2009/9/12 Eugene Vilensky evilen...@gmail.com:
 I have restricted the port range for passv and opened iptables,
 ip_conntrack_ftp (sp?) is loaded, and port 20 and 21 are opened.

I'm not sure it can solve the problem, but I recommend loading
ip_nat_ftp instead.
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Re: [CentOS] [Found] CentOS is dead, long live CentOS

2009-09-14 Thread David Suhendrik
Christoph Maser wrote:
 Am Montag, den 14.09.2009, 11:48 +0200 schrieb Ralph Angenendt:
   
 On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 16:43 +0700, David Suhendrik wrote:
 
 The sound is bad,

 / Lance vanished from the project some time in 2008. Everybody needs
 time off from projects from time to time, so there was no real need to
 worry about that. What there was to worry about is the following: Lance
 is the only one, who can make active changes to the centos.org domain,
 as he “owns it”. Nobody else in the team is able to add nameservers, for
 instance. Recently he put an anonymizing service on the domain, so that
 nobody from the outside can see who that domain belongs to.
 /
   
 Ummm. That mostly has been resolved around a month ago, you might want
 to check dates on things you mail somewhere.

 Ralph

 


 Btw the homepage says:

 
 More information will follow soon.
 [..]
 Last Update: August 1, 2009 04:34 UTC by Donavan Nelson

 Today is September 14th, so what does soon mean here?

 Chris




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Re: [CentOS] [Found] CentOS is dead, long live CentOS

2009-09-14 Thread Ralph Angenendt

On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 12:01 +0200, Christoph Maser wrote:
 Am Montag, den 14.09.2009, 11:48 +0200 schrieb Ralph Angenendt:
  Ummm. That mostly has been resolved around a month ago, you might want
  to check dates on things you mail somewhere.

 Btw the homepage says:
 
 
 More information will follow soon.
 [..]
 Last Update: August 1, 2009 04:34 UTC by Donavan Nelson
 
 Today is September 14th, so what does soon mean here?

5.3 soon? :)

Ralph

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Re: [CentOS] [Found] CentOS is dead, long live CentOS

2009-09-14 Thread David Suhendrik
Ralph Angenendt wrote:
 On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 12:01 +0200, Christoph Maser wrote:
   
 Am Montag, den 14.09.2009, 11:48 +0200 schrieb Ralph Angenendt:
 
 Ummm. That mostly has been resolved around a month ago, you might want
 to check dates on things you mail somewhere.
   
 Btw the homepage says:

 
 More information will follow soon.
 [..]
 Last Update: August 1, 2009 04:34 UTC by Donavan Nelson

 Today is September 14th, so what does soon mean here?
 

 5.3 soon? :)

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Re: [CentOS] [Found] CentOS is dead, long live CentOS

2009-09-14 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 09/14/2009 05:01 AM, Christoph Maser wrote:
 Am Montag, den 14.09.2009, 11:48 +0200 schrieb Ralph Angenendt:
 On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 16:43 +0700, David Suhendrik wrote:
 The sound is bad,

 / Lance vanished from the project some time in 2008. Everybody needs
 time off from projects from time to time, so there was no real need to
 worry about that. What there was to worry about is the following: Lance
 is the only one, who can make active changes to the centos.org domain,
 as he “owns it”. Nobody else in the team is able to add nameservers, for
 instance. Recently he put an anonymizing service on the domain, so that
 nobody from the outside can see who that domain belongs to.
 /

 Ummm. That mostly has been resolved around a month ago, you might want
 to check dates on things you mail somewhere.

 Ralph

 
 
 Btw the homepage says:
 
 
 More information will follow soon.
 [..]
 Last Update: August 1, 2009 04:34 UTC by Donavan Nelson
 
 Today is September 14th, so what does soon mean here?
 
 Chris

Soon means we will post when something changes.

The last update is still correct.

The CentOS project has the domain names in question, we have released
4.8, we have some packages from 5.4 in question, and everything is 100%
solved from a technical stand point.

Basically CentOS is exactly what it was before any of this happened from
a technical standpoint.

Updates to packages are happening within 24 hours, 5.4 is on track and
will soon be pushed soon.

If you want a multi-billion dollar corporation behind your Linux
distribution, then use RHEL nad pay for it.

If you want what you have gotten from CentOS for the last 5 years, you
are getting that now.

Do we have to have this conversation again?

Thanks,
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Re: [CentOS] [Found] CentOS is dead, long live CentOS

2009-09-14 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 09/14/2009 07:28 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:

snip


 The CentOS project has the domain names in question, we have released
 4.8, we have some packages from 5.4 in question, and everything is 100%
 solved from a technical stand point.


The above SHOULD have said packages from 5.4 in QA testing ... nothing
is in question. Dang spell checking :D






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Re: [CentOS] [Found] CentOS is dead, long live CentOS

2009-09-14 Thread Christoph Maser
Am Montag, den 14.09.2009, 14:28 +0200 schrieb Johnny Hughes:
 On 09/14/2009 05:01 AM, Christoph Maser wrote:
  Am Montag, den 14.09.2009, 11:48 +0200 schrieb Ralph Angenendt:
  On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 16:43 +0700, David Suhendrik wrote:
  The sound is bad,
 
  / Lance vanished from the project some time in 2008. Everybody needs
  time off from projects from time to time, so there was no real need to
  worry about that. What there was to worry about is the following: Lance
  is the only one, who can make active changes to the centos.org domain,
  as he “owns it”. Nobody else in the team is able to add nameservers, for
  instance. Recently he put an anonymizing service on the domain, so that
  nobody from the outside can see who that domain belongs to.
  /
 
  Ummm. That mostly has been resolved around a month ago, you might want
  to check dates on things you mail somewhere.
 
  Ralph
 
 
 
  Btw the homepage says:
 
  
  More information will follow soon.
  [..]
  Last Update: August 1, 2009 04:34 UTC by Donavan Nelson
 
  Today is September 14th, so what does soon mean here?
 
  Chris

 Soon means we will post when something changes.

 The last update is still correct.

 The CentOS project has the domain names in question, we have released
 4.8, we have some packages from 5.4 in question, and everything is 100%
 solved from a technical stand point.

