Stus-List 37 stemhead casting

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

I'm looking for a stemhead casting, sometimes called a bowplate, for a early
80s vintage 37.   Please forward salvage yards or other sources you may be
aware of.

 

Thanks,

Pete

 

 

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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Sounds like a couple big “ifs” out there, but assuming the cost and maintenance 
headache is less for Stu, I’ll vote forum

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stu via 
CnC-List
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 4:32 PM
To: C&C Email List
Subject: Stus-List Email List or Forum

 

Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a 
“Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list (like 
this one).

 

PROS:

1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list

2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails.

3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads.

4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums.

5. Easily moderated by more than one person.  Threads can be deleted and 
undesirable subscribers blocked.

6. No more 20-30 emails a day.  Visit the site at your convenience and view the 
latest topics since your last visit.

 

CONS:

1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional 
enhancements.

2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. 
()

3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time.  And a bit 
more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection.

 

Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list?  It 
does not matter to me.

 

Stu

 

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Re: Stus-List Auto helm and Raymarine

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Well that's pretty clear.  You Raymarine guys got it going on.

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick
G Street via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 9:48 AM
To: Bradley Lumgair; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Auto helm and Raymarine

 

Hi, Brad.  In a previous life, I was a certified Raymarine dealer/installer
and ABYC/NMEA-certified in marine electrical and electronics, so maybe I can
help out.

 

First off, yes, it was Autohelm, then Raytheon, then Raymarine; and
Raymarine went through several ownership iterations since, now being owned
by FLIR.

 

Because you've got the Autohelm autopilot, you won't be able to control the
pilot from the a95 (I'm assuming you meant little "a", not big "A", as
that's a different and older Raymarine series of MFDs); nor will you be able
to integrate it into the instruments.  They will need to be interface via
SeaTalkNG.

 

If you had a newer Raymarine wheelpilot like the ST4000, ST4000+ or newer,
you could interface it with the MFD and the instruments; but you would need
the SeaTalkNG to SeaTalk 1 converter kit to get everything to talk.

 

Email me off the list if I can help you further.

 


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

 

On Mar 2, 2015, at 9:18 AM, Bradley Lumgair via CnC-List
 wrote:





I'm trying to understand the whole auto helm thing and what works with what.
1985 C&C 33 with auto helm 4000, and Loran, obviously a problem. Purchased
Raymarine I50/I60 instrument package and A95 chartplotter (not delivered
yet) Spoke to a RayMarine rep at Toronto Boat Show who thought there
wouldn't be any issue hooking up and functioning, and the dealer I purchased
from spoke to Raymarine rep who said not likely, have to replace auto helm
as its too old (different language) I have no idea how old the autohelm is.
Is it "Autohelm" then "Raytheon" then "Raymarine" What is "seatalk" and does
that play into the language issue? Anyone have any experience with all this?
It's all new to me.
Thanks
Brad
C&C 33 MK II

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Re: Stus-List Handheld VHF with DSC

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Gary – 

I’ve been digging for the information you referenced on “purchased” after 
1/1/15.  Can you send me a link for that?  

 

Thanks,

Pete

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary 
Nylander via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 12:33 PM
To: Joel Aronson; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Handheld VHF with DSC

 

Joel, I checked with our CBYRA rep and was told that CBYRA is not the 
authority, it is PHRF of the Chesapeake. And I looked at the PHRF web site and 
it states that if the handheld is PURCHASED after 1/1/15, then it must have the 
DSC capability.

 

Gary

St. Michaels

- Original Message - 

From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List   

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 

Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 2:22 PM

Subject: Stus-List Handheld VHF with DSC

 

All, 

 

Found out that the local racing authority, CBYRA, will require a handheld VHF 
with DSC this season.

 

Looking at a Standard Horizon HX851 Handheld VHF Radio with GPS from 
theGPSStore for $125.00

 

Any reason I should not buy this unit?

 

35/3

The Office

Annapolis

Joel 
301 541 8551

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Re: Stus-List Handheld VHF with DSC

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Thanks, Russ.  I got that part.   Just trying to understand if CBYRA is
following both US Safety Requirements 3.8.1 and 3.8.2.  

 

 

 

 

From: Russ & Melody [mailto:russ...@telus.net] 
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 8:25 PM
To: Pete Shelquist; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Handheld VHF with DSC

 

Hi Pete,

Here's the original message:



All, 
Found out that the local racing authority, CBYRA, will require a handheld
VHF with DSC this season.
Looking at a Standard Horizon HX851 Handheld VHF Radio with GPS from the
GPSStore for $125.00
Any reason I should not buy this unit?
35/3

Joel 


so far the HX851 @ $125 looks like a deal

Try to keep up eh. :)

Cheers, Russ

At 06:06 PM 21/02/2015, you wrote:



Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
 boundary="=_NextPart_000_004E_01D04E11.DA72C6B0"
Content-Language: en-us

Help me understand the original requirement;  Is it to have DSC on the
vessel and it can be either a fixed or handheld radio? Or is it handheld
only?  
 
 
 
From: CnC-List [ mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
 ] On Behalf Of Bill Bina via CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 5:59 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Handheld VHF with DSC
 
The HX851 has GPS and it floats. 

