Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability

[b_s-wilk]

Basically yes.  If you want a chicken in every pot.  Every local switch
and tandem switch has to be equipped.  Every mile has to be rebuilt.

It might be twice my estimate.


Or even 6 times as much. After you get done, and the cable companies run their 
system, then Google comes in behind all of you to run theirs.

I don't understand why everybody needs to roll their own fiber. I don't have three sets of power lines coming to my house. Why can't the "information" providers get together and run one system that they can all share at a fair price? *Before* the Feds regulate that you have to. 


Sure makes a lot of sense. That's the way they do it in some other 
countries where service is much cheaper than it is here. Both broadband 
and mobile service networks can be shared by multiple companies. 
Electric companies already share networks.


Why can't they get together? Why can't they share? Because the Feds 
didn't regulate that they have to, so they don't. Because even though it 
will be cheaper in the long run, it's more complicated to cooperate than 
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Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability

[Rev. Stewart Marshall]

Rules regulations ability to transmit stuff.

We have a new cable provider coming into town.

They have to run a whole new set of lines to serve everyone.

Not only that but on some poles they are already at capacity to carry 
wires so they will have to put up poles in some places.


When I lived in Canada they had two sets of poles one in front one in back.

The other place I lived had underground wiring so never saw a pole.

Stewart


At 10:16 PM 2/21/2010, you wrote:
Or even 6 times as much. After you get done, and the cable companies

run their system, then Google comes in behind all of you to run theirs.

I don't understand why everybody needs to roll their own fiber. I
don't have three sets of power lines coming to my house. Why can't the
"information" providers get together and run one system that they can
all share at a fair price? *Before* the Feds regulate that you have to.


Rev. Stewart A. Marshall
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Re: [CGUYS] Anybody else find all tom's post in gMail spam?

[Rev. Stewart Marshall]

Or it actually read the contents of the post.  :-)

Stewart


At 10:30 PM 2/21/2010, you wrote:

Not intentionally.  I was wondering if it was seeding off of someone else's
Spam marking.

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 10:44 PM, Tony B  wrote:

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Re: [CGUYS] Anybody else find all tom's post in gMail spam?

[John Duncan Yoyo]

Not intentionally.  I was wondering if it was seeding off of someone else's
Spam marking.

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 10:44 PM, Tony B  wrote:

> No. Are you sure you didn't mark one as spam at some point?
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 4:22 PM, John Duncan Yoyo
> wrote:
>
> > I just found the last couple of days worth of Tom's posts in the gMail
> Spam
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[CGUYS] System Mechanic

[D Freye]

Some time ago a list member said they liked System Mechanic for
cleaning up their machine and making it start and run faster. I do
not like it for these reasons:

  It cannot understand notepad++ and comes up with many false errors
  related to the program.

  Lots and lots of registry errors show up, many of which involve
  files containing ioio, the people who make System Mechanic.

 The program does not clean up a HP program that runs in the
 background and calls home once in a while. I only want the driver
 to run but the other program starts with the OS.

  No rootkit removal.

  Nothing about malware.

  Directions say to remove this version before loading a newer
  version but that operation is not included under "options".

  The machine still takes too long to boot even though it is a 3gh
  machine only 2 years old. 

  
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Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability

[Reid Katan]

Quoting "Eric S. Sande" :

The Interstate Highway System is pegged at $425 billion in 2006
dollars. So you are saying the unrolling fiber costs almost as much  
 as building a 6 lane national highway system?


Basically yes.  If you want a chicken in every pot.  Every local switch
and tandem switch has to be equipped.  Every mile has to be rebuilt.

It might be twice my estimate.


Or even 6 times as much. After you get done, and the cable companies  
run their system, then Google comes in behind all of you to run theirs.


I don't understand why everybody needs to roll their own fiber. I  
don't have three sets of power lines coming to my house. Why can't the  
"information" providers get together and run one system that they can  
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Re: [CGUYS] Anybody else find all tom's post in gMail spam?