 Basically CentOS is exactly what it was before any of this happened from
 a technical standpoint.

 Updates to packages are happening within 24 hours, 5.4 is on track and
 will soon be pushed soon.

 If you want a multi-billion dollar corporation behind your Linux
 distribution, then use RHEL nad pay for it.

 If you want what you have gotten from CentOS for the last 5 years, you
 are getting that now.

 Do we have to have this conversation again?

 Thanks,
 Johnny Hughes



Actually I was much more interested in non technical info. Like what
happend to donations in the past. How will donations in the future be
used/handled. Will there be a cashier etc. etc.

Chris


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Re: [CentOS] [Found] CentOS is dead, long live CentOS

2009-09-14 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 09/14/2009 07:42 AM, Christoph Maser wrote:
 Am Montag, den 14.09.2009, 14:28 +0200 schrieb Johnny Hughes:
 On 09/14/2009 05:01 AM, Christoph Maser wrote:
 Am Montag, den 14.09.2009, 11:48 +0200 schrieb Ralph Angenendt:
 On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 16:43 +0700, David Suhendrik wrote:
 The sound is bad,

 / Lance vanished from the project some time in 2008. Everybody needs
 time off from projects from time to time, so there was no real need to
 worry about that. What there was to worry about is the following: Lance
 is the only one, who can make active changes to the centos.org domain,
 as he “owns it”. Nobody else in the team is able to add nameservers, for
 instance. Recently he put an anonymizing service on the domain, so that
 nobody from the outside can see who that domain belongs to.
 /

 Ummm. That mostly has been resolved around a month ago, you might want
 to check dates on things you mail somewhere.

 Ralph



 Btw the homepage says:

 
 More information will follow soon.
 [..]
 Last Update: August 1, 2009 04:34 UTC by Donavan Nelson

 Today is September 14th, so what does soon mean here?

 Chris

 Soon means we will post when something changes.

 The last update is still correct.

 The CentOS project has the domain names in question, we have released
 4.8, we have some packages from 5.4 in question, and everything is 100%
 solved from a technical stand point.

 Basically CentOS is exactly what it was before any of this happened from
 a technical standpoint.

 Updates to packages are happening within 24 hours, 5.4 is on track and
 will soon be pushed soon.

 If you want a multi-billion dollar corporation behind your Linux
 distribution, then use RHEL nad pay for it.

 If you want what you have gotten from CentOS for the last 5 years, you
 are getting that now.

 Do we have to have this conversation again?

 Thanks,
 Johnny Hughes

 
 
 Actually I was much more interested in non technical info. Like what
 happend to donations in the past. How will donations in the future be
 used/handled. Will there be a cashier etc. etc.
 
 Chris

Do you ask Slackware or Gentoo or Debian or Ubuntu to explain the same
things?

We are working out those details right now.

However, we are NOT accepting monetary donations at this point.  We will
not accept monetary donations until there is something in place where
more than one person has to approve any spending and some kind of
committee is in place to manage incoming and outgoing funds.

We have not worked out all the details of exactly how we will do this at
this point.  We will before we accept any monetary donations in the future.

However, I am not sure WHY you want to know these things.  We do not
require anyone to donate to the project to use the software.  We do have
expenses (like DVDs to hand out, posters to print, rooms to pay for at
Linux conferences, bandwidth and machines for some services, etc.).  We
would not spend any donations on anything other than those things or to
pay developer expenses to maintain hardware and software required to
produce CentOS (replace a hard drive that fails, buy a network switch,
replace a bad power supply, pay for bandwidth, etc.)

Thanks,
Johnny Hughes



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[CentOS] Problems with Adobe flash-plugin and Firefox-3.5.x under CentOs-5.3 (yum up to date)

2009-09-14 Thread Martin Knoblauch
Hi,
 
I am running 32-bit Firefox-3.5.3 on Centos-5.3 (64-bit kernel) on a Dell 
Precision M65 laptop. This is likely a Adobe problem, but maybe someone else 
has seen this before. Please CC me, as I only receive the digest version of the 
list.

 
When using the 10.0.32.18-release version of the flash-plugin, trying
to access *any* page containing flash (e.g. www.adobe.com) causes the
browser to die. This also happens with version 10.0.22.87. Version
9.0.115.0 works fine. To avoid problems with add-ons, Firefox is
started with -safe-mode. As far as I know, the problem also happens
with Firefox-3.0.x.
 
# uname -a
Linux l6g0223j 2.6.18-128.7.1.el5 #1 SMP Mon Aug 24 08:21:56 EDT 2009 x86_64 
x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
# rpm -q flash-plugin
flash-plugin-10.0.32.18-release
 
 
Any idea? Anything I can help debugging the problem?
 
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Re: [CentOS] [Found] CentOS is dead, long live CentOS

2009-09-14 Thread Ralph Angenendt

On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 08:11 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:
 Do you ask Slackware or Gentoo or Debian or Ubuntu to explain the same
 things?

 However, I am not sure WHY you want to know these things.  We do not
 require anyone to donate to the project to use the software. 

Tone down, please.

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Re: [CentOS] [Found] CentOS is dead, long live CentOS

2009-09-14 Thread Chan Chung Hang Christopher

 However, we are NOT accepting monetary donations at this point.  We will
 not accept monetary donations until there is something in place where
 more than one person has to approve any spending and some kind of
 committee is in place to manage incoming and outgoing funds.
   



ooh, ouch. A committee that is geographically located (or at least the 
approve spending part). I confess that I know nothing about how that 
kind of problem is dealt with though.

Centos is becoming more and more like an organisation. Will a charter be 
set up too? (is there one? :-D)


I see growing pains coming your way. Thanks for all the hard work.
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Re: [CentOS] [Found] CentOS is dead, long live CentOS

2009-09-14 Thread Timo Schoeler
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thus Chan Chung Hang Christopher spake:
| However, we are NOT accepting monetary donations at this point.  We will
| not accept monetary donations until there is something in place where
| more than one person has to approve any spending and some kind of
| committee is in place to manage incoming and outgoing funds.
|
|
|
|
| ooh, ouch. A committee that is geographically located (or at least the
| approve spending part). I confess that I know nothing about how that
| kind of problem is dealt with though.
|
| Centos is becoming more and more like an organisation. Will a charter be
| set up too? (is there one? :-D)

I don't see problems here, more than progress into the right direction.
My 2 cents worth ;)

| I see growing pains coming your way. Thanks for all the hard work.

