Re: detect host type?

[Evgeny]

On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Evgeny Karyakin
 wrote:
> Maybe http://nmap.org/book/man-os-detection.html ?

For nmap to work, there hane to be some network services on other side.
I don't think some *random PC* will have one.
May be some device info as shown in syslog/dmesg on Frerunner will help?
I don't own Frerunner, so can't check it myself.

> 2008/12/20 Joel Newkirk :
>> OK, an FR has just been plugged into the USB port on a random host PC.
>>
>> Is there any way for the FR to consistently identify if it is a windows,
>> mac, or linux host?

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Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

[Michele Renda]

Thank you for your very clear explanation.

Michele Renda

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MAME?

[Damian Spriggs]

Has anyone ported/started working on a port of MAME for the  
freerunner? A quick search didn't turn up anything. I know there's a  
port for the iPaq, so I don't think a freerunner version should be  
too tough. I just don't want to duplicate anyones efforts.


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Re: [OM 2008.12] Enlightenment Drop Shadow Performance

[W.Kenworthy]

On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 10:04 +1100, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:13:59 +0100 "Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster"
>  babbled:
> 
> > Dylan Reilly schrieb:
> > > FWIW, I have been able to reduce the CPU usage of Enlightenment on my
> > > OM testing build device by disabling drop shadows. After recent
> > > updates from testing (which should be more or less the 2008.12 image)
> > > Enlightenment was constantly grabbing 20% CPU and who knows how much
> > > IO. After I obliterated the drop shadow module,
> > > (/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/dropshadow) only 1-2% CPU is being
> > > used.
> > >
> > > Moreover, I remembered some recent post(s) tentatively linking the
> > > Software-16 crashes (when using the illume theme) to drop shadows. On
> > > a whim I re-enabled that engine and am not seeing any problems. So,
> > > now I get a snappier UI to boot.
> > >
> > >   
> > WOOHOO!!! you made my day
> 
> dropshadow shouldnt cause 20% cpu - unless some totally bizarre stuff has been
> done to the theme:
> 
> 
Running the illume theme: Not sure about the cpu - but removing
drop-shadow does stop the segfaults when running software_16 engine.
Also the Settings app now runs, and for a short while at least I had a
gsm signal level (maybe too low where I am at the moment).

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Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

[The Rasterman]

On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 03:19:30 +0100 "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" 
babbled:

> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> > seriously dropping camera isn't going to free up money for 3g. 3g is going
> > to cost many many many TIMES what the camera does. you're throwing out the
> > basketballs from the garage to make room for the hummer.
> 
> Mhmhmh... I'm not in that world at all. Please could you explain why a
> 3G chip would cost so much?

because the only chips available in low volume (like 5k, 10k, 20k) cost a LOT.
if you want high volume you cant buy a low-cost module, you need to develop it
yourself from the original schematics - and then pay a license fee. there is an
initial cost just to "get started" before you develop a single unit - this is
in the millions range. (depending who you go to). then you pay PER chip in the
range of $10-$50 LICENSE fees - you STILL have to manufacture the module
yourself too. so not including your own manufacturing setup costs.

now let's talk the volumes of freerunner. it's in the 10k's range (10, 20, 30
at most). lets assume 20k over 12 months (low but need to be conservative).
let's assume the LOW end of $1mil license. lets assume we have $20/unit
license. lets assume a further $500k module production setup fee. lets assume a
further $10/module production cost (production, testing, qa, all oveheads).

1m / 20k   = $50 / unit
500k / 20k = $25 / unit production setup costs
   + $20 / unit license fee
   + $10 / unit production costs
  --
 $105 / 3g modem

thats for 20,000 units. nokia and apple get to play the "mass production" game.
its not 20k - its 2million units or 5million or 10million or more. so the
equation is more like:
1m / 10m   = $0.1 / unit
500k / 10m = $0.05 /unit
   + $20
   + $10
  --
 $30.15 / unit.

less than 1/3 the cost. as best i know anyone selling pre-made "3g modules" so
you dont have to set up your own production is charging in the range of
$100-$300 per module (depending who you go to and the volume you buy). this is
where someone developed the module (did what nokia/apple etc. do) and now
re-sell their work. 1-offs i have seen for sale for $250 or so for a 3g module.
buy in bulk and you get a discount of course (thus the $100-$300 range). and the
fewer suppliers in between the better.

of course i am talking ballpark figures - these are not exact nor do not
indicate any particular chip or manufacturer. but they are about ballpark
"right". when you are apple and come and want to make 12m iphones - you get a
DAMN good price as you invest the money in doing your own 3g module run (based
on others original designs).

also there are license fees you pay per PRODUCT that uses 3g (a % of the total
cost of the product) - but i am not up on the details of these.

again - these are BALLPARK figures and intended to demonstrate how when you do
low-volume things like the freerunner you are in deep trouble trying to compete
- it's EXTREMELY HARD. i make no representation as to if this matches any chip
or is an amalgam of several and is even 100% accurate - or close. but it is
intended as an illustration of the kinds of costs you have to deal with. you
really need to give openmoko a break - or find a lot more open phone customers
willing to buy millions of open linux phones.

now remember - this is adding to the baseline COST. for every $ spent in cost,
om needs to try make a profit. to cover development costs, support, etc. etc. -
this is the only way you will also see it at a discount later. ie they lower
their profit when the device becomes "obsolete" and to do so u need a profit
margin to start with. so maybe you will take your component/base hw cost and
double it - that's retail. so... add a $100 part - see phone cost go up by $200.

of course if you are in the cut-throat retail channel business where you are
selling millions of devices each year and trying to compete with the $0 "free
phone with your plan" competitor - you shave profit margins a lot, but on
small-volume devices like the freerunner you need high margins to support a
company. as volumes go up - margins can come down - like pretty much everything
as the many of the same overhead costs apply to selling 20k freerunner as do
selling 10m freerunners, so not per unit.

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Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

[Milos Mandaric]

U Pon, 22. 12. 2008., u 03:19 +0100, "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" je
napisao/la:
> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> > seriously dropping camera isn't going to free up money for 3g. 3g is going 
> > to
> > cost many many many TIMES what the camera does. you're throwing out the
> > basketballs from the garage to make room for the hummer.
> 
> Mhmhmh... I'm not in that world at all. Please could you explain why a
> 3G chip would cost so much?
> 
> Thanks...
> 

I think somebody said that license for 3g is very expensive.


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Re: [OM 2008.12] Enlightenment Drop Shadow Performance

[Dylan Reilly]

I definitely believe that it shouldn't be doing that and it was not
always the case. I am certainly willing to accept there is something
screwy with my upgrade path, but I did not do anything intentionally
to the theme or defendant components. (The only thing that comes to
mind that *might* be related is that I renice qpe to -5).

