[cfaussie] CF + Java + Jabber XMPP + Ajax wrapped in Web 2 = ?
Hi everyone, I just wanted to share a CF/Java project that we have recently launched. The site is Oasis Active (www.oasisactive.com). It is fully developed in Coldfusion 7 with a lot of web 2 concepts. The site is entirely developed using Ajax (with back button support of course!) - and is just really cool! It utilises an advanced messaging and presence service using the Jabber protocol and Openfire. The instant messaging can connect on the direct jabber ports directly from the client or downgrade automatically to http binding when firewalled. Messaging and presence is instant. instant instant! (I had to learn the Jabber protocol.. aargh!) If anyone is interested in any of the principles behind this site let me know and I would be happy to talk about them - especially jabber. I hope someone finds this interesting. Enjoy! Daniel --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF + Java + Jabber XMPP + Ajax wrapped in Web 2 = ?
Openfire... by www.igniterealtime.org We had to develop our own plugins and extend the protocol a bit to support what we wanted, but their software is great and open source. On Jul 26, 7:15 pm, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But Daniel on a side note, what Jabber Server software did you end up using. Our main prodocut here is going to be in the process of using something very soon, and would be interested to know what you ended up using. On 7/26/07, Daniel Haigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah. ok. On Jul 26, 6:59 pm, M@ Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd say its Web 1.5.2beta On 7/26/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel, After having a quick look I really see no evidence of Web2.0, however I really would not call using Ajax as Web2.0 Ajax is technology that can be used on Web2.0 and is not a definition of what Web2.0 is.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd.www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF + Java + Jabber XMPP + Ajax wrapped in Web 2 = ?
Yeah. ok. On Jul 26, 6:59 pm, M@ Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd say its Web 1.5.2beta On 7/26/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel, After having a quick look I really see no evidence of Web2.0, however I really would not call using Ajax as Web2.0 Ajax is technology that can be used on Web2.0 and is not a definition of what Web2.0 is.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF + Java + Jabber XMPP + Ajax wrapped in Web 2 = ?
If anyone lives in Melbourne we actually have started a Web2.0 usergroup, so if anyone is interested then I can give you the details when we are going to met next as soon as I get them. On 7/26/07, Daniel Haigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah. ok. On Jul 26, 6:59 pm, M@ Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd say its Web 1.5.2beta On 7/26/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel, After having a quick look I really see no evidence of Web2.0, however I really would not call using Ajax as Web2.0 Ajax is technology that can be used on Web2.0 and is not a definition of what Web2.0 is.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF + Java + Jabber XMPP + Ajax wrapped in Web 2 = ?
So what would make Oasis a Web 2.0 site? On Jul 26, 7:12 pm, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No you are wrong, not that is bad because that was what I thought too. But after working at Aegeon and preaching Web2.0 and Enterprise 2.0 I soon learned how wrong I was. On 7/26/07, Daniel Haigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting - how do you define Web 2.0? Its about the user experience.. colour etc.. right? maybe I'm wrong? On Jul 26, 6:43 pm, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel, After having a quick look I really see no evidence of Web2.0, however I really would not call using Ajax as Web2.0 Ajax is technology that can be used on Web2.0 and is not a definition of what Web2.0 is. On 7/26/07, Daniel Haigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, I just wanted to share a CF/Java project that we have recently launched. The site is Oasis Active (www.oasisactive.com). It is fully developed in Coldfusion 7 with a lot of web 2 concepts. The site is entirely developed using Ajax (with back button support of course!) - and is just really cool! It utilises an advanced messaging and presence service using the Jabber protocol and Openfire. The instant messaging can connect on the direct jabber ports directly from the client or downgrade automatically to http binding when firewalled. Messaging and presence is instant. instant instant! (I had to learn the Jabber protocol.. aargh!) If anyone is interested in any of the principles behind this site let me know and I would be happy to talk about them - especially jabber. I hope someone finds this interesting. Enjoy! Daniel -- Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd.www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd.www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF + Java + Jabber XMPP + Ajax wrapped in Web 2 = ?