IMHO re-designing the CentOS project based upon a decent and
well-organized team would be a real progress.

Best,

Timo
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Re: [CentOS] [Found] CentOS is dead, long live CentOS

2009-09-14 Thread Christoph Maser
Am Montag, den 14.09.2009, 15:11 +0200 schrieb Johnny Hughes:

 However, I am not sure WHY you want to know these things.  We do not
 require anyone to donate to the project to use the software.  We do have
 expenses (like DVDs to hand out, posters to print, rooms to pay for at
 Linux conferences, bandwidth and machines for some services, etc.).  We
 would not spend any donations on anything other than those things or to
 pay developer expenses to maintain hardware and software required to
 produce CentOS (replace a hard drive that fails, buy a network switch,
 replace a bad power supply, pay for bandwidth, etc.)

 Thanks,
 Johnny Hughes


I want to know it beacause I considered donating but my personal
expectations for transparency are not met. (That does not only apply to
the financial things)


Chris


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Re: [CentOS] [Found] CentOS is dead, long live CentOS

2009-09-14 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 09/14/2009 08:51 AM, Christoph Maser wrote:
 Am Montag, den 14.09.2009, 15:11 +0200 schrieb Johnny Hughes:
 
 However, I am not sure WHY you want to know these things.  We do not
 require anyone to donate to the project to use the software.  We do have
 expenses (like DVDs to hand out, posters to print, rooms to pay for at
 Linux conferences, bandwidth and machines for some services, etc.).  We
 would not spend any donations on anything other than those things or to
 pay developer expenses to maintain hardware and software required to
 produce CentOS (replace a hard drive that fails, buy a network switch,
 replace a bad power supply, pay for bandwidth, etc.)

 Thanks,
 Johnny Hughes
 
 
 I want to know it beacause I considered donating but my personal
 expectations for transparency are not met. (That does not only apply to
 the financial things)

Absolutely, and you are certainly entitled to that opinion.

I have already assured everyone that we will not accept donations until
we have something official in place with an approval committee to audit
all incoming funds and agree on all expenditures.  This committee will
have full  visibility.

As soon as we have details of exactly how that will happen, we will post
them.

I may be a few more weeks as we work through the details.

Thanks,
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Re: [CentOS] Persisting iproute2 routes and rules

2009-09-14 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
Hi,

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 06:23, Diogo Sperb Schneider
di...@kildare.ind.br wrote:
 Sorry, but I can't see how ifup-routes will ever process rule-ethX. A
 quick search for rule on ifup-routes (on any file in the
 network-scripts directory) gets no results.

 Are we running the same version? Mine is CentOS release 4.8 (Final).

AFAIR, the rule-ethX files (and maybe also route-ethX files) work in
CentOS 5 only. If you're doing that on CentOS 4, I believe the way for
you to load those rules during reboot is adding them to
/etc/rc.local...

HTH,
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[CentOS] LF examples - using site-specific RPMs for config

2009-09-14 Thread Alan McKay
Hey folks,

A week or two ago someone mentioned something about using their own
home-grown RPMs for managing config info on their boxes.

I really like this idea and would like to learn more about it.  Are
there some examples out there?

I have lots of custom config info and think this would be an ideal way
to manage it.   Others mentioned puppet and CF engine which probably
have their merits as well.  But I don't really have time at the moment
to learn those.   Perhaps in this thread we could even discuss the +/-
of each method.

cheers,
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Re: [CentOS] Point Releases Question

2009-09-14 Thread Jorge Fábregas
On Monday 14 September 2009 10:59:58 am Ralph Angenendt wrote:
 The release notes will have a section if/which packages have been
 removed or are new to the release (or have been updated).

Thanks for clarifying Ralph.  All clear now.

All the best,
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Re: [CentOS] Point Releases Question

2009-09-14 Thread Les Mikesell
Jorge Fábregas wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 
 Let say 5.4 goes out today;  If I fully update (today) my 5.2 system...will 
 it 
 be equivalent to 5.4 (all RPM packages with same version/release number?)? 
 
 Or is it possible for the new point release to include NEW packages that 
 weren't on the base relase (in this case CentOS 5)?

In general, you'll get the current version of the same packages you have 
installed.  However, it is possible for some packages to be reorganized, 
have new dependencies, or for some new package to obsolete and replace 
an older one so you end up with the same functionality as before even if 
you have some different package names.

If you run yum update interactively it will show you what it plans to 
do and wait for confirmation.  You can answer no if you don't like it. 
But read the release notes first in case there are special requirements 
like there were for 5.3 (update glibc\* first).

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[CentOS] Point Releases Question

2009-09-14 Thread Jorge Fábregas
Hello everyone,

Let say 5.4 goes out today;  If I fully update (today) my 5.2 system...will it 
be equivalent to 5.4 (all RPM packages with same version/release number?)? 

Or is it possible for the new point release to include NEW packages that 
weren't on the base relase (in this case CentOS 5)?

Thanks,
Jorge
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[CentOS] Opinions on bonding modes?

2009-09-14 Thread Rick Barnes
I am working on setting up an NFS server, which will mainly serve files
to web servers, and I want to setup two bonds. I have a question
regarding *which* bonding mode to use. None of the documentation I have
read suggests any mode is better than other with the exception of
specific use cases (e.g. switch does not support 802.3ad, active-backup).

Since my switch *does* support 802.3ad, including layers 2,3 and 4
hashing, should I use mode=4? Or would one of the other modes be
better for providing fail-over and link-aggregation, specifically
balance-tlb or balance-alb.

Any suggestions are appreciated.

Thanks,
Rick
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Re: [CentOS] Opinions on bonding modes?

2009-09-14 Thread nate
Rick Barnes wrote:
 Since my switch *does* support 802.3ad, including layers 2,3 and 4
 hashing, should I use mode=4? Or would one of the other modes be
 better for providing fail-over and link-aggregation, specifically
 balance-tlb or balance-alb.