 
 <
http://www.standardhorizon.com/indexVS.cfm?cmd=DisplayProducts
 &ProdCatID=85&ProdID=1558&DivisionID=3
 >

Bill Bina

On 2/21/2015 5:57 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:

Personally, I'd pop extra $$ for the new HX870.  It floats and has built in
GPS.  If I'm in the water, I'd want the thing broadcasting my location.

Dennis C.

 

On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List
 wrote:

All, 

 

Found out that the local racing authority, CBYRA, will require a handheld
VHF with DSC this season.

 

Looking at a Standard Horizon HX851 Handheld VHF Radio with GPS from
theGPSStore for $125.00

 

Any reason I should not buy this unit?

 

35/3

The Office

Annapolis

Joel 

301 541 8551   

 
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Re: Stus-List Handheld VHF with DSC

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Help me understand the original requirement;  Is it to have DSC on the
vessel and it can be either a fixed or handheld radio? Or is it handheld
only?  

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill Bina
via CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 5:59 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Handheld VHF with DSC

 

The HX851 has GPS and it floats. 

 



Bill Bina

On 2/21/2015 5:57 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:

Personally, I'd pop extra $$ for the new HX870.  It floats and has built in
GPS.  If I'm in the water, I'd want the thing broadcasting my location.

Dennis C.

 

On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List
 wrote:

All, 

 

Found out that the local racing authority, CBYRA, will require a handheld
VHF with DSC this season.

 

Looking at a Standard Horizon HX851 Handheld VHF Radio with GPS from
theGPSStore for $125.00

 

Any reason I should not buy this unit?

 

35/3

The Office

Annapolis

Joel 
301 541 8551   

 

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Re: Stus-List Latest Chartplotters.

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Per Garmin Tech Support and to  clarify Bill’s comment below.  Garmin’s units 
with Wifi built in do not require the $200 adaptor kit. 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson 
via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 11:13 AM
To: Bill Coleman; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Latest Chartplotters.

 

Bill,

 

Wifi is built into the Ray for the Ray phone/tablet apps.  Not for a laptop.

I agree the old Ray stuff was not user-friendly, but the current stuff really 
is!

Let us know what you select.

 

Joel

35/3

Annapolis

 

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Lots of great info, thanks to all for their input.

In reading the manuals many things become more clear.

Garmin is a little more forthright in acknowledging that you need to pony up 
another 200 for a wifi module, and 300 for radio, 

Had to dig a little deeper in the Zeus to find that out. I am puzzled why they 
don’t build wifi in, it is in my dashcam and that is tiny and cheap.

It looks to me that it IS built into the e7 Raymarine, can anyone clarify that?

On the pictures of the back of the Zeus 8 it has Simrad molded into the case, 
so I guess that is what it really is.

The reason I had not considered the Raymarine is that after going from a 
Garmin, which I consider very intuitive, the Ray was confounding, and poorly 
thought out, at least the RL-80.

They seem to be making much nicer stuff now, especially since Jeppeson  
acquired them.

JF, do you know if my Raymarine Autopilot will work seamlessly with the Zeus?  
It is 0183, the MKII around 10 years old.

And thanks to Fred for the Garmin offer.

 

 

Bill Coleman

C&C 39

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of 
Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 8:01 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Latest Chartplotters.

 

My response to Chuck got scrubbed again.. I need to stop trying to send from 
the phone... 

Here goes:  

The laylines are not necessarily set at any particular angle.. That's the 
genius of it. It analyzes how you are pointing / running relative to apparent 
wind speed, current, tides, direction, wind shifts, and boat speed then does 
the trigonometry for the layline angle that gives the optimal tack / jibe point 
to max-out your vmg to waypoint.

During that race I followed it precisely, gained 2 tacks over 5 miles.. 

Sent from IBM Notes Traveler

Chuck S --- Re: Stus-List Latest Charplotters --- 


From:

"Chuck S" 


To:

"Jean-Francois J Rivard" , "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" 



Date:

Sat, Jan 31, 2015 2:01 PM


Subject:

Re: Stus-List Latest Charplotters

 

  _  


That zeus sounds interesting.Would be nice to have the laylines.  Are they 
set at 45 dgrees?  Can you set them lower?

Chuck
Regards


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François Rivard

 4111 Northside Pkwy, Nw




Big Data Black Belt

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Mobile:

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301 541 8551

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Re: Stus-List Latest Chartplotters

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Bill - 
I'm thinking about going down that same path and interested in what you
learn about B&G and Garmin chartplotters.  Both have wireless capability
with ipad control, which is very attractive.  It'd be ideal to play with
each for a while.  My only experience with B&G is adding a Triton Display on
my Garmin network (replaced 1 of 3 Garmin GMIs).   Seamless integration,
very good functionality and easy to use once you learn the quirks.  

I also have a Raymarine autopilot w/display on the network.  Marginal at
best.  

Good luck and stay in touch on this.