Read more here http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/tim/news/2005/09/30/what-is-web-20.html On 7/26/07, Daniel Haigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what would make Oasis a Web 2.0 site? On Jul 26, 7:12 pm, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No you are wrong, not that is bad because that was what I thought too. But after working at Aegeon and preaching Web2.0 and Enterprise 2.0 I soon learned how wrong I was. On 7/26/07, Daniel Haigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting - how do you define Web 2.0? Its about the user experience.. colour etc.. right? maybe I'm wrong? On Jul 26, 6:43 pm, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel, After having a quick look I really see no evidence of Web2.0, however I really would not call using Ajax as Web2.0 Ajax is technology that can be used on Web2.0 and is not a definition of what Web2.0 is. On 7/26/07, Daniel Haigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, I just wanted to share a CF/Java project that we have recently launched. The site is Oasis Active (www.oasisactive.com). It is fully developed in Coldfusion 7 with a lot of web 2 concepts. The site is entirely developed using Ajax (with back button support of course!) - and is just really cool! It utilises an advanced messaging and presence service using the Jabber protocol and Openfire. The instant messaging can connect on the direct jabber ports directly from the client or downgrade automatically to http binding when firewalled. Messaging and presence is instant. instant instant! (I had to learn the Jabber protocol.. aargh!) If anyone is interested in any of the principles behind this site let me know and I would be happy to talk about them - especially jabber. I hope someone finds this interesting. Enjoy! Daniel -- Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd.www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd.www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF + Java + Jabber XMPP + Ajax wrapped in Web 2 = ?
We updated two client libraries you can find on the web... one in flash (jabberflash) for the direct connection and the other in javascript supporting http binding (jsjac). On Jul 26, 7:17 pm, Daniel Haigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Openfire... bywww.igniterealtime.org We had to develop our own plugins and extend the protocol a bit to support what we wanted, but their software is great and open source. On Jul 26, 7:15 pm, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But Daniel on a side note, what Jabber Server software did you end up using. Our main prodocut here is going to be in the process of using something very soon, and would be interested to know what you ended up using. On 7/26/07, Daniel Haigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah. ok. On Jul 26, 6:59 pm, M@ Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd say its Web 1.5.2beta On 7/26/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel, After having a quick look I really see no evidence of Web2.0, however I really would not call using Ajax as Web2.0 Ajax is technology that can be used on Web2.0 and is not a definition of what Web2.0 is.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd.www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF8 free upgrade (buy cfmx7 now or wait?)
Hi guys, I'm in the unfortunate position where I HAVE to get a license of ColdFusion on a server by Monday at the latest. Of course I'm waiting for 8 like everyone else, I called Adobe and they said although they have 'free upgrades' to other Adobe software (like creative suite CS3) they haven't heard anything about ColdFusion. I've read mentioned (and thought about it myself) installing the trial version of CFMX 7 Standard on a production server then upgrade to 8. Providing v8 was out within 30 days would this actually work? Would you need a fresh uninstall/re-install? Just trying to figure out options and possible downtime etc. On Jul 26, 11:16 am, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that's a fair point, Andrew. The 1st July (Buntel's Middle of the year) might have come and gone but it mustn't be too far away, surely. the idea of a 30 day enterprise would probably be a good bet. The thing is that the launch party... you just have to remember that it's A launch party, not THE launch party. I mean have you seen it mentioned anywhere Adobe-official? is there any word on the Adobe labs site? Can that date be proved? anything else is pure speculation, surely? Perhaps it's just getting in early to advertise an event because, by reckoning, it must be soon-ish, running the risk that the following month will probably be too late for a party. bah humbug, my 2c only. What would I know? barry.b On 7/26/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The thing is that the launch party... Why would they have it then release the product a month later? On 7/25/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, You are right, it's a guess. But I would say a safe bet. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Onnis Sent: Wednesday, 25 July 2007 8:16 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF8 free upgrade (buy cfmx7 now or wait?) It will? you know something the rest of us dont? From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Fraser Sent: Wednesday, 25 July 2007 7:10 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF8 free upgrade (buy cfmx7 now or wait?) I'd wait, Unless you want to buy a subscription, just wait. They may release with a if you purchased in the last 30 days policy, but it's a gamble. Just get your client on the 30 day Enterprise Trial, then buy CF8, it will be out within 30 days. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Scott Sent: Wednesday, 25 July 2007 6:46 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF8 free upgrade (buy cfmx7 now or wait?) nor return phone calls either. On 7/25/07, Taco Fleur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'm dealing with a bit of a difficult supplier who basically told me the following when all I simply asked was whether our client would receive a free upgrade to CFMX8. I can not be discussing the new version release dates or information with you at all and distributors do not get involved in any free upgrade issues. That will be the responsibility of the end user(Your customer) Just wondering where I should go to to ask this question? I know knocking on Adobes door is wasted time as they never reply to any email send to them. Does anyone know? Thanks in advance. -- http://www.clickfind.com.au The new Australian search engine for businesses, products and services Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 BR Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF + Java + Jabber XMPP + Ajax wrapped in Web 2 = ?