Use 802.3ad, also if performance is really an issue I'd suggest
setting up two networks on the NFS server one with standard frame
sizes and the other with jumbo frames, and directly connect systems
that need higher throughput to a dedicated VLAN(s) running jumbo
frames.

Also note that link aggregation will not increase throughput between
hosts, i.e. if you have 1 host talking to 1 server you will not
get higher throughput with link aggregation, what link aggregation
will do is allow many hosts to communicate to a single host with
higher aggregate throughput.

If you want faster, simpler single-stream throughput go with
10GbE, good quality line rate 10GbE switches are very cost
effective these days, probably 90%+ cheaper than 10GbE was
5-6 years ago.

Though your likely going to need a lot of disks to be able to
come close to saturating even a 1Gbps connection depending on
your workload.

nate


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Re: [CentOS] [Found] CentOS is dead, long live CentOS

2009-09-14 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 09:12 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:
 On 09/14/2009 08:51 AM, Christoph Maser wrote:
  Am Montag, den 14.09.2009, 15:11 +0200 schrieb Johnny Hughes:
  
  However, I am not sure WHY you want to know these things.  We do not
  require anyone to donate to the project to use the software.  We do have
  expenses (like DVDs to hand out, posters to print, rooms to pay for at
  Linux conferences, bandwidth and machines for some services, etc.).  We
  would not spend any donations on anything other than those things or to
  pay developer expenses to maintain hardware and software required to
  produce CentOS (replace a hard drive that fails, buy a network switch,
  replace a bad power supply, pay for bandwidth, etc.)
 
  Thanks,
  Johnny Hughes
  
  
  I want to know it beacause I considered donating but my personal
  expectations for transparency are not met. (That does not only apply to
  the financial things)
 
 Absolutely, and you are certainly entitled to that opinion.
 
 I have already assured everyone that we will not accept donations until
 we have something official in place with an approval committee to audit
 all incoming funds and agree on all expenditures.  This committee will
 have full  visibility.
 
 As soon as we have details of exactly how that will happen, we will post
 them.
 
 I may be a few more weeks as we work through the details.

you guys have my full confidence.

Craig


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Re: [CentOS] Problems with Adobe flash-plugin and Firefox-3.5.x under CentOs-5.3 (yum up to date)

2009-09-14 Thread m . roth
 Hi,

 I am running 32-bit Firefox-3.5.3 on Centos-5.3 (64-bit kernel) on a Dell
 Precision M65 laptop. This is likely a Adobe problem, but maybe someone
 else has seen this before. Please CC me, as I only receive the digest
 version of the list.


 When using the 10.0.32.18-release version of the flash-plugin, trying
 to access *any* page containing flash (e.g. www.adobe.com) causes the
 browser to die. This also happens with version 10.0.22.87. Version
 9.0.115.0 works fine. To avoid problems with add-ons, Firefox is
 started with -safe-mode. As far as I know, the problem also happens
 with Firefox-3.0.x.
snip
I filed a bug with the firefox team about exactly that. I'm running 64 bit
CentOS 5.3, with updates, and it happens with both firefox 3.5.3 and
3.0.14.

Fortunately, I install in such a way as to not wipe out the existing,
running version... so I'm running 3.0.12 until I see a fix.

mark

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Re: [CentOS] Point Releases Question

2009-09-14 Thread Ralph Angenendt

On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 10:51 -0400, Jorge Fábregas wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 
 Let say 5.4 goes out today;  If I fully update (today) my 5.2 system...will 
 it 
 be equivalent to 5.4 (all RPM packages with same version/release number?)? 

Yes.

 Or is it possible for the new point release to include NEW packages that 
 weren't on the base relase (in this case CentOS 5)?

Yes.

The release notes will have a section if/which packages have been
removed or are new to the release (or have been updated).

Ralph

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Re: [CentOS] LF examples - using site-specific RPMs for config

2009-09-14 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 09/14/2009 05:35 PM, Alan McKay wrote:
 A week or two ago someone mentioned something about using their own
 home-grown RPMs for managing config info on their boxes.

this is a really really bad idea. I'd suggest you dont waste your time 
around this and instead work with projects like chef / puppet / bcfg2 
and look at those to manage what they do - config and state.

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Re: [CentOS] LF examples - using site-specific RPMs for config

2009-09-14 Thread Jonathan Moore
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org wrote:
 On 09/14/2009 05:35 PM, Alan McKay wrote:
 A week or two ago someone mentioned something about using their own
 home-grown RPMs for managing config info on their boxes.

 this is a really really bad idea. I'd suggest you dont waste your time
 around this and instead work with projects like chef / puppet / bcfg2
 and look at those to manage what they do - config and state.

I second that.  All the listed options are great.  If you want to
manage configurations
on a server, use something designed for configuration management.  Using RPM
to manage configs will probably leave you with halfway broken machines and
no clue about what we wrong.

-jonathan
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Re: [CentOS] Opinions on bonding modes?

2009-09-14 Thread Jonathan Moore
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Rick Barnes li...@sitevision.com wrote:
8
 Since my switch *does* support 802.3ad, including layers 2,3 and 4
 hashing, should I use mode=4? Or would one of the other modes be
 better for providing fail-over and link-aggregation, specifically
 balance-tlb or balance-alb.

Are you more interested in load balancing or fault tolerance?

-jonathan
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Re: [CentOS] LF examples - using site-specific RPMs for config

2009-09-14 Thread davxoc







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Asunto: Re: [CentOS] LF examples - using site-specific RPMs for config
Enviado: 14 Sep, 2009 12:11

On 09/14/2009 05:35 PM, Alan McKay wrote:
 A week or two ago someone mentioned something about using their own
 home-grown RPMs for managing config info on their boxes.

this is a really really bad idea. I'd suggest you dont waste your time 
around this and instead work with projects like chef / puppet / bcfg2 
and look at those to manage what they do - config and state.

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Re: [CentOS] Persisting iproute2 routes and rules

2009-09-14 Thread Diogo Sperb Schneider
2009/9/14 Filipe Brandenburger filbran...@gmail.com:
 Hi,

 AFAIR, the rule-ethX files (and maybe also route-ethX files) work in
 CentOS 5 only. If you're doing that on CentOS 4, I believe the way for
 you to load those rules during reboot is adding them to
 /etc/rc.local...