[Tony B]

No. Are you sure you didn't mark one as spam at some point?


On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 4:22 PM, John Duncan Yoyo
wrote:

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Re: [CGUYS] Digital camera battery??

[Stewart Marshall]

I often suspect that they are selling seconds.

Stewart


At 08:31 PM 2/21/2010, you wrote:
Voltage is voltage, and the right voltage is needed.  But 7.4 V 
compared to 7.2 V is small.  One may wonder how a battery can differ 
by a small voltage, since a battery by definition is a series of 
electrical cells with voltages that add up from the individual cells 
that are connected in series.  For commercial usage, there are only 
a few kinds of cells (i.e., chemistry) available,  and each kind has 
a unique voltage associated with it within a narrow tolerance.  I 
suspect the difference between a 7.4 V battery and a 7.2 volt 
battery is simply a kind of puffery used to describe the battery 
since your camera will probably require one kind of electrical 
cell:  usually today, a lithium-ion or perhaps a nickel metal 
hydride cell.  (Check your camera manual to see which kind is recommended.)


The mAh means "milliamp-hours" and measures the charge that may be 
contained in a fully charged cell or battery.  (The charge is also 
measured in Coulombs.)  Ideally, a 650 mAh battery will deliver 650 
milliamps of current for one hour before becoming discharged -- or 
325 milliamps for two hours, etc.  Thus, a higher mAh rating ought 
to mean that the battery will have a longer life in a device before 
needing to be recharged.


But as the battery ages, both the energy stored and the voltage are 
subject to diminish after many recharges.  Eventually the battery 
becomes unsuitable for your application and needs to be replaced.


So far I have gotten good results by ordering from Battery Engine, a 
web store.  It is not the cheapest but offers a good discount from 
the manufacturer's list price.  There surely are other good sources, 
but I have not had good results from eBay, especially those that 
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Re: [CGUYS] Digital camera battery??

[Robert Carroll]

Voltage is voltage, and the right voltage is needed.  But 7.4 V compared 
to 7.2 V is small.  One may wonder how a battery can differ by a small 
voltage, since a battery by definition is a series of electrical cells 
with voltages that add up from the individual cells that are connected 
in series.  For commercial usage, there are only a few kinds of cells 
(i.e., chemistry) available,  and each kind has a unique voltage 
associated with it within a narrow tolerance.  I suspect the difference 
between a 7.4 V battery and a 7.2 volt battery is simply a kind of 
puffery used to describe the battery since your camera will probably 
require one kind of electrical cell:  usually today, a lithium-ion or 
perhaps a nickel metal hydride cell.  (Check your camera manual to see 
which kind is recommended.)


The mAh means "milliamp-hours" and measures the charge that may be 
contained in a fully charged cell or battery.  (The charge is also 
measured in Coulombs.)  Ideally, a 650 mAh battery will deliver 650 
milliamps of current for one hour before becoming discharged -- or 325 
milliamps for two hours, etc.  Thus, a higher mAh rating ought to mean 
that the battery will have a longer life in a device before needing to 
be recharged.


But as the battery ages, both the energy stored and the voltage are 
subject to diminish after many recharges.  Eventually the battery 
becomes unsuitable for your application and needs to be replaced.


So far I have gotten good results by ordering from Battery Engine, a web 
store.  It is not the cheapest but offers a good discount from the 
manufacturer's list price.  There surely are other good sources, but I 
have not had good results from eBay, especially those that ship from 
Hong Kong at a wonderfully low price.



Sue Cubic wrote:
I am searching online for an additional rechargeable battery for my 
Nikon Coolpix 775.  The original battery is 7.4V  650 mAh.  I am 
seeing choices of 7.2/7.4 800mAh (and 1000 and 1100).  All say they 
are compatible with my camera.  Most are 7.2V.  Does the difference in 
voltage matter?  Will 1100mAh last longer than 650 mAh?  What is my 
best choice?