On Jul 26, 6:34 pm, Daniel Haigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, I just wanted to share a CF/Java project that we have recently launched. The site is Oasis Active (www.oasisactive.com). It is fully developed in Coldfusion 7 with So I clicked on the link and went to the site, now my wife thinks I'm trying to get a bit on the side. I told her that I thought it was about Noel and Liam but she didn't believe me. Stephen a lot of web 2 concepts. The site is entirely developed using Ajax (with back button support of course!) - and is just really cool! It utilises an advanced messaging and presence service using the Jabber protocol and Openfire. The instant messaging can connect on the direct jabber ports directly from the client or downgrade automatically to http binding when firewalled. Messaging and presence is instant. instant instant! (I had to learn the Jabber protocol.. aargh!) If anyone is interested in any of the principles behind this site let me know and I would be happy to talk about them - especially jabber. I hope someone finds this interesting. Enjoy! Daniel --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] CF 5 and SQL 2005
Hi all, Insert extremely obvious idea to upgrade here - ___ Has anyone successfully managed to connect a CF5 server to an SQL 2005 instance? thanks. Ryan Sabir Technical Director p: (02) 9274 8030 f: (02) 9274 8099 m: 0411 512 454 w: www.newgency.comNewgency Pty Ltd Web | Multimedia | eMarketing 115 Cooper St Surry Hills NSW 2010 Sydney, Australia --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF 5 and SQL 2005
that would be ODBC in CF5 Land On 7/27/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes... You need to use a JDBC driver that supports MS SQL2005 though. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Sabir *Sent:* Friday, 27 July 2007 11:54 AM *To:* 'cfaussie@googlegroups.com' *Subject:* [cfaussie] CF 5 and SQL 2005 Hi all, Insert extremely obvious idea to upgrade here - ___ Has anyone successfully managed to connect a CF5 server to an SQL 2005 instance? thanks. *Ryan Sabir* Technical Director *p:* (02) 9274 8030 *f:* (02) 9274 8099 *m:* 0411 512 454 *w:* www.newgency.com *Newgency Pty Ltd* Web | Multimedia | eMarketing 115 Cooper St Surry Hills NSW 2010 Sydney, Australia -- Zac Spitzer http://zacster.blogspot.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF 5 and SQL 2005
Yes... You need to use a JDBC driver that supports MS SQL2005 though. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Sabir Sent: Friday, 27 July 2007 11:54 AM To: 'cfaussie@googlegroups.com' Subject: [cfaussie] CF 5 and SQL 2005 Hi all, Insert extremely obvious idea to upgrade here - ___ Has anyone successfully managed to connect a CF5 server to an SQL 2005 instance? thanks. http://www.newgency.com/footerImages/logo.gif Ryan Sabir Technical Director p: (02) 9274 8030 f: (02) 9274 8099 m: 0411 512 454 w: http://www.newgency.com/ www.newgency.com http://www.newgency.com/footerImages/divider.gif Newgency Pty Ltd Web | Multimedia | eMarketing 115 Cooper St Surry Hills NSW 2010 Sydney, Australia --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF8 free upgrade (buy cfmx7 now or wait?)
Robin, I agree with you, but if they release on 8/8 then people (including myself) will think that this was always the date and they worked to this date and not when the software was necessarily ready. I don't have a problem with this, it's a deadline and if you don't set deadlines then the release can be dragged back and back for a long time. We will just have to wait and see what Wednesday week holds. Mind you there are probably people on this list that know already. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robin Hilliard Sent: Friday, 27 July 2007 10:38 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF8 free upgrade (buy cfmx7 now or wait?) On 27/07/2007, at 9:48 AM, Dale Fraser wrote: I really don't know why Adobe are playing these games, just hurting sales I would have thought. Why announce Launch Parties and not announce Release and Pricing. Hey Dale, Remember when Macromedia didn't have public betas and was really tight lipped about its release timetables etc? In the old days Tim Buntel wouldn't have been able to say |Middle| of 2007 at WebDU, and the first you would have heard about a new release would be... when it was released. As you know you cant fix a software release date without compromising quality (mumble MX2004 mumble) and I'd rather see a release up to a few months late than released with bugs, particularly for a server product. You're right that it probably hurts sales, but that's always the tradeoff for software companies being more open about releases. And everyone remember, license subscriptions were created precisely for this reason, to allow you to buy CF at any time without having to worry about release timing. So, we can't have it both ways, but I'm sure you and the rest of the CF community would agree that the current situation is as Jack Aubrey would say the lesser of two weevils. Cheers, Robin Robin Hilliard CEO - RocketBoots Pty Limited Consulting . Recruitment . Software Licensing . Training http://www.rocketboots.com.au m+61 418 414 341 e[EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF8 free upgrade (buy cfmx7 now or wait?)