-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Coleman via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 10:19 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Latest Chartplotters

I was wondering if anyone on the list has, or has had occasion to use one of
the new Chartplotters by B&G or Garmin with the Laylines, compass rose, etc,
that look like the overlays on the latest Americas cup.  Particularly the
Zeus Touch T8, now on sale for $807 I still have an RC-80 Raymarine which
works fine, but all these new features, plus many, many more make my knees
go weak.

Any Comments?

Another observation, I notice that Defender has nothing from Garmin anymore.
I wonder if they pulled their plug for not playing by the rules and selling
below their "suggested" prices. ?

Bill Coleman
C&C 39



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Stus-List handicap for after market sprits

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

LMPHRF, our local handicap governing body, is making adjustments to the
credit and penalties of handicaps for displacement hull boats that fly
asyms, with and without the addition of sprits.  

I'm interested in what other regions are using for regs, amount of
participation, and observations of performance changes.

Thanks for your help.

Pete



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Re: Stus-List C&C 30 one design

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Congrats Jack!  Keep up the good work.

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jack 
Fitzgerald via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 1:33 PM
To: Tom Buscaglia; C&CList
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 30 one design

 

C&C 30 OD

 

I just shipped 3 of these boats (hull nos: 05, 06 & 08) to USWatercraft's 
Japanese dealer. All 3 boats were pre sold. The dealer has 3 more hulls on 
order for delivery by the end of May 2015.

 

There is also a lot of interest from Australia we well.

 

Jack Fitzgerald

HONEY

US12788

C&C 39 TM




 

 

On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Looking forward to finally seeing one at the Seattle Boat Show next week.  
Hoping they'll have the a Redline 41 though I doubt it.

Oh yeah...go Hawks!

Tom Buscaglia
S/V Alera
1990 C&C 37+/40
Vashon WA
P 206.463.9200


> On Jan 18, 2015, at 9:00 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2015 20:15:30 -0500
> From: Jerome Tauber 
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
> Subject: Stus-List C&C30 one design at Key West
>
> There will be a C&C 30 one design competing in Key West Race Week starting 
> tomorrow.  Jerry c&C 27 v J&J
> Sent from my iPhone

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Stus-List Garmin 740 for sale

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

I'm considering upgrading my GPS.  Anyone interested in a Garmin 740?  I
have the GXM  SiriusXM receiver to go with it.  

 

Great unit.  I'm going for the newer model with more features.

 

Contact me directly.

 

Pete

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Stus-List webasto heater exhaust fitting

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

After freezing my tail off last season on some overnight races, I finally
broke down and am in the process of installing a heater on the boat.

 

With the reverse angle on the transom, I understand there can be issues
installing the straight through transom fitting that came with the kit.   I
found the following angled fitting available in the UK.  Anyone know of a
dealer/mnfctr in the US?

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/24MM-S-S-EXHAUST-SKIN-FITTING-FOR-EBERSPACHER-WEBA
STO-DIESEL-HEATER-/111490826093 

 

Pete

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Re: Stus-List New CnC Owner Introduction...

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

David - 

I also have a 37 and happy to help out if you have any questions.

 

Pete

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David via
CnC-List
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 1:38 PM
To: David McDonough; CNC CNC
Subject: Stus-List New CnC Owner Introduction...

 

CnC Group meet David McDonough...David meet the best damned owners group out
there...



David F. Risch
1981 40-2
(401) 419-4650 (cell)



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From: dmcdono...@jhu.edu
To: davidrisc...@msn.com
Subject: RE: CnC Rendezvous Site
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 17:10:03 +

David,

 

Thank you.

 

I look forward to the info for next year's summer rendezvous. 

 

David 

 

David McDonough

Cell (410) 491-3746

dmcdono...@jhu.edu 

Trinity

1984 C&C 37

 

From: David [mailto:davidrisc...@msn.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 11:50 AM
To: David McDonough
Subject: CnC Rendezvous Site

 

David,

That site is being replaced.   We have a great e-mail group of which I can
send you the e-mail link.

You can then introduce yourself and ask any type of questions or help
others.

Welcome!!

David F. Risch
1981 40-2
(401) 419-4650 (cell)

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Re: Stus-List Custom C&C Race boats (was - boat terms)

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Ed - 
True North is in Thunder Bay, Ont.  I saw her in August when in the area for a 
race.  There’s also another custom 37 there called Pennycress.Pennycress 
annually comes down to Bayfield Race Week, but I haven’t seen either in the 
Trans for a while.

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edward 
Levert via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 7:24 PM
To: Rick Taillieu; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Custom C&C Race boats (was - boat terms)

 

In the mid 1970's TRUE NORTH came south to Lake Pontchartrain. She was a custom 
C&C 37 designed and built to defend the Canada's Cup. Flush deck with "ant 
hills," sockets moulded into the deck to accept winch handles. The ant hills 
were cross linked so that the leeward winch could be ground from the windward 
side. She was brought to the lake by Gene Walet, a former Olympic sailor and 
then the local C&C dealer to provide competition to Corrie, C&C 39 hull # 2 or 
3 and Touché. Gene added rather crude extensions to the aft curvature of the 
hull extending past the reverse transom for some undiscernabe rating or 
performance benefit. A recent Google search pulled up a report of TN having 
done well in the Trans Superior race a few years ago. It would be nice to hear 
about her current status. Gene replaced TN with White Pony, one of the early 
C&C 38's, which was never competitive with the C&C 39.

