[cfaussie] Re: frustrated CF newbie

[Andrew Scott]

What version of Coldfusion are you using?

If you are using pre Coldfusion 8, then might I suggest these 2 products
Fusion-Reactor & Fusion-Debug.

If you are using Coldfusion 8, then might I suggest using the Monitor and
Line Debugger.

These 2 options can be invaluable towards debugging and optimising your
code.



Andrew Scott
Senior Coldfusion Developer
Aegeon Pty. Ltd.
www.aegeon.com.au
Phone: +613  9015 8628
Mobile: 0404 998 273




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Of nedlud
Sent: Friday, 23 May 2008 2:27 PM
To: cfaussie
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: frustrated CF newbie



For what it's worth, I seem to have resolved this issue by optimising
some of the sql queries.

I still can't claim to understand exactly what the problem was, but by
using *a lot* of cfdump statments, I found that a particular query
occasionaly ran *way* slow (we are using MySQL 4.1). Adding an index,
and optimising some queries to use joins instead of sub-queries seems
to have made the problem go away.

At least I can say it doesn't seem to have been my coldfusion code
that was at fault.


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[cfaussie] Re: variable name confusion

[Andrew Scott]

@Kevin: I will agree even after the length of time I have been developing,
changes to the syntax make me a n00b at times.

 

@nedlud: Unless you read the Coldfusions Manuals (if either you have
purchased / or read online), these sort of enhancements become unknown
unless someone else points it out to you. I know that I have purchased the
manuals, just because of all the new Ajax UI and enhancements.  But there is
so much more to Coldfusion 8 that even I will lay claim to not knowing as
yet.

 

 

 

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www.aegeon.com.au
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Mobile: 0404 998 273

 

 


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[cfaussie] Re: variable name confusion

[Andrew Scott]

Should be





Andrew Scott
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From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of nedlud
Sent: Friday, 23 May 2008 1:40 PM
To: cfaussie
Subject: [cfaussie] variable name confusion


I have an app that gets included on three seperate pages withing the
same domain (pages A, B, C all use app X). On each page where it gets
used, I use a cookie to store user preferences. The preferences need
to be unique to where the app gets used, so I dynamicly create the
cookie name depending on which page it gets loaded from (page As
cookie is called cookie A, page Bs cookie is called cookie B, etc)

The following code seems to work for naming and setting the cookies...




My trouble starts when I'm trying to read the value of the cookie on
the next visit.



This isn't working since it's loking for a cookie with the liiteral
name of "cname" instead of the value of "cname".

How do I resolve this?



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[cfaussie] Re: frustrated CF newbie

[nedlud]

For what it's worth, I seem to have resolved this issue by optimising
some of the sql queries.

I still can't claim to understand exactly what the problem was, but by
using *a lot* of cfdump statments, I found that a particular query
occasionaly ran *way* slow (we are using MySQL 4.1). Adding an index,
and optimising some queries to use joins instead of sub-queries seems
to have made the problem go away.

At least I can say it doesn't seem to have been my coldfusion code
that was at fault.
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[cfaussie] Re: variable name confusion

[Kevin Pepperman]

We are all newbie's at something or other... I think I learned this trick
years ago the same way you did, by asking in a list.

I am glad it worked for you.

On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 12:22 AM, nedlud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Brilliant!
>
> Thanks, that's exactly what I needed.
>
> 
>
> I was unaware of this syntax. (Does my newbie status show?)
>
> Thanks heaps.
>
>
> On May 23, 2:06 pm, "Kevin Pepperman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The variable you are using
> >
> > 
> >
> > when looking a the cookie dump:
> > 
> >
> > is producing a cookie named "appname_pagename"
> >
> > If thats what you intended then you could read the cookie like this
> >
> > 
> > or
> > 
> >
> > But I am going to assume you intended to use dynamic variables here.
> >
> > 
> > 
> >
> > you can get the cookie value like this if the pagename is dynamic.
> >
> > 
> >
> > or like this if both are dynamic
> >
> > eg:
> > 
> > 
> >
> > 
> >
> > I hope that helps.
> >
>  > On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 11:40 PM, nedlud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > I have an app that gets included on three seperate pages withing the
> > > same domain (pages A, B, C all use app X). On each page where it gets
> > > used, I use a cookie to store user preferences. The preferences need
> > > to be unique to where the app gets used, so I dynamicly create the
> > > cookie name depending on which page it gets loaded from (page As
> > > cookie is called cookie A, page Bs cookie is called cookie B, etc)
> >
> > > The following code seems to work for naming and setting the cookies...
> >
> > > 
> > > 
> >
> > > My trouble starts when I'm trying to read the value of the cookie on
> > > the next visit.
> >
> > > 
> >
> > > This isn't working since it's loking for a cookie with the liiteral
> > > name of "cname" instead of the value of "cname".
> >
> > > How do I resolve this?
> >
>

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[cfaussie] Re: variable name confusion

[nedlud]

Brilliant!