I see there are commands for route-ethX files, but not for rule-ethX,
so I'll keep those in rc.local as you suggested. Thanks!
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Re: [CentOS] LF examples - using site-specific RPMs for config

2009-09-14 Thread nicholas
Alan,

FYI last year, I tried bcfg on Centos5.1 but it was difficult to get  
things working. With Puppet things could work, not easily but it  
allowed rollback using CVS and ensuring that common config files are  
always applied to all machines.

Quoting Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org:

 On 09/14/2009 05:35 PM, Alan McKay wrote:
 A week or two ago someone mentioned something about using their own
 home-grown RPMs for managing config info on their boxes.

 this is a really really bad idea. I'd suggest you dont waste your time
 around this and instead work with projects like chef / puppet / bcfg2
 and look at those to manage what they do - config and state.

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Re: [CentOS] LF examples - using site-specific RPMs for config

2009-09-14 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
Hi,

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:35, Alan McKay alan.mc...@gmail.com wrote:
 A week or two ago someone mentioned something about using their own
 home-grown RPMs for managing config info on their boxes.

I believe you are referring to my suggestion on a thread discussing
creating scripts on the %post section of a kickstart.

The suggestion was to use RPMs to manage *scripts* that are deployed
to multiple machines, since if you create them from a kickstart it
will not be very manageable and if you need to update one of the
scripts it will become a mess quite quickly...

The only way you can manage config files (for other packages) with a
home-built RPM is by scripting the changes in the %post section of the
RPM (since you do *not* want your package to own config files of other
packages), but that is quite tricky because you want that to work in
updates, so you want all your changes to be idempotent if they're not
already there. It means, if you are appending to a config file, you
must test (with grep?) if you have appended that line before, and only
append it if you still did not do it. Other changes can be done with
ex which accepts vi-like s///, but it really gets tricky quite
easily.

The nice side of having home-built RPMs is that you can list all the
other packages you need as dependencies of your RPM, so for instance
you may have a my-webserver.rpm package that has as dependencies
Apache, PHP, etc., and then you can use one short yum command to turn
that machine into a webserver. That way, you don't need to work with
hundreds of slightly different kickstarts that install machines with
different purposes, you only need a couple (mostly for different
hardware) and one a machine is installed you only log in to it and use
a short yum command to get it up and running with whatever you need
the machine to do.

 I have lots of custom config info and think this would be an ideal way
 to manage it.

Not really, since RPM is good for managing software and not managing
config files. What it does well in terms of config files is saying
which config file belongs to which package, whether it was updated
from the default one provided by the package, and whether it should be
replaced when you install a new version of that package. Managing your
custom config files for multiple machines in RPMs is not a good idea.

 Others mentioned puppet and CF engine which probably
 have their merits as well.  But I don't really have time at the moment
 to learn those.   Perhaps in this thread we could even discuss the +/-
 of each method.

Well, those are certainly the best tools to manage config files.

Another alternative would be setting up an rsync server from where you
download your config files to all servers, that way you edit once and
copy them everywhere you need them, but that is certainly more manual
than what puppet can do.

HTH,
Filipe
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Re: [CentOS] LF examples - using site-specific RPMs for config

2009-09-14 Thread nate
Alan McKay wrote:
 I have lots of custom config info and think this would be an ideal way
 to manage it.   Others mentioned puppet and CF engine which probably
 have their merits as well.  But I don't really have time at the moment
 to learn those.   Perhaps in this thread we could even discuss the +/-
 of each method.

It depends on the scale your working on, as others mentioned it's a
bad idea to use RPM to manage config files.

At the most simple level you could store your config files in a
central location and use rsync over ssh or scp to copy them to
your various servers using key-based authentication.

For my own systems(about half a dozen) I manage them by hand,
they all run Debian. Not much time is spent.

For my work systems(about 350 or so), I use a combination of
kickstart for the initial installation and installation of some
core services, and cfengine for the rest.

CFengine parses the host names of the systems and dynamically adds
most servers to all of the classes that they need to be in to
function, this works for about 99% of the systems out there, the
rest have one-off type configurations so need to be manually
added into a cfengine class(text file).

Each major class has a config file associated with it, which
includes everything for that class, whether it is config files,
or RPMs etc. The agent runs hourly and checks/applies the configs
or packages that is not present. CFengine(unlike puppet I believe)
doesn't have fancy dependency handling so initially we need to
either force run it 3 times, or let it run by itself 3 times in
order to get everything it needs.

There is one kickstart config per OS type:
centos 4.6 32-bit
centos 4.6 64-bit
centos 5.2 32-bit
centos 5.2 64-bit
fedora 8 32-bit (virtualized NTP services only)

everything in kickstart is as generic as possible.

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Re: [CentOS] [Found] CentOS is dead, long live CentOS

2009-09-14 Thread Ron Blizzard
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:35 AM, David Suhendrik da...@pnyet.web.id wrote:

 =D, Someone make me confused, and just a make sure here...
 I'm so sorry for this...

I was worried too, on the day I first saw the message. But I found (on
that day) that the worst that would have happened would have been a
name change for the distribution -- and now even that issue is no
longer a problem.

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Re: [CentOS] Securely backing up Linux machines to NAS?

2009-09-14 Thread Glenn
At 10:42 PM 9/11/2009, you wrote:
I have been tasked with having a Buffalo Terastation Pro 2 NAS box,
likely to be connected to a Linux box via samba, be the storage device
to back up mostly Ubuntu and Centos systems.  The trick is, the
machines to be backed up need to do so in an automated fashion and
make a secure, encrypted connection to my Linux box hosting the NAS.
The NAS does have SSL enabled for web admin access, though the same
login credentials are used to authenticate the Linux host via samba to
the NAS.

So what are the simplest options to back up the Linux hosts?   rsync
does come to mind, but how to do so securely from each host?   I'd
consider something via ssh, but that would mean an interactive login,
and encrypting individual files on the hosts is not an option.

NFS is also available on the NAS, but considering the security
concerns, I will not use that, nor do I want to enable any more
services on the linux machines being backed up than necessary, meaning
samba is not an option, unless it remains the ONLY one.

