Orca/espeakup loud audio on login screen and..
Hi, Im trying to make my sons computer run Linux Debian, but feel like im hitting an issue with Orca/espeakup. I have installed Debian 12.7 with Cinnamon as desktop, why lightdm is the window manager. When starting the computer, it comes to the login window and the audio is extremely loud, untill logged in, then the audio level is okay / low. What could be the reason that the login screen has one level of audio, but when logged in, its another audio level? I have also now, tried to disable the screen reader service, but it still auto starts, i ran this command: sudo systemtl disable espeakup.service (Im using espeakup in Orca) After the login, the screen reader is also speaking, but there is no service on it? Best kind regards Kenneth
Re: Edit what ctrl alt del does
Thanks for your input John, using the run program + systemctl poweroff / reboot works well as an alternative :-) Best kind regards Kenneth Den 20.09.2024 kl. 19.46 skrev john doe: - Original Message - From: "Kenneth Schack Banner" To: "K0LNY ??" ; Sent: Friday, September 20, 2024 11:51 AM Subject: Re: Edit what ctrl alt del does Hi Glenn, Thanks for your input, i tried to launch the run window and typed both sudo poweroff and sudo reboot but nothing happens.. I dont know if that is an issue as well? You should try "systemctl poweroff|reboot" without "sudo". -- John Doe
Re: Edit what ctrl alt del does
Yes, that is what i have been forced to used, and which i am a bit tired of... :-) Best kind regards Kenneth Den 20.09.2024 kl. 18.53 skrev K0LNY ??: You can also do that in a terminal. Glenn - Original Message - From: "Kenneth Schack Banner" To: "K0LNY ??" ; Sent: Friday, September 20, 2024 11:51 AM Subject: Re: Edit what ctrl alt del does Hi Glenn, Thanks for your input, i tried to launch the run window and typed both sudo poweroff and sudo reboot but nothing happens.. I dont know if that is an issue as well? Best kind regards Kenneth Den 20.09.2024 kl. 18.38 skrev K0LNY ??: Hi Kenneth, In the mate desktop, I can bring up the system menu, and up arrow for options. Personally, I find it easier to bring up the run window, and enter: sudo reboot HTH. Glenn - Original Message - From: "Kenneth Schack Banner" To: Sent: Friday, September 20, 2024 11:34 AM Subject: Edit what ctrl alt del does I have installed Debian 12.7 with Cinnamon desktop enovirement, and am trying to find out how to edit the following hotkeys: ctrl + alt + alt It gives me options to switch user or logout, but what i need it to offer is shutdown and reboot Unless theres another hotkey for a shutdown/reboot window? Best kind regards Kenneth
Re: Edit what ctrl alt del does
Hi Glenn, Thanks for your input, i tried to launch the run window and typed both sudo poweroff and sudo reboot but nothing happens.. I dont know if that is an issue as well? Best kind regards Kenneth Den 20.09.2024 kl. 18.38 skrev K0LNY ??: Hi Kenneth, In the mate desktop, I can bring up the system menu, and up arrow for options. Personally, I find it easier to bring up the run window, and enter: sudo reboot HTH. Glenn - Original Message - From: "Kenneth Schack Banner" To: Sent: Friday, September 20, 2024 11:34 AM Subject: Edit what ctrl alt del does I have installed Debian 12.7 with Cinnamon desktop enovirement, and am trying to find out how to edit the following hotkeys: ctrl + alt + alt It gives me options to switch user or logout, but what i need it to offer is shutdown and reboot Unless theres another hotkey for a shutdown/reboot window? Best kind regards Kenneth
Edit what ctrl alt del does
I have installed Debian 12.7 with Cinnamon desktop enovirement, and am trying to find out how to edit the following hotkeys: ctrl + alt + alt It gives me options to switch user or logout, but what i need it to offer is shutdown and reboot Unless theres another hotkey for a shutdown/reboot window? Best kind regards Kenneth
High audio level on login screen
Hi, Im having troubles with a computer running Debian 12.7 with Cinnamon as Desktop. When i start the computer, the audio level is very high when Orca starts to speak, but when im logged in, the audio level goes down. Am i facing an error, or is there a setting for audio level on login screen? Best kind regards Kenneth
Accessibility on the diffrent desktop enoviremtns