@Dale 8/8 Release is most likely. you're right, it certianly sounds good: CF8 on the 8th of the 8th** besides, when do people need an excuse to have a party? Bring it on. @Andrew Was there this much excitement for v7? well the beta CF8 seems to have heaps of stuff in it, Charlie Arehart's Gems presso just kept rolling out the ... er... gems... and besides, CF7 didn't seem to suffer the rubbish journalism about CF being dead. Now's a time to prove them wrong with a bit of a fuss. As I said before - who needs an excuse to par-tae? ** I'm just despondent that I didn't get my release date guess: http://www.bennadel.com/coldfusion/contest.htm --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF8 free upgrade (buy cfmx7 now or wait?)
On 27/07/2007, at 9:48 AM, Dale Fraser wrote: I really don't know why Adobe are playing these games, just hurting sales I would have thought. Why announce Launch Parties and not announce Release and Pricing. Hey Dale, Remember when Macromedia didn't have public betas and was really tight lipped about its release timetables etc? In the old days Tim Buntel wouldn't have been able to say |Middle| of 2007 at WebDU, and the first you would have heard about a new release would be... when it was released. As you know you cant fix a software release date without compromising quality (mumble MX2004 mumble) and I'd rather see a release up to a few months late than released with bugs, particularly for a server product. You're right that it probably hurts sales, but that's always the tradeoff for software companies being more open about releases. And everyone remember, license subscriptions were created precisely for this reason, to allow you to buy CF at any time without having to worry about release timing. So, we can't have it both ways, but I'm sure you and the rest of the CF community would agree that the current situation is as Jack Aubrey would say the lesser of two weevils. Cheers, Robin Robin Hilliard CEO - RocketBoots Pty Limited Consulting . Recruitment . Software Licensing . Training http://www.rocketboots.com.au m+61 418 414 341 e[EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF8 free upgrade (buy cfmx7 now or wait?)
so long as they don't hold out for 08/08/08 And the good thing about the 08/08 date is it wont matter how you display your dates :-) [MM/DD | DD/MM] Was there this much excitement for v7? On 7/27/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But he says Official And their site doesn't, thus it's some official Launch. Anyway 8/8 Release is most likely. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Beattie Sent: Friday, 27 July 2007 10:21 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF8 free upgrade (buy cfmx7 now or wait?) @Dale, that's what I'm saying: the Adobe user group are not Adobe employees. they're an old, experianced CFUG Ben is blogging about. their name is just blurring the lines between the definitive and indefinite articles (a vs an) in their name. the link goes to here: About UseAdobe is the #1 site for Adobe Fans! That's right, we're talking Adobe FANATICS! Our site and our meetings are dedicated to designers, developers and everyday business users who LOVE Adobe software products. Way back in 1996 ... We founded the very first ever ColdFusion User Group aka CFUG. Back then, ColdFusion was made by the Allaire Corporation. Years later, Allaire and Macromedia merged, bringing together great software products such as Flash and ColdFusion, among others. That's when the CFUG merged with the long-running Washington Area Macromedia Organization (WAMMO). We opperated WAMMO just like the CFUGs with monthly meetings featuring great speakers like Ben Forta, Steve Drucker, Dave Watts, Mike Chambers, Dave Gruber, Tim Buntel and others. Members loved the chewy goodness of the technical presentations and the plentiful code samples. Following the acquisition of Macromedia by Adobe, we thought carefully about what our user group means to those that participate. We realized that this larger company serves many more types of users; designers, developers, business people and people from all walks of life who experience the results of what has been created using Adobe software. This site is for you ... the Adobe user! It is for all of us. We invite you to stand up, say your name and proudly proclaim: I UseAdobe. Fanatically Yours, Bret Peters --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF8 free upgrade (buy cfmx7 now or wait?)