I ONLY plan to use samba to mount the NAS to my Linux server, unless
someone comes up with a more secure method, or even away to negate the
need of the Linux server and permit the hosts to back up directly to
the NAS...

Ideas are welcome.

Thanks.

Scott

Scott,

http://www.jms1.net/code/rsync-backup.shtml

Cheers!  

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Re: [CentOS] problem with a repo

2009-09-14 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
Hi,

On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 23:55, Dave dave.meh...@gmail.com wrote:
        I've got rpmforge and epel on centos 5.3. I'm trying to do an
 install of perl-Image-Info for spamassassin image scanning. The package was
 picked up in rpmforge since first, but it is failing to install because a
 dependency is missing.

If the problem is with the RPMforge repository (from your e-mail that
is not completely clear) you should report it on the RPMforge mailing
list:
http://lists.rpmforge.net/mailman/listinfo/users

Note that RPMforge and EPEL often do not mix well with one another, so
you should set up the yum-priorities plugin and give them appropriate
priorities so that when both have the same package yum will try to
install from one of them only:
http://wiki.centos.org/PackageManagement/Yum/Priorities

HTH,
Filipe
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Re: [CentOS] Securely backing up Linux machines to NAS?

2009-09-14 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
Hi,

On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 22:42, Scott Ehrlich srehrl...@gmail.com wrote:
 I ONLY plan to use samba to mount the NAS to my Linux server, unless
 someone comes up with a more secure method,

I don't know if I understand what you mean by the sentence above, but
Samba is *not* secure in the sense that nothing is encrypted in that
connection.

 or even away to negate the
 need of the Linux server and permit the hosts to back up directly to
 the NAS...

 Ideas are welcome.

You mention that you want to use encryption to upload the files to the
NAS and for that you would like to use an encrypted protocol
(something over SSL or SSH). However, by doing that the files on the
NAS side would still be unencrypted, and anyone having access to it
would have access to all your backup files (I don't know if that is an
important security consideration for you).

Another alternative would be using a backup software that would create
an encrypted backup image and then upload it to the NAS. That way you
may do the upload using an unencrypted protocol (like FTP or CIFS
which seem to be the ones that your NAS supports) and even if someone
hacks your NAS they would not be able to access your backed up files.

One software that does exactly that is Duplicity:
http://duplicity.nongnu.org/

It certainly supports FTP for the upload, I believe it should support
Samba as well.

HTH,
Filipe
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Re: [CentOS] [Found] CentOS is dead, long live CentOS

2009-09-14 Thread William Warren

On 9/14/2009 9:11 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:

On 09/14/2009 07:42 AM, Christoph Maser wrote:
   

Am Montag, den 14.09.2009, 14:28 +0200 schrieb Johnny Hughes:
 

On 09/14/2009 05:01 AM, Christoph Maser wrote:
   

Am Montag, den 14.09.2009, 11:48 +0200 schrieb Ralph Angenendt:
 

On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 16:43 +0700, David Suhendrik wrote:
   

The sound is bad,

/ Lance vanished from the project some time in 2008. Everybody needs
time off from projects from time to time, so there was no real need to
worry about that. What there was to worry about is the following: Lance
is the only one, who can make active changes to the centos.org domain,
as he “owns it”. Nobody else in the team is able to add nameservers, for
instance. Recently he put an anonymizing service on the domain, so that
nobody from the outside can see who that domain belongs to.
/
 

Ummm. That mostly has been resolved around a month ago, you might want
to check dates on things you mail somewhere.

Ralph

   


Btw the homepage says:


More information will follow soon.
[..]
Last Update: August 1, 2009 04:34 UTC by Donavan Nelson

Today is September 14th, so what does soon mean here?

Chris
 

Soon means we will post when something changes.

The last update is still correct.

The CentOS project has the domain names in question, we have released
4.8, we have some packages from 5.4 in question, and everything is 100%
solved from a technical stand point.

Basically CentOS is exactly what it was before any of this happened from
a technical standpoint.

Updates to packages are happening within 24 hours, 5.4 is on track and
will soon be pushed soon.

If you want a multi-billion dollar corporation behind your Linux
distribution, then use RHEL nad pay for it.

If you want what you have gotten from CentOS for the last 5 years, you
are getting that now.

Do we have to have this conversation again?

Thanks,
Johnny Hughes

   


Actually I was much more interested in non technical info. Like what
happend to donations in the past. How will donations in the future be
used/handled. Will there be a cashier etc. etc.

Chris
 

Do you ask Slackware or Gentoo or Debian or Ubuntu to explain the same
things?

We are working out those details right now.

However, we are NOT accepting monetary donations at this point.  We will
not accept monetary donations until there is something in place where
more than one person has to approve any spending and some kind of
committee is in place to manage incoming and outgoing funds.

We have not worked out all the details of exactly how we will do this at
this point.  We will before we accept any monetary donations in the future.

However, I am not sure WHY you want to know these things.  We do not
require anyone to donate to the project to use the software.  We do have
expenses (like DVDs to hand out, posters to print, rooms to pay for at
Linux conferences, bandwidth and machines for some services, etc.).  We
would not spend any donations on anything other than those things or to
pay developer expenses to maintain hardware and software required to
produce CentOS (replace a hard drive that fails, buy a network switch,
replace a bad power supply, pay for bandwidth, etc.)

Thanks,
Johnny Hughes

   



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Why do we want to know?  Because of one person's disappearance the 
project nearly went boom.  Because by your own admission(the devs) the 
funds were NOT going to further the project.  If you can't get a thicker 
skin maybe you need a vacation.
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Re: [CentOS] [Found] CentOS is dead, long live CentOS

2009-09-14 Thread William Warren
On 9/14/2009 9:51 AM, Christoph Maser wrote:
 Am Montag, den 14.09.2009, 15:11 +0200 schrieb Johnny Hughes:


 However, I am not sure WHY you want to know these things.  We do not
 require anyone to donate to the project to use the software.  We do have
 expenses (like DVDs to hand out, posters to print, rooms to pay for at
 Linux conferences, bandwidth and machines for some services, etc.).  We
 would not spend any donations on anything other than those things or to
 pay developer expenses to maintain hardware and software required to
 produce CentOS (replace a hard drive that fails, buy a network switch,
 replace a bad power supply, pay for bandwidth, etc.)