 

Ed

C&C 34 Briar Patch

New Orleans 


On Monday, November 10, 2014, Rick Taillieu via CnC-List 
 wrote:

While we’re on the subject of custom C&C race boats does anyone know anything 
about this one?

It looks like a 38 MK I or II hull with a mostly flush deck and racing cabin 
layout.

At first I thought it might be the One Tonner but the deck layout in the 
pictures is quite different than in the magazine ad that I have a scan of.

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1975/C%26C-38-2744779/Canada#.VGEhiclMpD4

 

 

Rick Taillieu

Nemesis

'75 C&C 25  #371

Shearwater Yacht Club

Halifax, NS.

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com 
 ] On Behalf Of 
Burt Stratton via CnC-List
Sent: November-10-14 15:12
To: 'Martin DeYoung'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 ; 'jtsails'
Subject: Re: Stus-List boat terms

 

Somehow I knew this was an easy one for all you listers. Thanks so much. My 
next stop is IOR ton rating. Had no clue…

 

I wonder now how many and for how long C&C made these custom class-racers.  

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com 
 ] On Behalf Of 
Martin DeYoung via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 1:55 PM
To: jtsails; cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 
Subject: Re: Stus-List boat terms

 

Burt,

 

James’ answer leading you to search using “IOR ton rating is good advice.  In 
short, the term “ton” was based on an IOR rating band that allowed IOR boats to 
race “one design”.  IIRC the popular “ton” classes were: ¼. ½, ¾, 1, and 2. 
Sailing Anarchy has had several recent topics that cover IOR and “Ton” racing 
well.

 

Calypso would have rated as a 2 tonner. A J-24 sized boat would be close to a ¼ 
tonner.  Today there is a resurgence of ton class racing with ¼ and ½ ton 
regattas being well attended.  Boats that had been neglected for years are 
being resurrected, modernized and raced hard.

 

Back in the heyday of IOR racing I had the opportunities to race extensively on 
¾, 1, and 2 ton class boats.  The racing was tight and fun.  We used bloopers.  
In the PNW town of Bellingham a regatta called PITCH (Pacific International Ton 
Championship) was started in the early 80’s.  The racing was as intense as the 
partying. Protest meeting often went past dinner time.

 

Martin

Calypso

1971 C&C 43

Seattle

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Re: Stus-List thread reply and rod rigging

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Dave - 

In addition to the comments on rod rigging, and as a point of reference for
you on costs, I had an old Stearns headstay/furler and replaced it this fall
with a Harken.  This required that I add a new forestay.  For multiple
reasons I went with rod vs wire.  Total cost for just the forestay, which
included toggles for new furler, was about $1300.   If you make this
purchase and are looking for budget numbers, re-heading everything for
around $2k is good value with appropriate safety/reliability that others
have mentioned.

 

Hope that helps.

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David
Dawes via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 7:20 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List thread reply and rod rigging

 

Hi, can someone tell me how to reply to a thread?  Sorry, I can't figure it
out.  So I started a new one.

 

 

Next I looked at a 1984 CNC 35 M3 yesterday.  Concerned about the rod
rigging.  This boat is run down so I don't expect a record of rigging
inspection or service.

 

A rigger friend recommended full replacement.

 

Is this correct?  And what are alternatives?  What is a rod replacement cost
approx?  And is a wire replacement smart/ advisable/ cost effective or too
heavy?  Technology has moved ahead in 30 years.

 

I love the boat layout etc.  But suspect rigging will kill my offshore
pleasure!

 

Many thanks,

 

David.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

David Dawes

Captain

Newport, RI, USA

+1(401)5854942

dawes...@hotmail.com

 

 

 

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Re: Stus-List Volvo ocean race game?

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Graham - 
Not this time, but I downloaded the race app on my Ipad (Volvo Ocean Race
2014).   With the tracking and video footage, this is going to be crazy
cool. 


 

-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Graham
Collins via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 8:34 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Volvo ocean race game?

Anyone doing the volvo ocean race game?  (Virtual regatta at 
http://www.virtualregatta.com/)

-- 
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Re: Stus-List Backstay aduster

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Ditto on the sailtec.  Good Wisconsin company.

 

7 yrs and no issues for me.   Of course I take it off every fall and store
inside for the winter.

 

Good idea of Harken pumping both ways.if you're into that.

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Coleman via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 4:28 PM
To: 'Bruno Lachance'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Backstay aduster

 

My 39 had a Sailtec installed by the PO.

No problems from when he bought it in early 90's till now. I like it.

http://www.sailtec.com/products/hydraulic-integral-adjusters.html

 

I think the Harken is nice too, supposedly it pumps both ways.

Not that there is anything wrong with that.

 

Regards,

 

Bill 

 

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Lachance via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 5:15 PM
To: Joel Aronson; Kevin Driscoll; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Backstay aduster

 

The 33 is not split backstay, maybe some late models have them but not mine.