I've just finished a road trip and kept killing the battery.  It was 
purchased in 2001, and really doesn't owe me anything!  Radio Shack 
sold me a non-rechargeable for $21, along the way.  Rechargeables I'm 
seeing online are all under $15.


Advice??

Thanks,
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Re: [CGUYS] AT&T coverage map

[Rev. Stewart Marshall]

It sounds like the old 5 bar commercials where they claimed that they 
had more 5 bar reception areas than any one else.


If you read the fine print they were counting all world wide 
locations that were not even ATT, just GSM coverage.


Felt it was a little misleading.

Stewart


At 07:46 PM 2/21/2010, you wrote:

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 6:16 PM, mike  wrote:

> Yeah!
>
> No idea what we are so there'ing...but...so there!

  So there!  As in, "Take that, you suckers!"

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Re: [CGUYS] AT&T coverage map

[phartz...@gmail.com]

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 6:16 PM, mike  wrote:

> Yeah!
>
> No idea what we are so there'ing...but...so there!

  So there!  As in, "Take that, you suckers!"

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Re: [CGUYS] AT&T coverage map

[mike]

Yeah!

No idea what we are so there'ing...but...so there!

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 4:01 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:

>
>
>  So there!
>
>  Steve
>
> --
> WARNING: Due to a Presidential Executive Order, the National Security
> Agency may have read this email without warning, warrant or notice.
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[CGUYS] AT&T coverage map

[phartz...@gmail.com]

 Has anyone else here read the fine print that appears at the bottom
of the newspaper page or at the bottom of the TV screen when AT&T runs
their ads that feature their coverage map?  It says, among other
things, that the map may or may not indicate actual coverage.  To wit,
areas shown to be covered by their 3G service may only indicate areas
where AT&T is licensed to provide service, but in actuality, AT&T may
not be providing any service in those areas at all.  Also, the small
print says that coverage in indicated areas may not be complete, and
also that the areas indicated on the map may not be accurate at all in
terms of service availability.

  So there!

  Steve

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Re: [CGUYS] Creepy or what?

[Robert Michael Abrams]

At 10:18 PM 2/20/2010, Steve  wrote:

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 9:21 PM, John Duncan Yoyo 
 wrote:


What it isn't correct that the district was CLAIMING that it was using 
the camera for? I think not.


Well, yeah, the school said that the only intended purpose for any remote 
viewing was to help them retrieve stolen or lost laptops, but that was not 
what they were doing.


 I was sort of waiting for this very thing to come up, here. I'm also 
on 2400 Fulton, the Jefferson Airplane list, and this case is there being 
much and hotly discussed. Almost immediately, after the thread was begun 
there, one listmember (from England, actually) suggested that some adult 
male school administrator or faculty member was deliberately and 
intentionally using the webcam so as to catch some teenage girl in this or 
that state of undress.


 Creep-O-Rama!

 The Orwellian implications of this case (I assume everyone here has 
read Eric Arthur Blair's "1984") have so infuriated one Fulton listmember 
(a Memphis attorney) that he is ready to put the entire school staff, with 
the possible exception of the ladies in the cafeteria, in front of a firing 
squad.


 "Ain't no fun in Room 101."

   Bob

I'm on the case, from outer space!

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Re: [CGUYS] Anybody else find all tom's post in gMail spam?

[mike]

nope...

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 2:22 PM, John Duncan Yoyo
wrote:

> I just found the last couple of days worth of Tom's posts in the gMail Spam
> folder.  Both the tjpa and the t.piowar email addresses were there.
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> I thought Tom was being unusually quiet.
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[CGUYS] Anybody else find all tom's post in gMail spam?

[John Duncan Yoyo]

I just found the last couple of days worth of Tom's posts in the gMail Spam
folder.  Both the tjpa and the t.piowar email addresses were there.

I thought Tom was being unusually quiet.

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Re: [CGUYS] Creepy or what?