Thanks, that's exactly what I needed.



I was unaware of this syntax. (Does my newbie status show?)

Thanks heaps.


On May 23, 2:06 pm, "Kevin Pepperman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The variable you are using
>
> 
>
> when looking a the cookie dump:
> 
>
> is producing a cookie named "appname_pagename"
>
> If thats what you intended then you could read the cookie like this
>
> 
> or
> 
>
> But I am going to assume you intended to use dynamic variables here.
>
> 
> 
>
> you can get the cookie value like this if the pagename is dynamic.
>
> 
>
> or like this if both are dynamic
>
> eg:
> 
> 
>
> 
>
> I hope that helps.
>
> On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 11:40 PM, nedlud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I have an app that gets included on three seperate pages withing the
> > same domain (pages A, B, C all use app X). On each page where it gets
> > used, I use a cookie to store user preferences. The preferences need
> > to be unique to where the app gets used, so I dynamicly create the
> > cookie name depending on which page it gets loaded from (page As
> > cookie is called cookie A, page Bs cookie is called cookie B, etc)
>
> > The following code seems to work for naming and setting the cookies...
>
> > 
> > 
>
> > My trouble starts when I'm trying to read the value of the cookie on
> > the next visit.
>
> > 
>
> > This isn't working since it's loking for a cookie with the liiteral
> > name of "cname" instead of the value of "cname".
>
> > How do I resolve this?
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[cfaussie] Re: variable name confusion

[Dale Fraser]

Well you need to know what cname literal was and access it that way.

So if cname = "dale"

COOKIE.dale

Or

COOKIE['dale']

Or

Cookie[cname]

If you don't know or have the literal value of cname you have no hope of
finding it surely.

Regards
Dale Fraser
http://learncf.com
http://flexcf.com


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From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of nedlud
Sent: Friday, 23 May 2008 1:40 PM
To: cfaussie
Subject: [cfaussie] variable name confusion


I have an app that gets included on three seperate pages withing the
same domain (pages A, B, C all use app X). On each page where it gets
used, I use a cookie to store user preferences. The preferences need
to be unique to where the app gets used, so I dynamicly create the
cookie name depending on which page it gets loaded from (page As
cookie is called cookie A, page Bs cookie is called cookie B, etc)

The following code seems to work for naming and setting the cookies...




My trouble starts when I'm trying to read the value of the cookie on
the next visit.



This isn't working since it's loking for a cookie with the liiteral
name of "cname" instead of the value of "cname".

How do I resolve this?



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[cfaussie] Re: variable name confusion

[Kevin Pepperman]

The variable you are using



when looking a the cookie dump:


is producing a cookie named "appname_pagename"

If thats what you intended then you could read the cookie like this


or


But I am going to assume you intended to use dynamic variables here.




you can get the cookie value like this if the pagename is dynamic.



or like this if both are dynamic

eg:





I hope that helps.



On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 11:40 PM, nedlud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> I have an app that gets included on three seperate pages withing the
> same domain (pages A, B, C all use app X). On each page where it gets
> used, I use a cookie to store user preferences. The preferences need
> to be unique to where the app gets used, so I dynamicly create the
> cookie name depending on which page it gets loaded from (page As
> cookie is called cookie A, page Bs cookie is called cookie B, etc)
>
> The following code seems to work for naming and setting the cookies...
>
> 
> 
>
> My trouble starts when I'm trying to read the value of the cookie on
> the next visit.
>
> 
>
> This isn't working since it's loking for a cookie with the liiteral
> name of "cname" instead of the value of "cname".
>
> How do I resolve this?
>
> >
>

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[cfaussie] variable name confusion

[nedlud]

I have an app that gets included on three seperate pages withing the
same domain (pages A, B, C all use app X). On each page where it gets
used, I use a cookie to store user preferences. The preferences need
to be unique to where the app gets used, so I dynamicly create the
cookie name depending on which page it gets loaded from (page As
cookie is called cookie A, page Bs cookie is called cookie B, etc)

The following code seems to work for naming and setting the cookies...