 
I can not beleive there is not a better reliable system on the market.
anybody with direct experience of the Wichard mechanical wiht ratchet ? i
don't even know if the handle pumps up and down or rotates with some sort of
relief system hence the ratchet ??? same question about power, but the
numbers indicate it would be more than appropriate for my boat.
 
I'm worried to dump more money into hydrolic and be a the same point in a
year or two. Worse case scenario i lost the rig, i had to jury something
this summer offshore in 25 knots plus when the thing blew on my transom. not
fun at all. i bought a spare turnbucle after that one and went on with my
vacations.
 
thanks for inputs
 
Bruno Lachance
C&C 33 mkII
Becassine
 

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Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 16:45:20 -0400
To: kevindrisc...@gmail.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Backstay aduster
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

My 2 cents:

I don't think the 33 is a split backstay.  The cost to split it and install
new chain plates would probably exceed the cost of a hydraulic unit. 

With a masthead rig I would want more power than you can get with a manual
adjuster.

 

 

Joel

35/3

Annapolis

 

On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List
 wrote:

I second the split back with tackle/cam cleat apparatus suggestion. I race a
bit with it and Find it straight forward and quick adjusting. Pretty direct
feedback on rig tension.

KD



On October 8, 2014, at 1:13PM, John Pennie via CnC-List wrote:

For a 33 you may want to consider one of the fittings that ride on a split
backstay from Johnson.  Not nearly as eloquent but effective and probably
the best value. 

 

John

 

On Oct 8, 2014, at 4:06 PM, Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List
 wrote:

 

If you race your boat you will find the mechanical back stay adjuster to be
a complete PITA. 

 

I have a stainless steel Barient back stay adjuster (5/8" pins and uses a
winch handle to adjust) that came with my boat back in 1975 to be used in
case the original Meriman hydraulic adjusters failed. It did indeed fail and
we rigged the Barient and it took all that one could do to crank in enough
tension just to straighten the mast 

 

Jack Fitzgerald

HONEY
C&C 39 TM




 

 

 

On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Bruno Lachance via CnC-List
 wrote:

Hi all,
 
I sent my navtec backstay for a rebuild at Southshore and it seems the over
25 years thing is dammaged (scratch on pump cylinder, not fixable, it still
leaks). I'm looking at options and the two on the list are: replace it by
the exact same thing (Navtec) or screw hydrolic and go with the mechanical
option. Would be a Wichard product, the one with a ratchet or handle with no
ratchet, not the wheel.
 
any opinions on that decision would be appreciated regarding reliability and
performance (i like to play with that toy!) would a mechanical be too slow
to adjust?
 
Thanks
 
Bruno Lachance
C&C 33 mkII
Becassine
 
 

 


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Re: Stus-List Online Captains License or class room?

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

I always understood the on-the-water hours qualification was the more limiting 
restriction.  Is that not in place anymore?  

 

I know a lot of licensed captains out there aren’t worth a damn.  IE:  It takes 
more than just passing a test.

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Tim Goodyear 
via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 11:48 AM
To: Josh Muckley; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Online Captains License or class room?

 

I second Josh's comments about Mariners Learning System - but I had the hard 
copy books (as well as online / DVD's) and found myself using them on long 
flights, making notes etc.  I passed the test easily after taking the course - 
I added a couple of apps to my phone for light / signal flash cards that came 
in handy.  I would recommend Mariners Learning System - if you are OK learning 
from materials / on your own.  Just to note, this was not my first experience 
with certification, having done the RYA tests when I lived in England.

 

Getting the correct medical and drug testing done is not as simple as it sounds.

 

Tim

 

On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Online at mariners learning system was fine for me and my wife.  I didn't like 
the materials because it was a video that simply read through the course book.  
The tests were simple quizes and module tests were rote memorization of the 
written and video material.  We made flash cards of all of the quiz and test 
questions and passed the final test pretty easily.  Crammed the night before.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Oct 3, 2014 10:59 AM, "Curtis via CnC-List"  wrote:

Need some advise

 

 

 

I have always wanted to get my ticket. When i retire I want to be able to move 
some boats for a living maybe for a local marina and the like. I want to get 
the ball rolling. But I find that there are from around $500 bucks on line to 
as much as 1500 in class type schools. I was hoping for some incite on the 
better way to take and pass the test. I want to learn and I want to pass. I 
want to better hone my skill to become a better skipper. I have a 65 mile ride 
to Charleston or a 30 mile ride to Savannah to find a school. Are the On-Line 
courses sufficient enough to make the test passable? I would thing a instructor 
would be needed to prepare for a test like that? they claim a 98% pass rate.

Lets here your 2 ¢

Best regards,

Curtis McDaniel, 

C&C 30-MK1 East Coast Lady

Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you 
didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away 
from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. 
Discover.  -Mark Twain

  cpt.b...@gmail.com

 

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Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Dave - 

I'll chime in.I did that job about 3 years ago and am glad I did.Note
that it's no silver bullet.   Martin's comment that "no one asks if the
diesel is running" is still accurate, but it's a lot better.   As I get
older the engine doesn't sound as bad as it used to, so I have that going
for me J  

 

It's really not that hard of a project and there's a lot less "dirt" in the
area in addition to the reduction in noise pollution.  

 

I figure it's like refrigeration.   You can live without it, but it's nice
to have.

