RE: [ITP] email-2.3.0

2004-10-18 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
[snip]
  Also, given that
  
 http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/nail/nail/README?rev=HEADview=m
  arkup
  states:
  
  On the other hand, I strongly discourage from porting nail 
 to Windows 
  and environments that make Windows look Unix-like; I won't 
 accept any 
  patches or suggestions that go in this direction. There are 
 two major 
  reasons for this: First, any port makes maintaining harder; 
 there are 
  always more work-arounds in the source, and introducing new 
 features 
  involves the question whether they will work an all 
 supported platforms.
  The more different a platform behaves from, let's say, the 
 common Unix 
  way, the more hacks have to be made, costing human time that could 
  otherwise have been used to enhance the software for Unix platforms.
  Windows is just not worth this, and here we are at the second point:
  Porting software to Windows encourages people to use -- that is: to 
  buy
  -- Windows. It supports a company that is known to threaten Open 
  Source software like nail. In short, porting nail (or similar free 
  software) to Windows has an ill effect on that software. 
 Don't do it.
 
 My general response to arguments like that is:  fuck 'em.  
 I'll port it just to be a thorn in the guys side.
 
 Harold

LOL!

-- 
Gary R. Van Sickle
 



[ITP] nail-11.11

2004-10-18 Thread Harold L Hunt II
nail, an enhanced mailx command
http://nail.sourceforge.net/
sdesc: nail
category: Mail
requires: cygwin
ldesc: An enhanced mailx command
http://www.cse.msu.edu/~huntharo/cygwin/release/nail/setup.hint
http://www.cse.msu.edu/~huntharo/cygwin/release/nail/nail-11.11-1.tar.bz2
http://www.cse.msu.edu/~huntharo/cygwin/release/nail/nail-11.11-1-src.tar.bz2
Caveat: I don't know how to use nail.  I need someone that has 
experience with nail to setup an account and run it.  If all is well 
then the package is probably good to go.

Harold


Re: Please upload: openldap-2.2.17-2/libopenldap2_2_7-2.2.17-2/openldap-devel-2.2.17-2

2004-10-18 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Oct 15 13:52, Dr. Volker Zell wrote:
 cd openldap
 wget http://cygwin.dev.wapme.net/packages/vzell/cygwin/release/openldap/setup.hint
 wget 
 http://cygwin.dev.wapme.net/packages/vzell/cygwin/release/openldap/openldap-2.2.17-2.tar.bz2
 wget 
 http://cygwin.dev.wapme.net/packages/vzell/cygwin/release/openldap/openldap-2.2.17-2-src.tar.bz2
 
 cd openldap-devel
 wget 
 http://cygwin.dev.wapme.net/packages/vzell/cygwin/release/openldap/openldap-devel/setup.hint
 wget 
 http://cygwin.dev.wapme.net/packages/vzell/cygwin/release/openldap/openldap-devel/openldap-devel-2.2.17-2.tar.bz2
 
 cd ../libopenldap2_2_7
 wget 
 http://cygwin.dev.wapme.net/packages/vzell/cygwin/release/openldap/libopenldap2_2_7/setup.hint
 wget 
 http://cygwin.dev.wapme.net/packages/vzell/cygwin/release/openldap/libopenldap2_2_7/libopenldap2_2_7-2.2.17-2.tar.bz2

Uploaded.  Any reason to keep 2.2.15-2 and libopenldap2?

Corinna

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Re: [ITP] email-2.3.0

2004-10-18 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004, Harold L Hunt II wrote:

 Ross Smith II wrote:

 [snip]

  Also, given that
  http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/nail/nail/README?rev=HEADview=markup
  states:
 
  On the other hand, I strongly discourage from porting nail to Windows
  and environments that make Windows look Unix-like; I won't accept any
  patches or suggestions that go in this direction. There are two major
  reasons for this: First, any port makes maintaining harder; there are
  always more work-arounds in the source, and introducing new features
  involves the question whether they will work an all supported platforms.
  The more different a platform behaves from, let's say, the common Unix
  way, the more hacks have to be made, costing human time that could
  otherwise have been used to enhance the software for Unix platforms.
  Windows is just not worth this, and here we are at the second point:
  Porting software to Windows encourages people to use -- that is: to buy
  -- Windows. It supports a company that is known to threaten Open Source
  software like nail. In short, porting nail (or similar free software)
  to Windows has an ill effect on that software. Don't do it.

 My general response to arguments like that is:  fuck 'em.  I'll port it just
 to be a thorn in the guys side.

 Harold

Good one, Harold.

We've been having this exact discussion every year or so...  Now that we
have managed mounts, however, this threat is actually valid.

Normally, I'd be against a package that *requires* managed mounts to
build, but in this particular case I'll make an exception.  Not that this
opinion counts one way or another -- it's up to CGF and Corinna anyway...
Igor
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Re: [ITP] nail-11.11

2004-10-18 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004, Harold L Hunt II wrote:

 nail, an enhanced mailx command
 http://nail.sourceforge.net/
 [snip]

Quoting nail.README:

   Had to create a modified source package that didn't have a file named
   aux.c (renamed to aaux.c), else the mkpatch step would fail (as would
   unpacking in general, since files named aux* are not compatible with
   Windows).

... or, that's another way to do it -- just rip it up.  Yay, Harold!

+1, BTW (and it's not an auto-reply :-) ).
Igor
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Re: [ITP] email-2.3.0

2004-10-18 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sun, Oct 17, 2004 at 10:45:10PM -0800, Ross Smith II wrote:
Christopher Faylor wrote:


 I'm sorry but, here again, we're talking about porting an AFAICT,
 non-standard package to cygwin when we're missing something as basic as
 mailx (or nail, or whatever).

Given that argument, how would a new program ever become standard?

By existing in a linux distribution.  Seems pretty obvious.

 Isn't there anyone out there who can perform the dead-simple act of
packaging
 up nail for this purprose?

It can't be that simple to port, or someone would have already done it.
Christ, I can't even untar nail to my Cygwin box as it contains a file named
aux.c.

Given that attitude, I think I will just give up working on Cygwin entirely.
It's just too hard.

cgf


Re: nail-11.11

2004-10-18 Thread Harold Leatherman Hunt II
Igor Pechtchanski writes: 

On Mon, 18 Oct 2004, Harold L Hunt II wrote: 

nail, an enhanced mailx command
http://nail.sourceforge.net/
[snip]
Quoting nail.README: 

   Had to create a modified source package that didn't have a file named
   aux.c (renamed to aaux.c), else the mkpatch step would fail (as would
   unpacking in general, since files named aux* are not compatible with
   Windows). 

... or, that's another way to do it -- just rip it up.  Yay, Harold! 

+1, BTW (and it's not an auto-reply :-) ).
Slash and burn baby, slash and burn!  ;) 

Could somebody actually run nail and tell me if it works?  I just need a 
looks like it works.  If it doesn't work, don't think you need to send me 
a real descriptive report, just say tried it with IMAP/POP3/SMTP/etc., 
didn't work as expected and I'll take it from there. 

Thanks in advance, 

Harold