Even if the 20% CPU utilization went away, removing drop shadows so
the Software-16 engine can work seems worthwhile to me.

angstrom-version - 1:-20081222-r1
e-wm - 0.16.999.043+svnr36882-r14.01
illume - 0.0+svnr36882-r14.06
illume-theme-illume - 0.0+svnr36882-r1.01


On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 6:04 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
 wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:13:59 +0100 "Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster"
>  babbled:
>
>> Dylan Reilly schrieb:
>> > FWIW, I have been able to reduce the CPU usage of Enlightenment on my
>> > OM testing build device by disabling drop shadows. After recent
>> > updates from testing (which should be more or less the 2008.12 image)
>> > Enlightenment was constantly grabbing 20% CPU and who knows how much
>> > IO. After I obliterated the drop shadow module,
>> > (/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/dropshadow) only 1-2% CPU is being
>> > used.
>> >
>> > Moreover, I remembered some recent post(s) tentatively linking the
>> > Software-16 crashes (when using the illume theme) to drop shadows. On
>> > a whim I re-enabled that engine and am not seeing any problems. So,
>> > now I get a snappier UI to boot.
>> >
>> >
>> WOOHOO!!! you made my day
>
> dropshadow shouldnt cause 20% cpu - unless some totally bizarre stuff has been
> done to the theme:
>
>
>  PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND
>  1261 root  20   0 23892  15m 6312 S  4.3 12.6  18:58.82 python
>  1336 root  17  -3 22388  14m 6064 S  0.7 11.4  16:39.74 python
>  1338 root  10 -10 22596  11m 7388 S  0.0  9.4   7:43.75 enlightenment
>  1381 root  21   1 11020 2860 2080 S  0.0  2.3   0:01.33 enlightenment_f
>  1317 root  19  -1  9968 2852 1564 S  0.0  2.3   1:05.34 Xglamo
>  1387 root  21   1  4724 1516 1084 S  0.0  1.2   0:01.12 batget
>
> 0% cpu. it will consume a little cpu while charging (2-3%) (redrawing the
> blinking + on the battery). this is out-of-the-box theme with dropshadows on
> etc. (illume+e without shr/fdom/asu changes).
>
> e-wm - 0.16.999.050+svnr37919-r4 -
>
>
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Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

[Marco Trevisan (Treviño)]

Justyn Butler wrote:
> 2008/12/18 Michael Zanetti :
>> As It seems this thread is becoming more and more some sort of a whish-list, 
>> I
>> will put my 2ct here also:
>>
>> - Please don't add a camera: Has ever anyone made a picture with a mobile
>> phone camera that doesn't suck? Get a real camera if you want to make some
>> nice pictures! There is just one way to get a useful camera within a mobile
>> phone: Using very expensive optical lens and zooming technologies. But in 
>> that
>> case, I'd prefer to use the money for a 3G modem which brings me to the next
>> point in my whishlist.
> 
> I think this is a misunderstanding of the concept of having a camera in a 
> phone.
> 
> For many people it is the convenience of *always* having a camera on
> them. Who knows when you need to take a picture?
> 
> It doesn't matter if the picture sucks - they have a "real" camera for
> quality photos. But they don't have it on them all the time.

+1

> I say this as someone who would personally gladly do without the
> camera in place of 3G. But doing this might turn off a whole other
> group of people, because some sort of camera is such an expected thing
> in a phone these days.

+1

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Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

[Marco Trevisan (Treviño)]

Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> seriously dropping camera isn't going to free up money for 3g. 3g is going to
> cost many many many TIMES what the camera does. you're throwing out the
> basketballs from the garage to make room for the hummer.

Mhmhmh... I'm not in that world at all. Please could you explain why a
3G chip would cost so much?

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Re: Illume and E Gadgets...

[The Rasterman]

On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 02:39:01 +0100 "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" 
babbled:

> Raster, I was wondering... Would it be possible to add E gadgets to the
> Illume desktop? I figure it would be cool allowing that.
> They should show as normal icons that could act differently on
> mouse-over (I'm mostly thinking to the CPU, News, Battery, Forecasts and
> Calendar gagets ;P).

yup. see gadman module :) already works. problem is gadman "relies" on a 2
button mouse (ir right mouse for control) - that needs fixing/changing so it
can would with 1 mouse button. :) but in principle it works. it does conflict
with illumes launcher - but.. i intend to split that off into a gadget and use
gadman anyway :) (and improve gadmans' layout so things scale properly or
position irrespective of resolution/aspec/screen setup). it's not perfect atm.

that's why i'm not going into making the launcher better - it needs splitting
out and other stuff first structurally :)

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Illume and E Gadgets...

[Marco Trevisan (Treviño)]

Raster, I was wondering... Would it be possible to add E gadgets to the
Illume desktop? I figure it would be cool allowing that.
They should show as normal icons that could act differently on
mouse-over (I'm mostly thinking to the CPU, News, Battery, Forecasts and
Calendar gagets ;P).

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Re: [debian] enlightenment has no png loader?

[Neil Jerram]

2008/12/22 Joachim Breitner :
>
> I don't know the details, but in any case you might get more inforation
> by either filing a big against e17 (using reportbug), or writing the
> pkg-e team (CC'ed).

Thanks.  For the moment I've moved on to playing with hackable:1, but
I'll do this if/when I come back to plain debian.

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Re: [debian] enlightenment has no png loader?

[Joachim Breitner]

Hi Neil,

Am Donnerstag, den 18.12.2008, 22:44 + schrieb Neil Jerram:
> I noticed that there are now e17 packages in debian unstable, and that
> these include -dbg packages.  Since my current e17 (from the
> enlightenment-all-in-one deb that someone put together) always SEGV's
> on startup, and since Raster has asked for backtrace with symbols when
> that happens, I thought I'd uninstall enlightenment-all-in-one and try
> the new Debian packages instead.
> 
> But now, enlightenment_start bails with:
> 
> ...
> ESTART: 1.49197 [0.75791] - test file format support
>  Enlightenment Error 
> Enlightenment found Evas can't load PNG files. Check Evas has PNG
> loader support.
> 
> (full output attached).
> 
> From googling, it looks like I'm missing a package with name like
> evas-loader-png, which doesn't appear to be available in Debian yet,
> and I guess I just need to wait a bit longer for the packages to get
> to that.
> 
> Is that all correct?  Or is there another problem / solution here?

I don’t know the details, but in any case you might get more inforation
by either filing a big against e17 (using reportbug), or writing the
pkg-e team (CC’ed).