 

Hope that helps.


Pete

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David via
CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 4:22 PM
To: CNC CNC
Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation

 

Well I heard from one about the not-so-great results from installing engine
sound insulation...anybody  else want to chime in with an opinion about
whether it is worth it?

David F. Risch
1981-402
(401) 419-4650 (cell)



> To: pauljba...@shaw.ca; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 18:03:44 -0300
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without an engine? Now
docking
> From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> 
> You got it...i know that one because I had a 27 MKIII in the same sort of
> dock arrangement
> 
> Dwight Veinot
> C&C 35MKII, Alianna
> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Paul
> Baker via CnC-List
> Sent: August 28, 2014 3:34 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without an engine? Now
> docking
> 
> Which is all well and good if your dock has a piling or some other way of
> getting a midships springline onto it. My dock is a low, short finger,
when
> the boat is in the slip the stern is just about to the end of the finger
so
> no way to drop a springline over a dock cleat as I come in singlehanded.
> I just have to wing it, drive in with enough way on to allow steerage,
quick
> blast of reverse to tuck the stern in and stop any forward motion(dock is
to
> port with reverse giving me a port walk), step off and throw the docklines
> over my cleats like a hero. Usually. Gets more interesting with the
> current and/or wind blowing you away from the dock of course, haven't got
> that one nailed quite yet (first year with an inboard) but fortunately
don't
> have a boat in the adjoining slip so there is always a plan B, however
> untidy it looks.
> Cheers,
> Paul
> 
> Orange Crush
> C&C27MkII
> Sidney, BC.
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Joe via CnC-List Della Barba" 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 10:57:15 AM
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without an engine?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Key to difficult docking situations is a midships spring line. If you drop
a
> short spring on a piling you can run against it and snug up to the dock
> under power either way and under sail going downwind. 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> Joe Della Barba 
> 
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Stus-List block lubricant

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

We just finished a week long distance race series and during the race I
noticed that the blocks that we lube with T-9 become pretty gunked up.  We
cleaned with a solvent, rinsed with soapy water and fresh water, then
re-applied.   Same result after a day or two.  Anyone have similar
experience?   Does anyone have another product suggestion?  Anyone use
Mclube One Drop?

Thanks,
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Stus-List tight reaching

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

I recently had a mid-distance race in which a majority of the race was tight
reaching in flat water, 10-15 breeze.   We had our heavy #1 up.  A number of
boats (C&C39, C&C38, Sabre 36, Tarten Ten) worked up on us pretty well in
those conditions.   I obviously need to trim the sails differently and am
looking for suggestions.

 

We mostly eased the sheet and moved the car forward, but we did try barber
hauling.  We did not try bringing the clew right out to the toe rail.  

 

Any thoughts or suggestions is appreciated.

 

Thanks,

 

Pete

1984 C&C 37

 

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Re: Stus-List Jib sheet bowlines hang up on baby stay

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Pete - 

You haven't had issues with the lazy sheet coming loose?

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of kelly
petew via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 9:46 AM
To: cnc-list
Subject: Re: Stus-List Jib sheet bowlines hang up on baby stay

 

I've had the same problem.  I started using a "cow hitch" vs. two bowlines
and it's less likely to get jammed.
My headsail is a 140.
 
Hope this helps.
 
Pete W.
 
Siren Song
'91 C&C30-2
Deltaville, VA
 

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> 4. Re: Boatyard repair issues (Chuck S)
> 5. Re: C&C 32 Genoa sheets (Frank)
> 6. Re: C&C 32 Genoa sheets (John Russo)
> 7. Re: C&C 32 Genoa sheets (Dennis C.)
> 8. Re: What happened 15th 16th June (Chris Price)
> 9. Jib sheet bowlines hang up on baby stay (Kevin Driscoll)
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> Thanks for the replies guys. I guess I'm not crazy then! If the owners
> themselves don't know the difference I don't feel so bad. Also, it means
> the older boats are worth considering. I'm also reading mixed reports of
> cored vs non-cored hulls. Anyone care to comment on that one?? Mostly I
> read that they are cored all the way down.
> 
> Thanks,
> Steve
> Suhana, C&C 32
> Toronto
> 
> 
> 

> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 17:21:47 -0700
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> I find that my jib sheet bowlines get hung up on my stay quite a bit,
> especially with my 130 on. Any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks,
> Kevin
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Re: Stus-List C&C 38mkIII

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Hey Fred - glad you're getting in the water -  Just in time of Race Week.
FYI we have a new Jib and Main class this year with a great turn out
already.   You'd do really well.