My trouble starts when I'm trying to read the value of the cookie on
the next visit.



This isn't working since it's loking for a cookie with the liiteral
name of "cname" instead of the value of "cname".

How do I resolve this?

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[cfaussie] Re: Microsoft Uses Flash!!!

[Scott Barnes]

You forgot accomodation, spending money needs a bit more padding as well.
That and transfers between hotels etc. Oh and dinners oh and lunches...

On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Plane Tickets $2k pp = $8k
>
> Spending Money $2k
>
> Total = $10k
>
>
>
> Which means $5-$10k worth of coke, no wonder your body gets confused :)
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Dale Fraser
>
> http://learncf.com
>
> http://flexcf.com
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On
> Behalf Of *Scott Barnes
> *Sent:* Thursday, 22 May 2008 5:03 AM
> *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* [cfaussie] Re: Microsoft Uses Flash!!!
>
>
>
> Or for Disneyland packages:
>
>
>
> "Come to Disneyland, spend 15hrs on a plane, pay around $15-20k in total
> for 4 people only to line up for 60mins per ride in 35 degree heat with
> little or no shade whilst drinking Coke (see below) that has enormous
> amounts of Corn Syrup which your body gets confused over and decides to
> store as fat" - Believe in the Magic.
>
>
>
> (sorry, that was my exp anyway heheh). Anyway it's about promoting a
> experience, people want to hear the positives and the experience associated
> to the said products, it's the glass is always half full
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> Nope, more towards the one after yours.
>
>
>
> As for the "Widgetsoft"... fair enough, don't agree but understand with
> regards to your current opinion. Everything someone does to promote a
> product will have marketing spin to it, as all marketers are liars (Seth
> Godin). I mean would you buy coke if it had on the package:
>
>
>
> "Will rot your teeth, give you a massive sugar high with an equal massively
> low to follow and although you assume you're re-hydrating your body, you're
> in fact dehydrating it more"
>
>
>
> Scott.
>
> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:24 PM, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Scott, it you're referring to my post in this thread,  I specifcally
> said that it isnt a "Microsoft is the evil empire" rant.  It's about
> how so many people (not just Microsoft but they're the most prominent
> offender in my view) think that merely using the name of something is
> enough.
>
> How many times have we all seen someone announce proudly that 'version
> 3.2 of WIdgetSoft is now released!!"  and wondered, "what the hell is
> WIdgetSoft?"
>
> I have a machine that's groaning under the weight of around 100
> processes.  It's working ok, but if i installed everything that people
> wanted me to install, then I'd end up with a bazillion conflicts and a
> whole lot of precious RAM used up for things i don't need.  As it is,
> i havent got a clue what some of those 100 processes are.   I just
> know that if i close some of them, things break.  So I leave them
> running, and trust my anti-virus to make sure they're all ok. So
> my policy is 'just because someone says i need to install this, is not
> good enough reason.  I need to decide for myself whether i need to
> install it."  I remember back to the days when i had Real Audio
> installed, and it kept taking charge of things and changing my
> settings, installing spyware and other things.  it was a thoroughly
> unpleasant piece of software to have on my machine.
>
> And I had two calls this week from clients asking me what this
> "Silverlight" thing is, and should they install it.   I was hoping to
> be able to call them back and say something like "yes it's ok to
> install.  have a look at  and you can see for
> yourself what it does".   But there's no such page.  The one that I
> eventually found after 5 clicks to get there by the most direct route,
> says  things like : "Custom branded experiences using 2D vector
> graphics, animation, styling, and skinning".I think i know what
> that means but it's totally meaningless to my client who's a furniture
> manufacturer.   And the other client who makes and imports
> high-performance car parts, doesnt understand the difference between
> Vista and XP.  Is confused about the difference between RAM and hard
> drive storage.I wouldnt even try to explain it to him.  It's a
> pity that Microsoft didnt think any of those uses might want to know
> what it is.
>
> Some more examples of this lack of explanation:When Windows Update
> says i need to update my machine,  i just get a message saying "you
> have some updates"  but no easy way to find out what those updates
> are, and decide whether I need them.or XPPro Service Pack 3 - says
> there are some feature enhancements included, but no way to find out
> what those enhahcements are.  (I have discovered after installing SP3
> that my Remote Desktop no longer works, so presumably the SP3 changed
> something there without my knowledge or approval.   I now have to
> spend time tracking it down and changing whatever it is back again).
>
> A few years ago, I found myself on someone's mailing list a

[cfaussie] Re: CF Meetup 8am Tommorow

[Barry Beattie]

and just to confirm

for those people who have CFMeetup blocked by their corporate Nazi's,
thinking it's a waste-of-time social site...

the actual Breezo URL is at

http://experts.acrobat.com/cfmeetup/

yes?