Greetings,
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Re: Re: debian on freerunner

[Joachim Breitner]

Hi,

Am Samstag, den 20.12.2008, 16:32 +0100 schrieb Jos vd Snepscheut:
> Hello Andy and Michael,
> 
> Thank you for your answers.
> 
> No I did not use Qi=true!!!
> But now I did and debian is now up and running from SD!
> 
> and now there is a new question:
> 
> I do get an X screen with icons on the top level but there is no Zhone 
> (just a grey screen no desktop) how can I get one.
> 
> thank and greetings

there is a problem with python-evas being out-of-sync with libevas. See
the list archives for packages built to work around this, and track
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=508697
to see when this is fixed.

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2008.12 and USB network Ubuntu Intrepid

[Pander]

Hi all,

On FR I've installed 2008.12 and on my laptop Ubuntu Interpid with wicd.

I've tried several combinations of
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking#Debian.2C_Ubuntu_and_others
and ifconfig once told me it has a usb0 when I still had network-manager
but so far I've not been able to ping or ssh the FR.

Now with wicd, I have added this
# freerunner
allow-hotplug usb0
iface usb0 inet static
address 192.168.0.200
netmask 255.255.255.0
up iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -s 192.168.0.0/24 -j MASQUERADE
up echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
down iptables -D POSTROUTING -t nat -s 192.168.0.0/24 -j MASQUERADE

added the udev rule and script and patched this
/etc/udev/rules.d/85-ifupdown.rules

Should this be enough?

Update, I had it running after manually running "freerunner start" but
now it is dead again :(

What is the exact (and minimal) configuration for my setup with wicd to
get this working?

Thanks,

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Re: [OM 2008.12] Enlightenment Drop Shadow Performance

[The Rasterman]

On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:13:59 +0100 "Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster"
 babbled:

> Dylan Reilly schrieb:
> > FWIW, I have been able to reduce the CPU usage of Enlightenment on my
> > OM testing build device by disabling drop shadows. After recent
> > updates from testing (which should be more or less the 2008.12 image)
> > Enlightenment was constantly grabbing 20% CPU and who knows how much
> > IO. After I obliterated the drop shadow module,
> > (/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/dropshadow) only 1-2% CPU is being
> > used.
> >
> > Moreover, I remembered some recent post(s) tentatively linking the
> > Software-16 crashes (when using the illume theme) to drop shadows. On
> > a whim I re-enabled that engine and am not seeing any problems. So,
> > now I get a snappier UI to boot.
> >
> >   
> WOOHOO!!! you made my day

dropshadow shouldnt cause 20% cpu - unless some totally bizarre stuff has been
done to the theme:


  PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND   
 1261 root  20   0 23892  15m 6312 S  4.3 12.6  18:58.82 python 
 1336 root  17  -3 22388  14m 6064 S  0.7 11.4  16:39.74 python 
 1338 root  10 -10 22596  11m 7388 S  0.0  9.4   7:43.75 enlightenment  
 1381 root  21   1 11020 2860 2080 S  0.0  2.3   0:01.33 enlightenment_f
 1317 root  19  -1  9968 2852 1564 S  0.0  2.3   1:05.34 Xglamo 
 1387 root  21   1  4724 1516 1084 S  0.0  1.2   0:01.12 batget 

0% cpu. it will consume a little cpu while charging (2-3%) (redrawing the
blinking + on the battery). this is out-of-the-box theme with dropshadows on
etc. (illume+e without shr/fdom/asu changes).

e-wm - 0.16.999.050+svnr37919-r4 - 


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Re: Booting from large microSD (SDHC) [success]

[Bernt]

Lothar Behrens wrote:
> 
> Here is the problem: After first boot I couldn't use fdisk, because it  
> couldn't access anyhow.
> 

My 16 GB SanDisk SD-Card at first had also a problem with fdisk (from SHR
distribution),
but after an `opkg upgrade` all was working fine.

Bernt

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Re: openmoko opkg update issue

[Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster]

Ketaki Deo schrieb:
> Hi,
>
> I am a student working on openmoko.
> I followed the instructions on the getting started will openmoko wiki 
> and tried to update my neo freerunner with the command,
>
> opkg update
>
> But it gave me the signature check failed error, so i changed the URL 
> to http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2007.2
> But it is still giving me the error and not downloading any packages.
> Can anyone please help me resolve this issue?

what you did was not very intelligent. you should undo you cahnges!
that signature errors are normal, because currently there are no signatures

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Re: om-manager 0.1.0 released

[Petr Vanek]

>> van...@laptop-vanek:~/FreeRunner/manager/dist/om-manager$ aptitude
>> show python-wxgtk2.6 Package: python-wxgtk2.6
>> State: installed
>> Automatically installed: no
>> Version: 2.6.3.2.2-3

>Try to upgrade to latest wx (2.8.*). Just checked from my debian box --
>program starts up nicely.


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openmoko opkg update issue

[Ketaki Deo]

Hi,

I am a student working on openmoko.
I followed the instructions on the getting started will openmoko wiki and
tried to update my neo freerunner with the command,

opkg update

But it gave me the signature check failed error, so i changed the URL to
http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2007.2
But it is still giving me the error and not downloading any packages.
Can anyone please help me resolve this issue?


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Re: om-manager 0.1.0 released

[Ilja O.]

On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 11:02 PM, Petr Vanek  wrote:

> >I'm happy to announce that I've finally managed to push out 0.1.0
> >version of om-manager.
>
> Wanted to try but:
>
> van...@laptop-vanek:~/FreeRunner/manager/dist/om-manager$ ./run.sh
> = UNHALTED EXCEPTION =
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "./app/run.py", line 92, in 
>run(sys.argv[1:])
>  File "./app/run.py", line 86, in run
>_app.run()
>  File
> "/home/vanous/FreeRunner/manager/dist/om-manager/app/appRoot.py", line
> 79, in run self.showMainWindow() File
> "/home/vanous/FreeRunner/manager/dist/om-manager/app/appRoot.py", line
> 97, in showMainWindow from .gui import main as mainForm File
> "/home/vanous/FreeRunner/manager/dist/om-manager/app/gui/main.py", line
> 3, in  from .xrc.main_xrc import xrcMain File
> "/home/vanous/FreeRunner/manager/dist/om-manager/app/gui/xrc/__init__.py",
> line 15, in  initAllMainModules() File
> "/home/vanous/FreeRunner/manager/dist/om-manager/app/gui/xrc/__init__.py",
> line 13, in initAllMainModules utils.initModule(_modName % _name,
> os.path.join(_curDir, _file)) File
> "/home/vanous/FreeRunner/manager/dist/om-manager/app/util/xrc/__init__.py",
> line 49, in initModule _res = loadXrcFile(_xrcfile) File
> "/home/vanous/FreeRunner/manager/dist/om-manager/app/util/xrc/__init__.py",
> line 26, in loadXrcFile _res.InsertHandler(_handle()) File
>
> "/home/vanous/FreeRunner/manager/dist/om-manager/app/util/side/xh_gizmos.py",
> line 94, in __init__ self.AddStyle('wxDEFAULT_COL_WIDTH',
> gizmos.DEFAULT_COL_WIDTH) AttributeError: 'module' object has no
> attribute 'DEFAULT_COL_WIDTH' = END =---
>
>
> van...@laptop-vanek:~/FreeRunner/manager/dist/om-manager$ python
> --version Python 2.5.2
>
> van...@laptop-vanek:~/FreeRunner/manager/dist/om-manager$ aptitude show
> python-wxgtk2.6 Package: python-wxgtk2.6
> State: installed
> Automatically installed: no
> Version: 2.6.3.2.2-3
>
> van...@laptop-vanek:~/FreeRunner/manager/dist/om-manager$ uname -a
> Linux laptop-vanek 2.6.27-7-generic #1 SMP Thu Oct 30 04:18:38 UTC 2008
> i686 GNU/Linux
>
> van...@laptop-vanek:~/FreeRunner/manager/dist/om-manager$
> cat /etc/debian_version
> 5.0
>
> Any idea what's wrong here?
>
>


Try to upgrade to latest wx (2.8.*). Just checked from my debian box --
program starts up nicely.
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Re: om-manager 0.1.0 released

[Petr Vanek]

>I'm happy to announce that I've finally managed to push out 0.1.0
>version of om-manager.

Wanted to try but:

van...@laptop-vanek:~/FreeRunner/manager/dist/om-manager$ ./run.sh
= UNHALTED EXCEPTION =
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "./app/run.py", line 92, in 
run(sys.argv[1:])
  File "./app/run.py", line 86, in run
_app.run()
  File
"/home/vanous/FreeRunner/manager/dist/om-manager/app/appRoot.py", line
79, in run self.showMainWindow() File
"/home/vanous/FreeRunner/manager/dist/om-manager/app/appRoot.py", line
97, in showMainWindow from .gui import main as mainForm File
"/home/vanous/FreeRunner/manager/dist/om-manager/app/gui/main.py", line
3, in  from .xrc.main_xrc import xrcMain File
"/home/vanous/FreeRunner/manager/dist/om-manager/app/gui/xrc/__init__.py",
line 15, in  initAllMainModules() File
"/home/vanous/FreeRunner/manager/dist/om-manager/app/gui/xrc/__init__.py",
line 13, in initAllMainModules utils.initModule(_modName % _name,
os.path.join(_curDir, _file)) File
"/home/vanous/FreeRunner/manager/dist/om-manager/app/util/xrc/__init__.py",
line 49, in initModule _res = loadXrcFile(_xrcfile) File
"/home/vanous/FreeRunner/manager/dist/om-manager/app/util/xrc/__init__.py",
line 26, in loadXrcFile _res.InsertHandler(_handle()) File
"/home/vanous/FreeRunner/manager/dist/om-manager/app/util/side/xh_gizmos.py",
line 94, in __init__ self.AddStyle('wxDEFAULT_COL_WIDTH',
gizmos.DEFAULT_COL_WIDTH) AttributeError: 'module' object has no
attribute 'DEFAULT_COL_WIDTH' = END =---


van...@laptop-vanek:~/FreeRunner/manager/dist/om-manager$ python
--version Python 2.5.2

van...@laptop-vanek:~/FreeRunner/manager/dist/om-manager$ aptitude show
python-wxgtk2.6 Package: python-wxgtk2.6
State: installed
Automatically installed: no
Version: 2.6.3.2.2-3

van...@laptop-vanek:~/FreeRunner/manager/dist/om-manager$ uname -a
Linux laptop-vanek 2.6.27-7-generic #1 SMP Thu Oct 30 04:18:38 UTC 2008
i686 GNU/Linux

van...@laptop-vanek:~/FreeRunner/manager/dist/om-manager$
cat /etc/debian_version 
5.0

Any idea what's wrong here?


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Re: om-manager 0.1.0 released

[Ilja O.]

On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 10:44 PM, Ilja O.  wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 10:22 PM, Lech Karol Pawłaszek wrote:
>
>> Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster wrote:
>> [...]
>> > Not that i think it has much to do with your error, but you do know how
>> > windows handles ssh?
>> > (the answer is: not at all, because windows doesn't know ssh or anything
>> > alse that is absolutely fundemantal regarding networking, so you have to
>> > use puTTY, although, the program should at least start..)
>> > i goint to try it out tomorrow under vista and under debian
>>
>> The program uses paramiko library so one doesn't need ssh client binary.
>>
>> om-manager is nice. I was about to write something similar - like a
>> "host computer utility" in python (but using Tkinter instead of wx)
>> which connects to Freerunner and executes commands however "mine" was
>> intended to mimic Debian's reportbug utility. Right now we have so many
>> distributions, bootloaders and kernels that sometimes it's hard to
>> reproduce the environment. I'm thinking about automation of gathering
>> informations about a bug process. `uname -a`, `opkg list_installed` `cat
>> /sys/magic/something`. If you don't mind Ilja I'll try to use your
>> om-manager as a base for my work.
>>
>> As I see om-manager is plugins-capable so I hope all I want to achieve
>> will be only a plugin for your program.
>>
>> ;-) Well. That's just a plan for Christmas holidays...
>>
>
> I would be happy to see anyone contributing. As far as I can see,
> "LogRetreiver" plugin could be nice basis for developing such functionality
> (currently it acquires verious log files/outputs. such as dmesg and
> /var/log/syslog).
>
> Feel free to contact me for any kind of help or support (and inclusion of
> you into project itself).
>
>

In fact, I'll really look forward to you questions. It would allow me to
start writing developer documentation (I haven't done it until now and hence
have hard time imagining what should be written and what could be omitted.
Since I'm not capable writing everything)
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Re: om-manager 0.1.0 released

[Ilja O.]

On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Yorick Moko  wrote:

> downloaded the 2.6.1 and now i get:
>
> F:\temp\dist\om-manager\app>run.py
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>  File "F:\temp\dist\om-manager\app\run.py", line 7, in 
>from app import logger, gui
> ImportError: No module named app
>
>
On windows use "run.bat" in the \om-manager
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Re: om-manager 0.1.0 released

[Ilja O.]