 

Sign up here:  http://wyc.org/ais/RaceWeek.aspx 

 

 

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G Street via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 11:39 AM
To: Jerome Tauber; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 38mkIII

 

How about considering a Landfall 38?  Pretty much the same hull, but only
draws 4'-11" on a longer keel.  Mine points like a witch, too.   :^)


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

 

FINALLY getting launched tomorrow.   :^)

 

 

On Jun 19, 2014, at 10:51 AM, Jerome Tauber via CnC-List
 wrote:





I've owned a C&C 24 and 29mkII and now own a 27mkV.  A friend and I are
considering partnering on a 38mkIII.  The 7.5 foot draft may be good in the
Mariana Trench but not in my harbor. (3 mile Harbor ).   Has anyone had any
experience with the shoal keel version which I think gives the boat a. 6'4"
draft ( still problematic).  How does it point.  How many points does it
gain in PHRF.   Any other comments appreciated.  Jerry

 

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Re: Stus-List diesel fuel line with banjo fitting

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Nate – check with the guys at Barker’s.  They stock some stuff, or may have 
better connections on ordering.  No guarantee on best pricing though.  
http://barkers-island-marina.com/ 

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Nate 
Flesness via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 12:12 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List diesel fuel line with banjo fitting

 

I need a new short 2QM15 diesel fuel line (part 17 on their diagram attached) 
with a banjo fitting on one end (apparently ripped the hose while pulling the 
engine last year). These have a press-fit brass female connection. My regional 
Yanmar supplier (Toad, formerly Torresen) has these backordered...

 

Anyone have ideas or experience?

 

Thanks

 

Nate

Sarah Jean"

1980 30-1

Siskiwit Bay Marina

Lake Superior

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Stus-List babystay tie rods

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

On my 37, the babystay has two tie rods going from the deck to the hull.   On 
this boat these run straight down on either side of the door to the head.

 

There are turnbuckles at the base of the rod by the hull to adjust the tension. 
 In my case, one is significantly looser than the other.   

 

Does anyone on the list have experience adjusting these?  Or how to monitor if 
they are too tight or too loose?

 

Thanks,

 

 

 

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Re: Stus-List Repositioning Mast

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Steve - I haven’t done this on a boat as big as yours, but in the past we have 
taken a line from the butt of the mast forward to a snatch block and then back 
to a winch and grind it forward.  Not really as hard as it sounds.   Obviously 
get the rig loose first, etc.Hope that helps.

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan 
Plavsa via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 2:18 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Repositioning Mast

 

Hi All,

 

I made a stupid newbie mistake when we stepped the mast. In my defence it was a 
busy, windy, choppy day and we had to hire a crane to come to the club to step 
everyone's mast .. and I helped everyone, so when it came time to do my boat I 
was kind of on autopilot. We stepped 29 masts that day.

 

So I failed to remember that there are wedges fore and aft at the mast base 
that keep the mast centered in the step. My girlfriend says to me the other day 
while pointing at a pair of wedges in the boat .. did you forget to put the 
wedges in the partner? Um, no I did not. Then I realized my mistake and took a 
look at the mast base ... the mast is seated all the way aft. I guess this 
would cause some forward rake? I'm all ears in regards to how this might affect 
the rig, sail shape, etc? 

 

In any case, I'de like to center the thing and put the wedges where they are 
supposed to go. I know I can loosen the tension on the rig and I've used 
halyards in place of the forestay and shrouds on previous occasions to fix this 
or that but even with the rig tension way down is the weight of the mast itself 
going to prevent me from sliding it forward about 1.5 inches? What would be the 
correct order to loosen the rig? Backstay, lowers, uppers? I'de rather not futz 
with the forestay if I can help it but I did just disconnect it about a week 
ago to fix a kink in the furler so I'm not shy to do it again.

 

Any help/recommendations are much appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Steve

Suhana, C&C 32

Toronto

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Stus-List 2012 Annapolis Bermuda Race C&C 37

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

I scanned through the photos of 2012 Annapolis-Bermuda race and found a 37 
named “Impromptu” out of Galesville, MD.   Anyone know it?

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson 
via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:46 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Annapolis Bermuda Race

 

All,

 

One week to the gun!  I want to thank all of you in advance for your support, 
advice, patience, equipment and even sails that have made it possible for me to 
enter the race.  

 

There will be fellow C&C ers on the boat both ways!

 

Our class includes Steve Sharkey's C&C 37 as well as a mini transat 21 footer 
and a 100 foot schooner. Should make the starting line interesting.  You can 
track us at www.bermudaoceanrace.com.  They are using Spots, not Yellowbrick.  

 

Finally, as a follow up to an earlier post, I ran out of time to make a fancy 
enclosure for the frig compressor.  Some corrugated plastic board from Home 
Depot and duct tape will suffice for now.  If nothing else, it will serve as a 
template for a more permanent solution.


 

-- 
Joel 

The Office

Annapolis
301 541 8551 

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Stus-List PHRF ratings

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

I’m going to insert a comment here on keeping perspective with PHRF ratings.  I 
recently had a conversation with an individual affiliated with our local 
ratings and he commented that 3 secs equates to approximately 1 boat length for 
every mile raced.  So as nice as it is to get 3 or 6 secs, IMHO it’s really not 
a big deal.  I can blow a tack and lose a boat length, multiply that by how 
many tacks are made in a mile and, well, it points out I should spend time on 
boat handling and less worrying about ratings.  

 

Obviously know the rules and use what’s made available to you, but keep in mind 
where real gains are made.

 

Hope that helps.

