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[Jim McKane]

Old Family Photographs - *added Mary (nee McConnell) Newman & family*


Jim McKane
South Bruce Peninsula, Ontario
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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Leckpatrick Parish Graveyards, Co. Tyrone

[Peter Kincaid]

Thank you very much Len for the lookups.  Hard bunch to crack.  One
actually went to Australia and great grandsons were living in Melbourne in
the 1950s.

William Kincaid Sr. died in Silverhill in 1864.  Who knows where he is
buried then.  I have not yet located his son William, but he probably went
to Manitoba, Canada where his wife, Nancy McFarlane, had family.

I have no idea what became of John Kincaid and Sarah Kincaid who were in
Ballee in the Griffiths Valuation.

There seems to have been two James Kincaids.  The first James was the
father of David Kincaid (born c1829 Dec 1904) of Holyhill who married Ann
Jane Sharkey (1834-Oct 1996) and went to Geelong, Victoria, Australia.
They are buried in Geelong Western Public cemetery.  They had Ann Jane (m.
Frank Richard Smith), Mary Rebecca (m. Richard Walter Smith), John James
Kincaid (1862 - 22 Mar 1889), and David Kincaid.  The latter married
Frances Caroline Logan and later Annie Elisa Batson.  By his first wife he
had Frances Adeline Kincaid who died an infant.  By his second wife he had
William Lambert Kincaid, Annie Louise Kincaid (m. Albert Stanley
Northfield), and Ethelwyn Frances Kincaid (m. Edward Martin Walsh).
William Lambert Kincaid married Constance Marjory Glenister and moved to
Melboune, Australia.  He died in 1951 leaving sons John Holman Kincaid and
William Kincaid.  I lose track of the sons.  Len, since you are also in
Melbourne, if you know anything of the sons John Holman Kincaid and William
Kincaid, please let me know.

The other James Kincaid (c1817-1880) was in Ballee when he married Margaret
Caton on 1857.  She died in 1874 and he was in Keenaghan when he remarried
to Susan (Black) Nixon later that year.  They had Margaret (died young) and
James (born in 1878).  James the father died in 1880 and his widow and son
lived in Holyhill where they are recorded in the 1901 census.  However,
James had married Mary Kee in 1899 and they had Mary Jane, James Alexander
(died an infant), Maggie, and John Augustine/Gustavus, James Thomas, Sarah
Kathleen, Annie Evisena, Fanny Edith, and Anne Martha Elizabeth Kinkaid.
The wife and children appear in Holyhill in the household of Alexander Kee
in the 1911 census while James is recorded with his mother Susan in
Dergalt, Camus Parish in the same census.  While it appears James Jr. and
Mary Jane Kee separated, they did not as the last 4 are born in Holyhill
after 1911.

Thomas Kincaid of Holyhill (in Griffiths) was married to a Mary Ann who
died at Holyhill on 7 May 1866.  It looks like they had a daughter Lucinda
who married John Stevenson on 18 October 1866.

Thanks again Len for your help!

Peter


On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 5:42 AM, Len Swindley 
wrote:

> Hello Peter,
>
>
>
> Graveyards checked are Leckpatrick Old Burial Ground (map and
> inscriptions), Patrick Street (Old Camus parish) Graveyard, Strabane
> (inscriptions and burial register), Grange Old Burial Ground, Donagheady
> Parish (inscriptions and map), Old Donagheady Graveyard, Benowen, Donemana
> (inscriptions) and Old Glendermot Graveyard, Glendermot, Co. Londonderry
> (inscriptions) and there is not a single reference to any Kinkaids (or
> variants).
>
>
>
> Referring to the 1863 list of stipend payers for Leckpatrick Presbyterian
> congregation you mention; I looked up my copy (from the Presbyterian
> Historical Society, Belfast) and note that neither William nor James
> Kincaid actually contributed towards the stipend of the minister, Rev.
> Moses Chambers (their names appear only, as opposed to others and their
> contribution)  Perhaps they had left the parish? Neither name is recorded
> in the list of stipend payers for 1866.
>
>
>
> My apologies for the delay in responding, but work commitments must take
> priority and transcribing records for CTI is ongoing.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail  for
> Windows 10
>
>
> --
> *From:* Peter Kincaid 
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 4, 2018 11:41:44 PM
> *To:* Len Swindley
> *Cc:* James McKane; CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com
> *Subject:* Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Leckpatrick Parish Graveyards, Co.
> Tyrone
>
> Forgive me, but I had asked Len twice if he could check the same sources
> (which I do not have access to) for the Kincaids of Leckpatrick and I am
> not sure if a problem occurred with a reply.  On Feb 27 he asked what
> period these Kincaids lived and I responded with details of them living in
> the mid to latter 1800s.  I then received a message which was simply a
> forwarding of his 1st question.  Did part of a message/response get lost?
>
> Best wishes!
>
> Peter
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 8:52 AM, Len Swindley 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Julie,
>>
>>
>>
>> There are four graveyards within Leckpatrick parish, Strabane, Co.
>> Tyrone; the graveyard attached to St. Patrick’s Parish Church (Church of
>> 

[CoTyroneMailingList] CoTyroneIreland.com - New Content - Leckpatrick Presbyterian Church, Artigarvan, Strabane; List of Stipend Payers 1863

[Jim McKane]

Leckpatrick Presbyterian Church, Artigarvan, Strabane; List of Stipend
Payers 1863 

Thanks again to Len Swindley for another great addition to CTI!