On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 10:22 PM, Lech Karol Pawłaszek wrote:

> Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster wrote:
> [...]
> > Not that i think it has much to do with your error, but you do know how
> > windows handles ssh?
> > (the answer is: not at all, because windows doesn't know ssh or anything
> > alse that is absolutely fundemantal regarding networking, so you have to
> > use puTTY, although, the program should at least start..)
> > i goint to try it out tomorrow under vista and under debian
>
> The program uses paramiko library so one doesn't need ssh client binary.
>
> om-manager is nice. I was about to write something similar - like a
> "host computer utility" in python (but using Tkinter instead of wx)
> which connects to Freerunner and executes commands however "mine" was
> intended to mimic Debian's reportbug utility. Right now we have so many
> distributions, bootloaders and kernels that sometimes it's hard to
> reproduce the environment. I'm thinking about automation of gathering
> informations about a bug process. `uname -a`, `opkg list_installed` `cat
> /sys/magic/something`. If you don't mind Ilja I'll try to use your
> om-manager as a base for my work.
>
> As I see om-manager is plugins-capable so I hope all I want to achieve
> will be only a plugin for your program.
>
> ;-) Well. That's just a plan for Christmas holidays...
>

I would be happy to see anyone contributing. As far as I can see,
"LogRetreiver" plugin could be nice basis for developing such functionality
(currently it acquires verious log files/outputs. such as dmesg and
/var/log/syslog).

Feel free to contact me for any kind of help or support (and inclusion of
you into project itself).
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Re: om-manager 0.1.0 released

[Ilja O.]

On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 8:46 PM, Yorick Moko  wrote:

> I installed python 3.0 on windows xp (sp3) from
> http://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.0/python-3.0.msi
> but when i try to run it I get
>
> F:\temp\dist\om-manager\app>run.py
>  File "F:\temp\dist\om-manager\app\run.py", line 78
>print usage
>  ^
> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
>
> I'm probably doing something wrong.


No, you're doing everything right. It's just that I haven't any time to run
it on different Python major versions. It should be easy enough to adapt
code to Python 3k. Quite likely it all adaptation will likely to consist of
replacing "print ..." statements with "print(...)". And it's likely that
there one or two places where print is used at all.
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Re: [OM 2008.12] Enlightenment Drop Shadow Performance

[Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster]

Dylan Reilly schrieb:
> FWIW, I have been able to reduce the CPU usage of Enlightenment on my
> OM testing build device by disabling drop shadows. After recent
> updates from testing (which should be more or less the 2008.12 image)
> Enlightenment was constantly grabbing 20% CPU and who knows how much
> IO. After I obliterated the drop shadow module,
> (/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/dropshadow) only 1-2% CPU is being
> used.
>
> Moreover, I remembered some recent post(s) tentatively linking the
> Software-16 crashes (when using the illume theme) to drop shadows. On
> a whim I re-enabled that engine and am not seeing any problems. So,
> now I get a snappier UI to boot.
>
>   
WOOHOO!!! you made my day

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Re: Abwesenheitsnotiz community Digest, Vol 110, Issue 70

[Joachim Steiger]

Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
> Please unsubscribe this guy.
> 
> Oguz, if you are on a mailing list, you better change your subscription 
> options before going on vacation.

disabled his mail delivery in mailman. he can reenable it himself easily
via the webinterface.

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Re: [Om 2008.12] No ssh / no wifi ?

[swap38]

Ed Kapitein a écrit :
> I ran into a similar problem.
> The solution that worked for me was:
>
>  dfu-util -a kernel -R -D Om2008.12-om-gta02.uImage.bin
>  dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D Om2008.12-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2
>  dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin
>
> Some of that might not be needed, but i did it anyway.
> After it booted i had no working usb.
> so i powered it down, removed the battery and usb cord, waited a few
> secs and powered it back on again.
> Now it did work as expected.
That's what I've done but using neotool for flashing.
The order was different (rootfs first), is it important ?
Can somebody explain what "lowlevel" is ?

I will retry to flash all manually.

/Swap38

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[OM 2008.12] Enlightenment Drop Shadow Performance

[Dylan Reilly]

FWIW, I have been able to reduce the CPU usage of Enlightenment on my
OM testing build device by disabling drop shadows. After recent
updates from testing (which should be more or less the 2008.12 image)
Enlightenment was constantly grabbing 20% CPU and who knows how much
IO. After I obliterated the drop shadow module,
(/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/dropshadow) only 1-2% CPU is being
used.

Moreover, I remembered some recent post(s) tentatively linking the
Software-16 crashes (when using the illume theme) to drop shadows. On
a whim I re-enabled that engine and am not seeing any problems. So,
now I get a snappier UI to boot.

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[Android]

[rakshat hooja]

I was in the process of flashing android for the first time. I understand
only GSM works on android (no wifi or gps) and thats ok with me. Just had
two questions

1) Is there a media player inbuilt in the android flash image?
2) Should one flash the Kolou beta image or Sean's image?

Thanks

Rakshat

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Stylus/finger based innovative input

[Yogiz]

Here's something that I found in my RSS feed:
http://procrastineering.blogspot.com/2008/12/nice-pen-based-input-research.html

I found all three projects interesting and thought whether they would
connect to the freerunner as well.

While the first one would not come in too handy as freerunner
touchscreen does not sense strength of pressure, the other two could
provide some interesting solutions, particularly the second one.

Display bridging drags could be used for quickly connecting freerunners
with other freerunners or tablet laptops and share files and give
presentations rather painlessly.

The rolling interface could other provide ideas for hardware
modifications (attaching sensors to stylus for roll input connected to
freerunner via blueooth for example) or why not do it the other way,
keeping finger/stylus in place while moving freerunner underneath
(accelerometers).

What do you think?

Yogiz

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Abwesenheitsnotiz community Digest, Vol 110, Issue 87

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Betrifft: Ihre Nachricht vom 21.12.08 16:06:27


Ich bin ab dem 29.12.08 wieder im Hause der WGZ Bank erreichbar. In
dringenden Fällen wenden
Sie sich bitte an meine Kollegen aus dem IT-PM.

I am currently out of office and will be back the 29.12.2008. For any
urgent matter, please contact
the usual suspects.


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Re: [Android] koolu first beta release

[Andreas Wallin]

I tried it,
Still the keyboard does not work in all "text" dialogs, wifi doesn't work,

I cant lock screen, and suspend still doesn't work, GSM seems to work.

I reflashed my openmoko with qt after 1 days use, When suspend,lock
screen and soft keyboard works i will give android a new try,

greetings !