[Robert Michael Abrams]

At 09:41 AM 2/21/2010, Tom Piwowar  wrote:


On Feb 21, 2010, at 1:18 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, yeah, the school said that the only intended purpose for any remote 
viewing was to help them retrieve stolen or lost laptops, but that was 
not what they were doing.


So if you get your computer stolen and attempt to recover it by using its 
camera and GPS you will be sued by the crook for invading their privacy?


 Suing is one thing. Winning the suit is often quite another. The 
crook in this paradigm, Your Tomness, has to establish that he/she has a 
reasonable, and actionable, expectation of privacy in the personal property 
(the laptop) of another, which property he/she stole. What reasonable and 
actionable expectation of privacy does a car thief have in a car he/she 
stole, where the stolen car has an OnStar-activated camera? [Also, and I 
know this isn't exactly on point, but, in the real world, it's just that 
much more difficult for your criminal defendant here to become a civil 
plaintiff while he/she has a long-term lease on the Honeymoon Suite at the 
Graybar Hotel].


 One other thing: Some States (Virginia, notably) do not have, or 
recognize, a common-law right of privacy. If (in such a State) there is no 
statute granting the thief a right of privacy in the property he/she stole, 
then the thief is entirely out of luck in that department.


 I guess that means there IS a God.

 Here's another article which describes the FBI's interest in this case:

http://www.pottstownmercury.com/articles/2010/02/20/news/srv007652029.txt

   Bob

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Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability

[mike]

It's funny how both sides end up talking about each other the same way, I
suppose ideologues are more similar even when they perceive themselves to be
on opposite sides.  As long as we have guys like Tom to continue the game
for the politicians, they'll love us.

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 11:13 AM, tjpa  wrote:

> On Feb 20, 2010, at 10:47 PM, b_s-wilk wrote:
>
>> So what are you talking about?
>>
>
> They favor fantasy over facts. I think you are wasting your time trying to
> deprogram them. They heads are filled with slogans that they cling to
> vigorously. If you point out how their fantasies brought the country to the
> brink of ruin they will insist that their freaky ideas were not followed
> forcefully enough.
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Re: [CGUYS] This is worth a look

[mike]

I'll take my sad sack DSL over that choice.

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 12:43 PM, phartz...@gmail.com
wrote:

> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Eric S. Sande  wrote:
>
> >
> http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Our-National-Broadband-Plan-Is-A-Bland-Boring-Mess-106979
>
>   So, what do we have here?  Yet more evidence that not only are our
> governmental agencies and agency heads only interested in their own
> political and/or financial agendas, but the industry is sticking to
> that same tired old course as well?  We seem doomed unless we can get
> a benevolent dictator.
>
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Re: [CGUYS] Creepy or what?

[mike]

This entire incident is not an accident.  It was thought out, planned and
executed from start to finish.  It is not possible someone by pure accident
connected to a students system and then decided on a whim to keep watching
and then report him for drugs (candy), call him into the office and try to
punish him.  I would not be surprised if child porn figured into this case
at some point.

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 12:54 PM, phartz...@gmail.com
wrote:

> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 2:27 PM, John Duncan Yoyo
>  wrote:
>
> > It was bloody stupid to do and they should feel the full force of the law
> > but the intent could have seemed justifiable if they were sold on this
> > system even if the result isn't.  It may be systemic if the video at <
> >
> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/digitalnation/learning/schools/how-google-saved-a-school.html
> >
> > was used as a model by other schools.
>
>   I see that Macintosh computers were the only brand involved in any
> of these instances, at least as far as any of these reports that have
> been discussed here.  Is Apple in any way involved in this?  By that I
> mean is Apple complicit in the installation of any code that is
> specifically designed to allow for these school systems to do this
> spying?  Are these computers being shipped from Apple with special
> code already installed that is not present in their laptops intended
> for normal retail sale?
>
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Re: [CGUYS] Creepy or what?