 Thanks,
 Johnny Hughes
  

 I want to know it beacause I considered donating but my personal
 expectations for transparency are not met. (That does not only apply to
 the financial things)


 Chris


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Re: [CentOS] [Found] CentOS is dead, long live CentOS

2009-09-14 Thread nate
William Warren wrote:

 Why do we want to know?  Because of one person's disappearance the
 project nearly went boom.  Because by your own admission(the devs) the
 funds were NOT going to further the project.  If you can't get a thicker
 skin maybe you need a vacation.

Perhaps it's reversed? There's an old saying, you get what you
pay for. If CentOS dropped off the map tomorrow it really wouldn't
impact myself all that much despite having roughly 350 systems
running it. I'd just slowly migrate to something else.

If your not prepared to face that possibility perhaps your better
off with a commercially backed distribution(or commercial UNIX),
while the chances of that happening are certainly not zero they
are often quite a bit smaller than a small community driven org.

nate
(CentOS user for ~4 years, Debian user for ~11)

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[CentOS] problem installing CentOS 5.3

2009-09-14 Thread Buz Davis

I have a small fixed ip network at home, running red hat 9 on two
amd k6 500 Mhz boxes.  One has 256 M memory and the other 320 M.  They 
pretty much meet my needs, but lately I have detected that the internet 
sites
I frequent are requiring some more modern software than I can run.   I 
attempted to install
Fedora 8, but that failed on the AMD processors.  So I ordered a set of 
CentOS 5.3 i386 disks.

The CentOS install fails also.  I could get the first screen up, 
offering choices of how to boot,  and if I asked for memtest86 that 
would start.  (I had verified memory earlier, during my F8 attempts).
However, any other choice resulted in a reboot (generally during loading
of vmlinux).  Sometimes the disk wouldn't be recognized as bootable.
I have convinced myself that the disks are OK (see below) and that I 
must need either better hardware or more memory (but this is the i386 
version of CentOS 5.3) or some parameter on the install that I haven't 
tried (and I've tried about all I have found or remember).  I would 
appreciate any help.



What I've done so far:
At first I thought that the CentOS 1of6 disk must be bad (couldn't even 
run a mediacheck) and emailed the vendor.  Then it occurred to me that I 
could perhaps download and burn disk 1of6 and use that to get the 
install started.  (Up until my attempts at F8 I had not had the 
capability to burn a CD.  While trying with F8 I bought a used intel 
inside computer with a broken XP system on it.  I blew that away but F8 
found problems with the hard disk and wouldn't install.  I managed to 
install RedHat 9, which gave me access to the CD).  I reaized that the 
process would be a bit iffy on a box with hard-disk problems, and also 
I had never burned a cd, but googled around for instructions and plunged 
in.  I downloaded an ios, checked it with md5sum and it was OK.  I 
copied it to the new computer via NFS and checked it again: OK.  I 
burned a CD using cdrecord, and the burn appeared to work.  The result 
behaved much like the original had.  I tried two
more times, varying stuff that I thought might affect the burn, and 
always got the same sort of behavior.  Finally I tried mounting (on a 
RH9 box) each of the four disks 1of6 I now had and copied (from 
/dev/cdrom rather than /mnt/cdrom, so as to avoid separating out the 
files) each to a separate directory and compared them.  All three that I 
burned were identical. The store bought disk was a little larger, but 
compared OK up to EOF on the other (and I recall reading that 
mass-produced disks might be different in their padding).  So I am 
convinced now that there is nothing wrong with either the original or 
recently burned disks 1of6
and the problem must either be requiring better/more hardware (but this 
is the i386 version of cent OS) or some parameter on the install I have 
never heard of.

Again, any advice would be appreciated.

Buz
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Re: [CentOS] LF examples - using site-specific RPMs for config

2009-09-14 Thread Gary Greene
On 9/14/09 11:14 AM, Filipe Brandenburger filbran...@gmail.com wrote:
 Another alternative would be setting up an rsync server from where you
 download your config files to all servers, that way you edit once and
 copy them everywhere you need them, but that is certainly more manual
 than what puppet can do.

This is what I do using the Slack configuration tool that uses an SVN repo
checkout on the slackmaster which is contacted by the client to determine
what roles the machine is registered as. Simple and easy to setup, however,
if I had more time, I'd likely move completely over to using Puppet.

-- 
Gary L. Greene, Jr.
IT Operations
Minerva Networks, Inc.
Cell:  (650) 704-6633
Phone: (408) 240-1239

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Re: [CentOS] problem installing CentOS 5.3

2009-09-14 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Buz Davis buzda...@earthlink.net wrote:

 I have a small fixed ip network at home, running red hat 9 on two
 amd k6 500 Mhz boxes.  One has 256 M memory and the other 320 M.  They
 pretty much meet my needs, but lately I have detected that the internet
 sites
 I frequent are requiring some more modern software than I can run.   I
 attempted to install
 Fedora 8, but that failed on the AMD processors.  So I ordered a set of
 CentOS 5.3 i386 disks.

You need the i586 kernel for the AMD K6 machines. Bad news is CentOS 5
does not support it.  Good news is CentOS 4 supports it.

Visit http://i586.centos.org/centos/4/ and you will find what is
required to boot your system.  Once booted, type 'linux i586' to start
the installation.

Good luck!

Akemi
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Re: [CentOS] problem with a repo

2009-09-14 Thread Jim Perrin
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Filipe Brandenburger
filbran...@gmail.com wrote:


 If the problem is with the RPMforge repository (from your e-mail that
 is not completely clear) you should report it on the RPMforge mailing
 list:
 http://lists.rpmforge.net/mailman/listinfo/users

From the sounds of things, his email is essentially a case study in
why the priorities plugin should be used when 3rd party repositories
are enabled.

EPEL and RPMForge both package lots of perl sub-packages, and each do
so a bit differently. They may be different versions, a mix of arch vs
noarch packages, or simply contain different contents. Yum simply
complains loudly if it can't do what it's told.