Cédric Berger wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 17:14, Giorgio Marci  > wrote:
>
> Koolu has released the first Android OS beta release.
>
> Does anyone have tried it? 
>
>
> I flashed it.
>
> I did not notice significant changes from Sean's image of 5 dec. (yet ?)
> - Software keyboard has been modified with bigger keys.
> - Cannot turn on bluetooth anymore
>
> Did not try GSM yet.
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Re: Importing Contacts from Thunderbird

[Will Siddall]

> Can you tell me what you found out about the format? It also does not
> import contacts from jpilot.

What I noticed is that in most contact lines, the format would be:

TEL;TYPE=CELL,VOICE:5551234567

the sed line pretty much changes the line to:

TEL;CELL;VOICE:5551234567

Now, I'm no expert on the VCard format, but this a big difference
between the formats that did work and what I had that didn't.  So, I
applied this line to a VCard that had about 100 contacts and
everything went in afterwards (after taking out multiple line notes)

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[Hackable-0.1 - rev 2] - dist-upgrade not working

[Linus Gasser]

Hello Hackables,

As I didn't find the tracker for the Hackable distribution, I try here.
I installed hackable which seems to be most of what I need and want. I
already broke it ;) When doing "apt-get dist-upgrade", I got two errors:

- matchbox-something wanted to overwrite a file already present on the
system - nothing a dpkg --force-all couldn't fix. But still...

- linux-kernel was complaining about not being able to make a link to
/boot/uImage - understandable, as it's a VFAT partition hanging around
there.

- after the dist-upgrade, the GSM icon doesn't show up anymore (I did
install notifier-daemon) - anyobdy else?

I'm happy having taken the Openmoko up, again...

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Re: [Om 2008.12] No ssh / no wifi ?

[Linus Gasser]

Ed Kapitein a écrit :
> Linus Gasser wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have the same problem - did they put in a non-compatible kernel 
>> version with regards to module? Does anybody have a working Om 2008.12 
>> version?
>>
>> I checked the md5sums and they seem to be OK.
>>
>> - Is it necessary to flash more than the JFFS and the uImage?
>> - Do I need to flash the u-boot, too?
>> - And what is the "lowlevel" for?
>> - Does anyone have a working Om 2008.12 with USB and/or Wifi?
>>
>> Looking forward,
>>
>> Linus
>>   
> Hi Linus,
> 
> I ran into a similar problem.
> The solution that worked for me was:
> 
>  dfu-util -a kernel -R -D Om2008.12-om-gta02.uImage.bin
>  dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D Om2008.12-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2
>  dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin
> 
> Some of that might not be needed, but i did it anyway.
> After it booted i had no working usb.
> so i powered it down, removed the battery and usb cord, waited a few
> secs and powered it back on again.
> Now it did work as expected.
> notice that the first boot took almost 2 minutes, while the second boot
> took a little under a a minute.
> i hope this helps.

Hi,

thanks, now it works. I must've fotgotten the kernel or so. Well, the 
Wifi-option is still not available from "Settings", but at least I can 
ssh into it using USB and then activate the Wifi.

Linus

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Re: Text editing - esay cursor moving idea

[nurgle]

Leonti Bielski  wrote:
> Hello!
> Today I went to youtube to listen some Neil Young songs and I found
> this video on the front page:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qpxf28ja67Q&feature=dir

> What do you think? Can it be useful? Is it worth implementing into illume?

It certainly looks useful. I like the concept.

regards,
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Re: Text editing - esay cursor moving idea

[Yogiz]

On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 13:25:05 +0100
"Leonti Bielski"  wrote:

> Hello!
> Today I went to youtube to listen some Neil Young songs and I found
> this video on the front page:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qpxf28ja67Q&feature=dir
> 
> What do you think? Can it be useful? Is it worth implementing into
> illume?
> 
> Leonti

Looks like a good idea to me. As far as I know in a lot of apps
(terminal), moving the cursor is not possible at all, but in these
where it is, I have problems with it so that kind of helper would come
in handy.

Yogiz

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Re: [Om 2008.12] No ssh / no wifi ?

[Timo Jyrinki]

2008/12/20 swap38 :
> Second surprise : I can't ping 192.168.0.202 (so I can't connect to it
> with ssh)

I had the same problem on first boot, and it was simply resolved by
booting again. On subsequent boots ssh has worked every time.

-Timo

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Re: Bluetooth headset GUI configuration

[Carl Lobo]

Basically simply followed the steps on the Bluez Wiki for bonding. The
rest of Angus' scripts seem to work. You don't even need the device in
discoverable mode etc if you know it's bluetooth address
simply
passkey-agent --default  (in one console - sometimes it stops on
tty output if i do an &)
dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=org.bluez
/org/bluez/hci0 org.bluez.Adapter.CreateBonding string:
then in ~/.asoundrc

pcm.headset_raw {
type bluetooth
device 
profile "voice"
}

ctl.headset {
type bluetooth;
device 
}

pcm.headset {
type plug
slave.pcm = headset_raw
}

BtHeadset.py should work after that.

Now here's the strange thing - if I try

mplayer -ao alsa:device=headset it connects and shows me that its
playing - there are several card resets and hcid seg-faults every once
in a while, but I see SDP packets using hcidump. I tried all the Btcpu
state files as well as fiddling around with alsamixer (from whatever
little I could guess wildly at from the wolfson diagrams on wiki, past
emails etc) but no sound. There may be data coming in in a codec my
headset doesn't understand because if I press the volume key the
acknowledgement sound comes really distorted. Maybe my ScoRouting=HCI
then, I tried this quite some time back, I could have tried with
both...
however when I try a call -> the Angus' BtHeadset script shows me now
playing, same with hcid -n -d. However no sdp packets before or after
I restore the state. Also ScoRouting=PCM (otherwise it refuses the
headset play). And absolutely no sound on the call on either end (the
mic or speakers of the freerunner, headset or cordless phone). I can
hear both ends properly from the expected devices before I restore the
state file.
I tried building bluez 4.22 a couple of weeks back. It better
identifies the features of my headset (the full handsfree profile) but
doesn't look like it's implemented... (there's no telephony-*.c for
openmoko in the bluez source either). But no sound here as well and on
occasion a blinking red AUX led and a kernel crash :).
The headset does work with my laptop though - using bluez 3.30 I
think. I could hcidump on both devices if anyone can understand it and
help... At least the output of hcid -n -d seems very similar for both
the laptop (on FC9) and the FR (on the newest SHR).
The bluetooth headset is something I badly miss, I can't take any
calls while driving. But at least I can take calls pretty reliably now
though :)

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[Oguz Varol]

Betrifft: Ihre Nachricht vom 21.12.08 14:28:21


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Re: [Om 2008.12] No ssh / no wifi ?