[phartz...@gmail.com]

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 2:27 PM, John Duncan Yoyo
 wrote:

> It was bloody stupid to do and they should feel the full force of the law
> but the intent could have seemed justifiable if they were sold on this
> system even if the result isn't.  It may be systemic if the video at <
> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/digitalnation/learning/schools/how-google-saved-a-school.html>
> was used as a model by other schools.

  I see that Macintosh computers were the only brand involved in any
of these instances, at least as far as any of these reports that have
been discussed here.  Is Apple in any way involved in this?  By that I
mean is Apple complicit in the installation of any code that is
specifically designed to allow for these school systems to do this
spying?  Are these computers being shipped from Apple with special
code already installed that is not present in their laptops intended
for normal retail sale?

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Re: [CGUYS] This is worth a look

[phartz...@gmail.com]

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Eric S. Sande  wrote:

> http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Our-National-Broadband-Plan-Is-A-Bland-Boring-Mess-106979

  So, what do we have here?  Yet more evidence that not only are our
governmental agencies and agency heads only interested in their own
political and/or financial agendas, but the industry is sticking to
that same tired old course as well?  We seem doomed unless we can get
a benevolent dictator.

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Re: [CGUYS] Creepy or what?

[John Duncan Yoyo]

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 10:33 AM, mike  wrote:

> To be blunt it doesn't matter what you think is going on, it matters what
> happened.  And that was spying on minors in their own homes.
>

It was bloody stupid to do and they should feel the full force of the law
but the intent could have seemed justifiable if they were sold on this
system even if the result isn't.  It may be systemic if the video at <
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/digitalnation/learning/schools/how-google-saved-a-school.html>
was used as a model by other schools.


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[CGUYS] This is worth a look

[Eric S. Sande]

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Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability

[Fred Holmes]

At 10:25 PM 2/20/2010, Chris Dunford wrote:
>They will *try* to sell you fiber optic phone service. You don't have to take 
>it. I have FiOS broadband (which I love) and copper phone service.

Where are you located?  Who is your POTS supplier?  I'm in Annandale, VA, and 
Verizon is my POTS supplier.  Cox cable came to my 1950's subdivision two miles 
from Annandale center in the early 1980's.  Verizon has just in the last few 
months put FIOS in the neighborhood -- they started last fall and are 
presumably finished, but may just have suspended fiber installation operations 
for the winter.  It's a nominal middle class suburban Washington neighborhood.  
Full of 50 x 25 ft ranch houses with full basements that have been built out 
over the years.  Some of the houses are smaller, 40 x 25 ft or even 30 x 25 ft, 
but most are 50 ft wide.

Cox Cable now gives me 20 mbit/sec service, which is mostly server limited, not 
local network limited.  What do you get from FiOS, where?

I think the real difference is the Cox vs. Verizon corporate culture, not 
whether the medium is coax or FiOS.  I suspect that coax is now obsolete, 
except perhaps for the house drop, and all new installations will use glass 
fiber, not coax.  I suspect that some parts of Cox Communications' local 
network is already fiber.

Cox doesn't block any service that I actually use, and I haven't tried to find 
out what the total blocking list is.  Will Verizon block my Skype, Magic Jack, 
or other independent VOIP that I install?  Other bandwidth-limiting practice?

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Re: [CGUYS] Creepy or what?

[John Settle]

On 2/21/2010 12:41 PM, tjpa wrote:

On Feb 21, 2010, at 1:18 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:

Well, yeah, the school said that the only intended purpose for any
remote viewing was to help them retrieve stolen or lost laptops, but
that was not what they were doing.


So if you get your computer stolen and attempt to recover it by using 
its camera and GPS you will be sued by the crook for invading their 
privacy?



Only if you are a governmental entity without a warrant.



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Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability

[tjpa]

On Feb 20, 2010, at 10:47 PM, b_s-wilk wrote:

So what are you talking about?


They favor fantasy over facts. I think you are wasting your time  
trying to deprogram them. They heads are filled with slogans that they  
cling to vigorously. If you point out how their fantasies brought the  
country to the brink of ruin they will insist that their freaky ideas  
were not followed forcefully enough.