Jim McKane
South Bruce Peninsula, Ontario
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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Leckpatrick Parish Graveyards, Co. Tyrone

[Len Swindley]

Hello Peter,

Graveyards checked are Leckpatrick Old Burial Ground (map and inscriptions), 
Patrick Street (Old Camus parish) Graveyard, Strabane (inscriptions and burial 
register), Grange Old Burial Ground, Donagheady Parish (inscriptions and map), 
Old Donagheady Graveyard, Benowen, Donemana (inscriptions) and Old Glendermot 
Graveyard, Glendermot, Co. Londonderry (inscriptions) and there is not a single 
reference to any Kinkaids (or variants).

Referring to the 1863 list of stipend payers for Leckpatrick Presbyterian 
congregation you mention; I looked up my copy (from the Presbyterian Historical 
Society, Belfast) and note that neither William nor James Kincaid actually 
contributed towards the stipend of the minister, Rev. Moses Chambers (their 
names appear only, as opposed to others and their contribution)  Perhaps they 
had left the parish? Neither name is recorded in the list of stipend payers for 
1866.

My apologies for the delay in responding, but work commitments must take 
priority and transcribing records for CTI is ongoing.

Regards,
Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia

Sent from Mail for Windows 10


From: Peter Kincaid 
Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 11:41:44 PM
To: Len Swindley
Cc: James McKane; CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com
Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Leckpatrick Parish Graveyards, Co. Tyrone

Forgive me, but I had asked Len twice if he could check the same sources (which 
I do not have access to) for the Kincaids of Leckpatrick and I am not sure if a 
problem occurred with a reply.  On Feb 27 he asked what period these Kincaids 
lived and I responded with details of them living in the mid to latter 1800s.  
I then received a message which was simply a forwarding of his 1st question.  
Did part of a message/response get lost?

Best wishes!

Peter


On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 8:52 AM, Len Swindley 
> wrote:
Hello Julie,

There are four graveyards within Leckpatrick parish, Strabane, Co. Tyrone; the 
graveyard attached to St. Patrick’s Parish Church (Church of Ireland) which is 
relatively modern, the graveyard attached to Leckpatrick Presbyterian Church, 
Artigarvan, also relatively modern, the RC graveyard belonging to St. Mary’s 
Chapel at Cloghcor and the ancient parish graveyard (Leckpatrick Old Burial 
Ground – now closed) on Victoria Road (corner Leckpatrick and Ballyheather 
Roads). This old place of rest contains many graves, but fewer headstones: the 
earliest recorded is dated 1617.

Referring to the Register of Gravestone Inscriptions in Leckpatrick Old Burial 
Ground, Artigarvan, Strabane – David & Sheelagh Todd (1991) there are no 
Nickle/ Nicholl headstones. So then went to a register compiled from a 
disintegrating map of the graveyard (1877) and again was unable to locate a 
burial place of the Nickles. There is a Henry Nichol recorded on the headstone 
of the Gordon family of Strabane referring to him as “a faithful friend”. In 
1989 the Strabane District Council erected a plaque in memory of the famed 
“Memory Man” Bobby Nicholl (1907-1985). Have also referred to a file of the 451 
legible headstone contained within the old Camus parish Graveyard in Patrick 
Street, Strabane, but again, there is nothing relevant to your forebears.

In the old days, folk had little money to spare for a headstone; however, all 
knew the location of the family burial place! My forebear, Joseph Arbuckle of 
Woodend died 1781 and is buried in Leckpatrick Old Burial Ground (with 
headstone). A relation accompanied me to the grave and mentioned that the two 
unmarked spaces on either side belonged to the (related) Houston family of 
Woodend although this is not recorded on the old map.

It is most likely that the Nickles of Woodend and elsewhere in the parish had a 
burial place in Old Leckpatrick, but it seems almost impossible to locate it. I 
guess you have found my file of Woodend rentals, tithe applotment book and 
Griffith Valuation (1858) on CTI? 
http://www.cotyroneireland.com/rental/woodend.html

Hope this all helps?

Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia

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From: James McKane
Sent: Tuesday, 27 February 2018 10:26 PM
To: Julie Louden
Subject: Re: CTI Contact Page Query

Sorry I am not great on Ireland's geography. I've bcc'd a guy who may be able 
to help?  Otherwise, please post this query to our Mailing List as someone 
there could no doubt help.

Jim

Jim McKane
South Bruce Peninsula, Ontario

On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 12:39 AM, Julie Louden 
> wrote:
Hello

I found your web pages whilst looking into my family history in the area. My gg 
grandfather was Joseph Nickle from Woodend. I'm trying to locate his grave and 
have already been to the