[Ed Kapitein]

Linus Gasser wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have the same problem - did they put in a non-compatible kernel 
> version with regards to module? Does anybody have a working Om 2008.12 
> version?
>
> I checked the md5sums and they seem to be OK.
>
> - Is it necessary to flash more than the JFFS and the uImage?
> - Do I need to flash the u-boot, too?
> - And what is the "lowlevel" for?
> - Does anyone have a working Om 2008.12 with USB and/or Wifi?
>
> Looking forward,
>
> Linus
>   
Hi Linus,

I ran into a similar problem.
The solution that worked for me was:

 dfu-util -a kernel -R -D Om2008.12-om-gta02.uImage.bin
 dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D Om2008.12-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2
 dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin

Some of that might not be needed, but i did it anyway.
After it booted i had no working usb.
so i powered it down, removed the battery and usb cord, waited a few
secs and powered it back on again.
Now it did work as expected.
notice that the first boot took almost 2 minutes, while the second boot
took a little under a a minute.
i hope this helps.

Kind regards,
Ed



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Re: Importing Contacts from Thunderbird

[Al Johnson]

If I understand the sed command it is changing some of the syntax from vCard 
v3.0 to vCard v2.1. I guess the addressbook app doesn't handle v3.0 but 
doesn't check the VERSION entry in the vCard either.

On Sunday 21 December 2008, Dennis Wollersheim wrote:
> Hey Will
>
> Can you tell me what you found out about the format? It also does not
> import contacts from jpilot.
>
> Cheers
> Dennis
>
> Will Siddall wrote:
> > Hey,
> > I know there's a wiki item for this, but I just have to send it to
> > everyone.  I want to edit the wiki, but I don't know if anyone has run
> > into this problem yet.
> >
> > The wiki shows to install a VCF plugin for thunderbird then just
> > import the VCF into your contacts app.  I had a lot of problems with
> > this and actually found that the format of the VCF file doesn't match
> > what 'addressbook' is looking for.
> >
> > Instead, here are the steps I found to work and if anyone can confirm
> > this, I will add it to the wiki.
> >
> > 1: Export your addressbook/contacts to VCF file(s)
> > 2: From your terminal, run:
> > sed -r -e 's/;TYPE=([^,]+),([^:]+):/;\1;\2:/g' old.vcf > new.vcf
> > 3: From your OpenMoko, run:
> > addressbook new.vcf
> >
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Re: Bluetooth headset GUI configuration

[Simon Kagstrom]

On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:29:07 +0530
"Carl Lobo"  wrote:

> >  dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply
> > --dest=org.bluez /org/bluez/hci0 org.bluez.Adapter.CreateBonding
> > string:
> >
> > but all I get is
> >
> >   Error org.bluez.Error.AuthenticationRejected: Authentication
> > Rejected
>
> You can try to run the command
> passkey-agent --default 
> in another ssh console before the dbus-send command.
> 
> I managed to create a bonding but no sound on my Jawbone 2 with either
> the Btcpu or gsm_headset.txt files found in the wiki. It shows me that
> it's playing in the logs.

Sounds promising! What distribution are you running? What steps did you
take after the bonding?

// Simon

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Re: [Om 2008.12] No ssh / no wifi ?

[Linus Gasser]

swap38 a écrit :
> Hi all,
> 
> I've just flashed my neo with Om2008.12 with (jffs2, uImage and u-Boot 
> md5sums are OK, neotool didn't report any error => everything is OK)
> 
> First surprise : there's no wifi option
> Second surprise : I can't ping 192.168.0.202 (so I can't connect to it 
> with ssh)

Hi,

I have the same problem - did they put in a non-compatible kernel 
version with regards to module? Does anybody have a working Om 2008.12 
version?

I checked the md5sums and they seem to be OK.

- Is it necessary to flash more than the JFFS and the uImage?
- Do I need to flash the u-boot, too?
- And what is the "lowlevel" for?
- Does anyone have a working Om 2008.12 with USB and/or Wifi?

Looking forward,

Linus

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Text editing - esay cursor moving idea

[Leonti Bielski]

Hello!
Today I went to youtube to listen some Neil Young songs and I found
this video on the front page:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qpxf28ja67Q&feature=dir

What do you think? Can it be useful? Is it worth implementing into illume?

Leonti

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Weather app: meooem 0.0.1

[Yann Neveu]

Here: 
http://gabuzomeu.fr/openmoko/meooem/ and on 
http://www.opkg.org/package_66.html , you'll find a small app which fetch yahoo 
rss weather feed and add an icon on your illume launcher. 
You can press on it to update datas. If not connected, no feed, and the temp 
will be -1.

Code is bloated and ugly and the next step is to clean up before adding other 
functions like displaying next days forecast and things like that. Other 
change will be the icon set which could be more free than the stardock ones 
(see the /usr/share/pixmaps/meoeem/stardock/permission.txt).

Please modify  /etc/meooem.conf to have you preffered city weather instead of 
mine.

Any suggestions welcomed.

Yann


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Re: Bluetooth headset GUI configuration

[Carl Lobo]

You can try to run the command
passkey-agent --default 
in another ssh console before the dbus-send command.

I managed to create a bonding but no sound on my Jawbone 2 with either
the Btcpu or gsm_headset.txt files found in the wiki. It shows me that
it's playing in the logs.