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. 
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 4:48 PM
To: Gary Nylander; CnClist
Subject: Re: Stus-List Technical sail discussion

 

Gary,

You are right about the above deck furler.  I'm in the Gulf Yachting 
Association (gya.org) Here's the rule:

"The PHRF committee may allow +6 seconds per mile in rating for a roller 
furling headsail and +12 seconds for an optional IN-MAST roller furling 
mainsail. Boats must have a SA/DSPL less than 20.01 and an inboard or saildrive 
(non-retractable) engine to be eligible for credit(s). The attached form must 
be submitted to receive this credit.

1. Uses a working roller furling headsail attached to an above deck mounted 
roller furling system. Roller furling headsails must be tacked above the drum 
and may be interchangeable with other working roller furling headsails while 
racing. Possible +6 seconds!

2. Uses an optional working Roller Furling in-mast mainsail, which may have no 
more than 5 vertical battens and that the roach of the sail does not extend 
past the backstay (or a line from the top of the mast to the deck edge of the 
transom if a back stay is not standard on the boat) and is furled vertically by 
rolling rather than flaking. Possible +12 seconds!

3. For the Roller Furling Headsail credit the boat must have a sail 
area/displacement of less than 20.01. This value (SA/DSPL) is based on the 
following formula: SA/DSPL = SA / (DSPL/64)^2/3.

Sail area and displacement values will be based on the standard dimensions 
published for the boat class by US Sailing (http://offshore.ussailing.org/phrf) 
“Critical dimensions” using 100% of the foretriangle and 100% mainsail and 
mizzen sail area.

4. Each boat has to apply for this credit individually, and the committee 
reserves the right to refuse the credit(s) to boats that they deem to be more 
racing than cruising. (Refer to GYA-PHRF.com for a copy of the form)

5. Will notify the PHRF Committee of any changes made to the above items."

Touche's SA/DSPL is 20.0

 

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

 

On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List 
 wrote:

I don't know about your PHRF area, but Chesapeake requires that the furler drum 
is above deck AND you have the UV patch (heavy cloth) on both the foot and 
leach of the sail. Then you get the six seconds.

Gary
- Original Message - From: "Martin DeYoung via CnC-List" 

To: "Dennis C." ; 
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 1:32 PM


Subject: Re: Stus-List Technical sail discussion



Calypso's headsails were also cut for a furler with the higher foot, now about 
18" off the deck.

We still get a significant "speed bubble" in the main at the mid to upper wind 
range for the light and heavy #1s.  The bubble shows up 6' to 25' (off the 
deck) on the mainsail.

>From my miss-spent youth crewing with serious race programs I expect there to 
>be an advantage to the deck sweeper type headsails, more so for the early IOR 
>type sail plans with big fore triangles and smaller mainsails. The engineers 
>may reference something about an end plate effect.

Over the last 10 years of club racing Calypso with roller furling headsails we 
see a significant decrease in performance at the low end of the wind range, 
especially in acceleration.  Side by side with another C&C 43 that had newer, 
non-furling headsails Calypso was left in the dust as the wind built from calm 
to 5 knots.  Once the TWS was above 7 knots the speed difference was much less 
but the newer sails still pointed higher.

After reading about your +6 per mile for the roller furler I need to take a 
close look at the PHRF-NW book and re-file Calypso's data.  We are still using 
the old IMS/IOR type measurements.

Martin
Calypso
1971 C&C 43
Seattle

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. 
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 5:51 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Technical sail discussion

I recently re-filed my PHRF certificate to get +6 seconds for a roller furler.  
Subsequently, I just had the luff my Mylar/Kevlar 155 cut down to fit on the 
furler.  My sail maker cut a bunch off the foot.

I was chatting about losing the sail area with one of the really good sai

Re: Stus-List C$C 32

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Bob -

Check with your local phrf organization or sail maker.  This is the formula I 
was given for spin sail area in sqft.  See if it makes sense for you.

 


PHRF Rule

((SLU+SLE) x (4*SMG + SF))/12

 

Slu = spin luff

Sle = spin leach

Smg = spin mid-girth

Sf = spin foot

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Michael Clow 
via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 4:44 AM
To: sam.c.sal...@gmail.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List C$C 32

 

My symmetrical chute was made specifically for racing by Al Declercq in Metro 
Detroit so it would be the maximum legal size.  My sail certificate is online 
below with the dimensions.  Perhaps someone else knows the formula to calculate 
square footage?

 

http://desiresailing.org/Misc/SailCertificateSymChute1998CnC32.pdf

 

There is no C&C 32-II.  The  C&C 32 (made 1979 to 1984) is actually 31.5 LOA.  
The C&C99 is 32.5 feet and came out around 2000.  The only similarity is that 
they are within .5 feet of 32 feet.

 

Michael Clow

Desire  , C&C 32, Lake St. Clair

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 11:46 PM
To: teq...@comcast.net; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List C$C 32

 

FX Sails thinks the 32 is 754 sq ft / 32 mk ll is 821 sq ft.

(That’s for symmetrical)

 

sam :-)

 

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Sent: ‎Wednesday‎, ‎April‎ ‎30‎, ‎2014 ‎7‎:‎09‎ ‎PM
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Can Any one tell me the sail area of a Spinnaker for a C&C 32, or the fomula to 
get the area? Thanks Bob

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