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Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability

[Eric S. Sande]

The Interstate Highway System is pegged at $425 billion in 2006  
dollars. So you are saying the unrolling fiber costs almost as much as  
building a 6 lane national highway system?


Basically yes.  If you want a chicken in every pot.  Every local switch
and tandem switch has to be equipped.  Every mile has to be rebuilt.

If you want to touch every hutch and demesne in the land.

It might be twice my estimate.

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Re: [CGUYS] Password Keeper == Login King -- thoughts?

[tjpa]

On Feb 20, 2010, at 8:44 PM, Tony B wrote:

I have it set so our staff (myself
included) has to change passwords every few months. And I always use  
strong
passwords. I can't even remember my gmail password, and I routinely  
need

that when logging in from my laptop from the road.


This is a fine example of security theatre. Study after study shows  
that this practice makes systems less secure, yet bloviated IT  
managers continue to insist on it. I think the attraction is the kick  
they get out of making people do useless and annoying things.



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Re: [CGUYS] Password Keeper == Login King -- thoughts?

[tjpa]

On Feb 20, 2010, at 10:28 PM, Fred Holmes wrote:
One bank uses a pictogram -- picture.  After entering only your  
username, a different/succeeding page loads that shows a picture and  
queries your password. This picture is individual for each  
customer.  You get to pick it out of a huge library of pictures when  
you sign up for an on-line banking account.  If the proper picture  
doesn't show, then the user concludes that the site has been  
hijacked and the page is invalid.  Therefore the user does not enter  
his password and the "thief" page doesn't capture his password.


If your bank does not do something like this to assure you that you  
that you are indeed connected to the bank, you should find a different  
bank. This is a simple and highly effective way to protect customers.  
If they can't manage something this simple, who knows what else they  
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Re: [CGUYS] Creepy or what?

[tjpa]

On Feb 21, 2010, at 1:18 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:

Well, yeah, the school said that the only intended purpose for any
remote viewing was to help them retrieve stolen or lost laptops, but
that was not what they were doing.


So if you get your computer stolen and attempt to recover it by using  
its camera and GPS you will be sued by the crook for invading their  
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Re: [CGUYS] Creepy or what?

[mike]

To be blunt it doesn't matter what you think is going on, it matters what
happened.  And that was spying on minors in their own homes.

On Feb 21, 2010 8:27 AM, "John Duncan Yoyo" 
wrote:

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 1:18 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 9:21 PM, John Duncan Yoyo > <
johnduncany...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > What ...
> Yep, but I thought I'd give them the benefit of the doubt.  Besides it is
hard to believe that is what they were doing.

The video of the teacher using the camera in another school to monitor
students from the techdirt link is more what I think is going on.

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Re: [CGUYS] win7 to "phone home" - comments?

[John Duncan Yoyo]

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:34 AM, Fred Holmes  wrote:

> Maybe that was the purpose of the patch?
>
> Nope,  just a side effect.

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Re: [CGUYS] Creepy or what?

[John Duncan Yoyo]

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 1:18 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 9:21 PM, John Duncan Yoyo
>  wrote:
>
> > What it isn't correct that the district was CLAIMING that it was using
> the
> > camera for?  I think not.
>
>   Well, yeah, the school said that the only intended purpose for any
> remote viewing was to help them retrieve stolen or lost laptops, but
> that was not what they were doing.
>
> Yep, but I thought I'd give them the benefit of the doubt.  Besides it is
hard to believe that is what they were doing.

The video of the teacher using the camera in another school to monitor
students from the techdirt link is more what I think is going on.

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Re: [CGUYS] win7 to "phone home" - comments?

[Fred Holmes]

Maybe that was the purpose of the patch?

Fred Holmes

At 12:53 AM 2/21/2010, John Duncan Yoyo wrote:
>> Word is that this patch may have unmasked a rootkit that casued the BSOD.
>http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2450052/posts
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