On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Simon Kagstrom
 wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 20:54:36 +
> Al Johnson  wrote:
>
>> >   r...@om-gta02:~# dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.bluez
>> > /org/bluez org.bluez.Manager.ActivateService string:audio Error
>> > org.bluez.Error.NoSuchService: No such service
>> >
>> > it seems like bluez-utils have been compiled without --enable-audio.
>> > Could this be the problem?
>>
>> Do you have bluez-audio or bluez-utils-alsa installed? They aren't in
>> FSO by default.
>
> Right, that's it. I did
>
>  opkg install bluez-audio
>  opkg install bluez-utils
>  /etc/init.d/bluetooth stop
>  /etc/init.d/bluetooth start
>
> and now the audio service is there. However, I still can't get the
> connection to actually work. I've tried to pair with my computer:
>
>  dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=org.bluez 
> /org/bluez/hci0 org.bluez.Adapter.CreateBonding string:
>
> but all I get is
>
>   Error org.bluez.Error.AuthenticationRejected: Authentication Rejected
>
> With FSO I also get some kernel problems (2.6.24) when releasing the reset:
>
>   usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using s3c2410-ohci and address 3
>   usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
>   sysfs: duplicate filename 'hci_usb' can not be created
>   WARNING: at fs/sysfs/dir.c:424 sysfs_add_one()
>   [] (dump_stack+0x0/0x14) from [] 
> (sysfs_add_one+0x50/0xfc)
>   [] (sysfs_add_one+0x0/0xfc) from [] 
> (create_dir+0x58/0xa8)
>r6:fff4 r5:c7085e48 r4:c7f1cab4
>   [] (create_dir+0x0/0xa8) from [] 
> (sysfs_create_dir+0x40/0x60)
>r8:0008 r7:bf001e6c r6:bf003568 r5:bf003520 r4:bf003568
>   [] (sysfs_create_dir+0x0/0x60) from [] 
> (kobject_add+0xf4/0x1d0)
>r4:bf003568
>   [] (kobject_add+0x0/0x1d0) from [] 
> (mod_sysfs_setup+0x28/0xb4)
>   [] (mod_sysfs_setup+0x0/0xb4) from [] 
> (sys_init_module+0xf90/0x14bc)
>r8:c886ca04 r7:c886cbbc r6:bf003520 r5: r4:bf001e6c
>   [] (sys_init_module+0x0/0x14bc) from [] 
> (ret_fast_syscall+0x0/0x2c)
>   kobject_add failed for hci_usb with -EEXIST, don't try to register things 
> with the same name in the same directory.
>   [] (dump_stack+0x0/0x14) from [] 
> (kobject_add+0x184/0x1d0)
>   [] (kobject_add+0x0/0x1d0) from [] 
> (mod_sysfs_setup+0x28/0xb4)
>   [] (mod_sysfs_setup+0x0/0xb4) from [] 
> (sys_init_module+0xf90/0x14bc)
>r8:c886ca04 r7:c886cbbc r6:bf003520 r5: r4:bf001e6c
>   [] (sys_init_module+0x0/0x14bc) from [] 
> (ret_fast_syscall+0x0/0x2c)
>   sysfs: duplicate filename 'hci_usb' can not be created
>   WARNING: at fs/sysfs/dir.c:424 sysfs_add_one()
>   [] (dump_stack+0x0/0x14) from [] 
> (sysfs_add_one+0x50/0xfc)
>   [] (sysfs_add_one+0x0/0xfc) from [] 
> (create_dir+0x58/0xa8)
>r6:fff4 r5:c7e9fe48 r4:c7f1cab4
>   []
>
> so no luck so far.
>
> // Simon
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Re: Abwesenheitsnotiz community Digest, Vol 110, Issue 85

[nick d.]

I can't get enough of these! Keep us posted!

/s

2008/12/21 Oguz Varol 

>
> Betrifft: Ihre Nachricht vom 21.12.08 12:00:02
>
>
> Ich bin ab dem 29.12.08 wieder im Hause der WGZ Bank erreichbar. In
> dringenden Fällen wenden
> Sie sich bitte an meine Kollegen aus dem IT-PM.
>
> I am currently out of office and will be back the 29.12.2008. For any
> urgent matter, please contact
> the usual suspects.
>
>
> Mit freundlichem Gruß / Best Regards
> Dr. Oguz Varol
>
>
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Abwesenheitsnotiz community Digest, Vol 110, Issue 85

[Oguz Varol]

Betrifft: Ihre Nachricht vom 21.12.08 12:00:02


Ich bin ab dem 29.12.08 wieder im Hause der WGZ Bank erreichbar. In
dringenden Fällen wenden
Sie sich bitte an meine Kollegen aus dem IT-PM.

I am currently out of office and will be back the 29.12.2008. For any
urgent matter, please contact
the usual suspects.


Mit freundlichem Gruß / Best Regards
Dr. Oguz Varol

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Re: [2008.12] Accelerometer latency

[Timo Juhani Lindfors]

Charles-Henri Gros  writes:
> Any ideas why this may be happening / how to fix it?

Sounds like http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket//2145


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Abwesenheitsnotiz community Digest, Vol 110, Issue 84

[Oguz Varol]

Betrifft: Ihre Nachricht vom 21.12.08 11:09:38


Ich bin ab dem 29.12.08 wieder im Hause der WGZ Bank erreichbar. In
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Sie sich bitte an meine Kollegen aus dem IT-PM.

I am currently out of office and will be back the 29.12.2008. For any
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Mit freundlichem Gruß / Best Regards
Dr. Oguz Varol

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Re: Abwesenheitsnotiz community Digest, Vol 110, Issue 70

[Michele Renda]

Il 20/12/2008 23:00, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer ha scritto:
> Oguz, if you are on a mailing list, you better change your subscription
> options before going on vacation.
>
Hello Michael. According you will be ok to remove the reply to address 
the address "community@lists.openmoko.org" from daily digest?

Thank you
Michele Renda

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Re: Booting from large microSD (SDHC) [success]

[Lothar Behrens]

As I have posted the output of fdisk I have the partition.

I was able to create the partition and see it afterwards. So I agree  
with you

that it may the u-boot and or kernel. Mine is 2.6.24.

I think it's time for flashing :-)

Lothar

Am 21.12.2008 um 01:54 schrieb arne anka:


I have rebooted after formatting /dev/mmcblk0


/dev/mmcblk0 is the raw device, you want /dev/mmcblk0p1.
look at the output from fdisk ...

if it is still not there, your u-boot/kernel might be too old.
are there any messages at boot?

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Re: detect host type?

[Evgeny Karyakin]

Maybe http://nmap.org/book/man-os-detection.html ?

2008/12/20 Joel Newkirk :
> OK, an FR has just been plugged into the USB port on a random host PC.
>
> Is there any way for the FR to consistently identify if it is a windows,
> mac, or linux host?

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Re: [FSO/Illume] Program icons not showing up

[Ingvaldur Sigurjonsson]

Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 23:01:51 +0100 "Michael 'Mickey' Lauer"
>  babbled:
> 
>> This always happens when we're starting to stabilize for a release. Last 
>> time 
>> it was something with a missing mimetypes postinst. Raster, any idea what it 
>> can be this time?
> 
> icons display for me on my illume images, on desktop etc. etc. - so i'm on the
> "works for me" bandwagon (thus not answering these as i have no 'why' as i
> never saw it break). svnr37919 is the last svnr i built with OE
> 
   I'm having problems with the 'e-wm - 0.16.999.050+svnr37988-r0' build.

   I've been trying both fso-testing and fso-unstable, same results. 
Editing the .desktop files and removing all 'Name[xx]=...' did not help 
either. I even made sure there was only one line containing 
'Categories=' (some with multiple values, separated by ';') to no avail.

  I'll continue to harden some bolts and loosen up some screws so I will 
report if I make any progress.

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