Yes it would work. Download and install the CF8 Trial, install as 30 day not developer, which means you get full features. When CF8 is released (safe bet for 30 days) backup your settings in a CAR then Uninstall CF7 Install CF8 Restore your settings. An upgrade might work also, but I couldn't tell you yet, the above method will definitely work. I really don't know why Adobe are playing these games, just hurting sales I would have thought. Why announce Launch Parties and not announce Release and Pricing. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of michael sharman Sent: Thursday, 26 July 2007 10:47 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF8 free upgrade (buy cfmx7 now or wait?) Hi guys, I'm in the unfortunate position where I HAVE to get a license of ColdFusion on a server by Monday at the latest. Of course I'm waiting for 8 like everyone else, I called Adobe and they said although they have 'free upgrades' to other Adobe software (like creative suite CS3) they haven't heard anything about ColdFusion. I've read mentioned (and thought about it myself) installing the trial version of CFMX 7 Standard on a production server then upgrade to 8. Providing v8 was out within 30 days would this actually work? Would you need a fresh uninstall/re-install? Just trying to figure out options and possible downtime etc. On Jul 26, 11:16 am, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that's a fair point, Andrew. The 1st July (Buntel's Middle of the year) might have come and gone but it mustn't be too far away, surely. the idea of a 30 day enterprise would probably be a good bet. The thing is that the launch party... you just have to remember that it's A launch party, not THE launch party. I mean have you seen it mentioned anywhere Adobe-official? is there any word on the Adobe labs site? Can that date be proved? anything else is pure speculation, surely? Perhaps it's just getting in early to advertise an event because, by reckoning, it must be soon-ish, running the risk that the following month will probably be too late for a party. bah humbug, my 2c only. What would I know? barry.b On 7/26/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The thing is that the launch party... Why would they have it then release the product a month later? On 7/25/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, You are right, it's a guess. But I would say a safe bet. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Onnis Sent: Wednesday, 25 July 2007 8:16 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF8 free upgrade (buy cfmx7 now or wait?) It will? you know something the rest of us dont? From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Fraser Sent: Wednesday, 25 July 2007 7:10 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF8 free upgrade (buy cfmx7 now or wait?) I'd wait, Unless you want to buy a subscription, just wait. They may release with a if you purchased in the last 30 days policy, but it's a gamble. Just get your client on the 30 day Enterprise Trial, then buy CF8, it will be out within 30 days. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Scott Sent: Wednesday, 25 July 2007 6:46 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF8 free upgrade (buy cfmx7 now or wait?) nor return phone calls either. On 7/25/07, Taco Fleur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'm dealing with a bit of a difficult supplier who basically told me the following when all I simply asked was whether our client would receive a free upgrade to CFMX8. I can not be discussing the new version release dates or information with you at all and distributors do not get involved in any free upgrade issues. That will be the responsibility of the end user(Your customer) Just wondering where I should go to to ask this question? I know knocking on Adobes door is wasted time as they never reply to any email send to them. Does anyone know? Thanks in advance. -- http://www.clickfind.com.au The new Australian search engine for businesses, products and services Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 BR Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at
[cfaussie] Re: CF + Java + Jabber XMPP + Ajax wrapped in Web 2 = ?
Daniel, in a nutshell, what role did CF play in the architecture? where was the split between CF and Java? just curious, that's all On 7/26/07, Daniel Haigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We updated two client libraries you can find on the web... one in flash (jabberflash) for the direct connection and the other in javascript supporting http binding (jsjac). On Jul 26, 7:17 pm, Daniel Haigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Openfire... bywww.igniterealtime.org We had to develop our own plugins and extend the protocol a bit to support what we wanted, but their software is great and open source. On Jul 26, 7:15 pm, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But Daniel on a side note, what Jabber Server software did you end up using. Our main prodocut here is going to be in the process of using something very soon, and would be interested to know what you ended up using. On 7/26/07, Daniel Haigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah. ok. On Jul 26, 6:59 pm, M@ Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd say its Web 1.5.2beta On 7/26/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel, After having a quick look I really see no evidence of Web2.0, however I really would not call using Ajax as Web2.0 Ajax is technology that can be used on Web2.0 and is not a definition of what Web2.0 is.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd.www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: List Etiquette
wha??? the job ad was posted to cfjobs. On 7/26/07, ACTCFUG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I left the list but still received the job ad from you yourself. Can we really leave the list and not be haunted? Last straw for me was winging about the user group library. Yes the books at my house - and am fast runing out of room to keep them - but I only get books that are related to web development, programming, and parralel tech. Yes some books are old but still pertinent (eg 2nd edition vs 3rd edition) and as I do not own them myself I have to make room for them. Great books, lively library - would be nice to have the time to read them all myself. Join the ACTCFUG (for free) to access our extensive library. -- geoffhttp://www.daemon.com.au/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF + Java + Jabber XMPP + Ajax wrapped in Web 2 = ?
I'd say its Web 1.5.2beta On 7/26/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel, After having a quick look I really see no evidence of Web2.0, however I really would not call using Ajax as Web2.0 Ajax is technology that can be used on Web2.0 and is not a definition of what Web2.0 is. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