-- 
During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.
George Orwell
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Re: [CentOS] LF examples - using site-specific RPMs for config

2009-09-14 Thread Jim Wildman
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009, Karanbir Singh wrote:

 On 09/14/2009 05:35 PM, Alan McKay wrote:
 A week or two ago someone mentioned something about using their own
 home-grown RPMs for managing config info on their boxes.

 this is a really really bad idea. I'd suggest you dont waste your time
 around this and instead work with projects like chef / puppet / bcfg2
 and look at those to manage what they do - config and state.


I'm going to take a different tack than the others.  This _may_ be a
good idea, depending on your situation.  We have been using it very
effectively for delivering a tightly controlled set of configs during
the build process.  Puppet/cfengine etc are out because we are not
allowed to leave a process running on the server after install (we don't
manage the boxes, we just design the build).  The 'customers' each have
their own system management ideas...

Additionally, by using rpms we can nonintrusively and quickly determine
what a system that has been 'out in the wild' started as (via the rpm 
versions), what has been changed (via rpm -V) and whether the content is
ours (via the signing key), without installing an agent, etc.  We can
also add our content to servers that are 'forklifted' into the
environment very quickly (yum -c http://patth_to_repo_file install
master_rpm).  As someone else pointed out, we have to do some extra work
to detect whether we are running at build time, as an install, or as an
upgrade, but we have that figured out for our environment and stashed
into our spec file templates.

In an environment where I had to manage the servers as well, then puppet
or cfengine or Red Hat Satellite/Spacewalk, etc, etc would definitely be
in the mix.

--
Jim Wildman, CISSP, RHCE   j...@rossberry.com http://www.rossberry.com
Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best
state, is a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.
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Re: [CentOS] Point Releases Question

2009-09-14 Thread Lanny Marcus
On 9/14/09, Jorge Fábregas jorge.fabre...@gmail.com wrote:
 Let say 5.4 goes out today;  If I fully update (today) my 5.2 system...will
 it
 be equivalent to 5.4 (all RPM packages with same version/release number?)?
 Or is it possible for the new point release to include NEW packages that
 weren't on the base relase (in this case CentOS 5)?

Previous replies did not mention that if your box is a server, for
security reasons, you should not be running 5.2 at this time. You
should be running 5.3 and fully updated.  Read the Release Notes,
before upgrading.
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Re: [CentOS] [Found] CentOS is dead, long live CentOS

2009-09-14 Thread William L. Maltby

On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 13:42 -0500, Ron Blizzard wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:35 AM, David Suhendrik da...@pnyet.web.id wrote:
 
  =D, Someone make me confused, and just a make sure here...
  I'm so sorry for this...
 
 I was worried too, on the day I first saw the message. But I found (on
 that day) that the worst that would have happened would have been a
 name change for the distribution -- and now even that issue is no
 longer a problem.
 

To all:

It's natural for folks to worry, somteimes needlessly, when disruptions
are discovered. But one should not let their emotions drive their
behavior - i.e. worry, in and of itself, is not a useful strategy.

Rather, taek that initial worry, understand what causes it, mix it
with your knowledge of the project's longer-term hisory, your judgment
of the individuals (developed over years of watching them), sit back,
have a cold beverage and engage the patience switch.

Wory should continue only if you see activity counter to
desires/expectations. It should not be bolstered by an (apparent) lack
of activity as that is only the results of necessary behind-the-scenes
machinations, delays as multiple responsibilities compete for time and
attention, etc. Of course, if *extended* periods (depending on your
level of subservience to the immediate gratification impulse) occurs,
then one should rationally switch modes to worry again.

To the Centos crew, you should have patience with the occasional users
that are unable to exercise such patience because, as we all know, there
is nothing more worrisome or louder than an extended silence.

Perhaps an aperiodic post, taking very little time, of the small steps
taken/accomplished would help assuage the savage beast?

-- 
Bill

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[CentOS] SUMMARY : Repair Filesystem prompt , after inode has illegal blocks ; qla2xxx message on reboot

2009-09-14 Thread McCulloch, Alan
hi All,

thanks for the responses.

After being dropped into the

# Filesystem repair

prompt,

(  on account of inode 27344909 has illegal blocks )

following warm reboot (via reboot) after finding (SAN ) filesystem in 
read-only
mode yesterday morning (possibly because of HBA fault on SAN) , I ran

fsck -r /data

(Linux version 2.6.18-92.1.18.el5 , Red Hat 4.1.2-42 , ext3 filesystem)

This took a couple of hours or so , prompting me for various changes
all of which I accepted. This appeared to complete OK, but then the
system would not boot, with the following error from the qla2xxx driver.

.
.
qla2xxx :05:0d.0: Mailbox command timeout occurred. Scheduling ISP abort.
qla2xxx :05:0d.0: Mailbox command timeout occurred. Scheduling ISP abort.
.
etc

However after powering down the system and cold-booting, the system was able
to boot up and mount the repaired filesystem without any obvious damage, but 
with
abnormal not to mention scary looking boot messages  and ongoing warnings from
multipath.

This morning (as I sort of expected) the filesystem had dropped back down to 
read-only mode, but meanwhile
the source of our woes was identified, a fibre port on the SAN controller which 
was degraded but not
completely failed,  so that there had been no clean failover to the twin 
controller, and therefore a degraded
virtual device was presented to the O/S, with consequence for the filesystem.

After that port and controller was quarantined, this time around I did a cold 
power-off reboot
of the server , and this time there was a more normal looking boot and the 
filesystem
came up normally without any repair being requested.

(My hypothesis is that in this situation - i.e. ext3 filesystem has put itself 
in read-only mode -
a warm boot , via reboot, does not cleanly remount the filesystem and apply the 
journal
quite like a cold power-off reboot does. I think it is likely that the lengthy
session of me answering yes to fsck's interactive repair, the first time 
around, simply applied all of the
fixes that would automatically have been done from the journal , had I 
cold-rebooted in the first place.
However that is only a hunch. But I will be making sure to do cold power-off 
reboots in general, in
future.)

Another lesson is that a sophisticated system of twin SAN controllers with 
failover does not protect
against a situation where a device is degrading  rather than failing completely.

Thanks again for the responses and sorry if my questions were a bit basic but I 
have
been dropped  in a little out of my depth with this system.

Cheers

AMcC





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