On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 8:01 PM, George Lu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sounds great! Dale. Just a bit earlier for me. I want to learn how to
> configure CF and Flex connection.
>
> 2008/5/22 Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>> Anyone interested in my ColdFusion and Flex talk, I'll be giving it on the
>> CF Meetup tomorrow.
>>
>>
>>
>> You can tune in or watch the recording later.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://coldfusion.meetup.com/17/calendar/7928523/
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Dale Fraser
>>
>> http://learncf.com
>>
>> http://flexcf.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> >
>

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[cfaussie] Re: coldbox

[Mark Mandel]

I've been working with Luis developing CodexWiki, and I have to say, it's a
very nice framework.

No major complaints so far ;oD

Mark

On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 8:06 PM, Peter Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> It's a great framework. Lots of very cool features, designed for
> enterprise loads, being actively developed by a great team and with
> loads of documentation and samples. It is definitely the most
> comprehensive framework in the CF world right now - from the
> documentation to the generation capability for new projects, to the
> great debugging capabilities built right in.
>
> Definitely give it a shot.
>
> Best Wishes,
> Peter
>
> On May 22, 2008, at 6:02 AM, CyberAngel wrote:
>
> >
> > Yes,
> >
> > I love it
> >
> > Follows the normal MVC framework, with some extra goodies like not
> > having to
> > define your controllers. Play with it, you'll love it.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On Behalf
> > Of mark ireland
> > Sent: Thursday, 22 May 2008 8:01 PM
> > To: cfaussie
> > Subject: [cfaussie] coldbox
> >
> >
> > Anyone on the list using ColdBox?
> >
> > Any good?
> >
> >
> > >
>
>
> >
>


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[cfaussie] Re: coldbox

[Peter Bell]

It's a great framework. Lots of very cool features, designed for  
enterprise loads, being actively developed by a great team and with  
loads of documentation and samples. It is definitely the most  
comprehensive framework in the CF world right now - from the  
documentation to the generation capability for new projects, to the  
great debugging capabilities built right in.

Definitely give it a shot.

Best Wishes,
Peter

On May 22, 2008, at 6:02 AM, CyberAngel wrote:

>
> Yes,
>
> I love it
>
> Follows the normal MVC framework, with some extra goodies like not  
> having to
> define your controllers. Play with it, you'll love it.
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
> On Behalf
> Of mark ireland
> Sent: Thursday, 22 May 2008 8:01 PM
> To: cfaussie
> Subject: [cfaussie] coldbox
>
>
> Anyone on the list using ColdBox?
>
> Any good?
>
>
> >


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[cfaussie] Re: coldbox

[CyberAngel]

Yes,

I love it

Follows the normal MVC framework, with some extra goodies like not having to
define your controllers. Play with it, you'll love it.




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Sent: Thursday, 22 May 2008 8:01 PM
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Subject: [cfaussie] coldbox


Anyone on the list using ColdBox?

Any good?


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[cfaussie] Re: CF Meetup 8am Tommorow

[George Lu]

Sounds great! Dale. Just a bit earlier for me. I want to learn how to
configure CF and Flex connection.

2008/5/22 Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>  Anyone interested in my ColdFusion and Flex talk, I'll be giving it on
> the CF Meetup tomorrow.
>
>
>
> You can tune in or watch the recording later.
>
>
>
> http://coldfusion.meetup.com/17/calendar/7928523/
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Dale Fraser
>
> http://learncf.com
>
> http://flexcf.com
>
>
>
>
>
> >
>

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[cfaussie] coldbox

[mark ireland]

Anyone on the list using ColdBox?

Any good?
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[cfaussie] CF Meetup 8am Tommorow

[Dale Fraser]

Anyone interested in my ColdFusion and Flex talk, I'll be giving it on the
CF Meetup tomorrow.

 

You can tune in or watch the recording later.

 

http://coldfusion.meetup.com/17/calendar/7928523/

 

Regards

Dale Fraser

http://learncf.com  

http://flexcf.com  

 

 


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