Hi, I've been installing most desktop enovirements in Debian 12.6 today, not at the same time, but a clean install on each. I did only scratch the top, so what i had focus on was: Login screen, if i had to enter username and password or not. On GNOME and KDE i did not need to enter the username, but i did need to enter it on XFCE, CINNAMON, MATE, LXDE, LXTQ. And this is not much related to accessibility, but just a nice feature or not. But what i did encounter is the both KDE and LXQT login screen Orca was not able to read the login window - first when i got by the login screen, Orca did speech. Main menu (F1 + alt) or just (super key) where i did meet many diffrent difficulties in most: GNOME, CINNAMON, LXQT - In some it was the whole menu, others it could be a search box etc. - But i also wonder why not all just use the super key to launch the main menu? Speech in terminal, i did also test if Orca worked in the terminal, and encounted that it did not work in XFCE, KDE and LXQT Then i did try the system monitor and experienced difficulties or not working in all desktop enovirements. And the last thing i did test was the key combination of CTRL + ALT + DEL, to see if the shutdown window would appear, and experienced it not to work in Cinnamon, LXDE and in LXQT it did open the audio settings i belive - and also, in one, i belive was LXDE i did not have the option to shutdown or reboot the computer, but just to swtich user or log out. I wish, and hope that there are Debian developers that would look into these issues, so we can make Debian more accessible, i really enjoy the Debian distro for all the current accessibility functionalities :-D Best kinds regards Kenneth
Re: Unable to install Debian 12 in dark mode
Hi Samuel, Installation media: debian-12.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso I boot it up, when boot menu comes up, i selected dark mode (4. og 5. option) and then the graphical installer front end. Then i navigate around urisng the arrows, but when i get to where i select the desktop enovierment etc. i found it, i need to use the tabulator to get down to the confinue button. I just dont understand why it first then has to use tabulator key, when i untill then was able just to use the arrows. I didnt change colors during installation, i choose the dark mode at the boot menu. Best kind regards Kenneth Den 17.10.2023 kl. 23.15 skrev Samuel Thibault: Hello, Kenneth Schack Banner, le mar. 17 oct. 2023 21:45:17 +0200, a ecrit: I wanted to install Debian 12 on a Intel NUC Celeron N5105, but seems to have hit a wall during installation. When i get to the point where i can choose a desktop enoviremt, ssh server, internet service etc. i am not able to continue.. I dont know if its me, but i press down and to the sides, but i am not able to get focus on the "Continue" button.. Which installer frontend are you using? The textual? The graphical? Is there a keyboard shortcut to continue in the dark mode / high contrast graphical installer? Switching colors during installation is still in the TODO list, contribution is welcome. Samuel
Unable to install Debian 12 in dark mode
Hi, I wanted to install Debian 12 on a Intel NUC Celeron N5105, but seems to have hit a wall during installation. When i get to the point where i can choose a desktop enoviremt, ssh server, internet service etc. i am not able to continue.. I dont know if its me, but i press down and to the sides, but i am not able to get focus on the "Continue" button.. Is there a keyboard shortcut to continue in the dark mode / high contrast graphical installer? Best kind regards Kenneth
Issue with passwords
Hi, i just installed Debian 12 rc1 using the netinstaller and noticed that if i connect to a Wi-Fi, when i am asked to enter the password for the Wi-Fi network the enteret password is being read by the screen reader, but when i have to enter a password for root or when i want to add a passord for my user, the screen reader is not able to read up the enterred password and this is very annoying. - I have installed Debian both with headset and using speakers to see if the screen reader would speak the pssword, but it dosent. Could this be marked as a bug? Best kind regards Kenneth
Debian 11.1.0 installation and first boot bug
Hi, I just installed Debian 11.1.0 yesterday wish screen reader, but with a few issues. 1. When i shall select a language the first key i press is not spoken, but if i delete it and try again its spoken, the second key i press will also be spoken. 2. The first boot after installation there was no screen reader working, first when i rebooted the system something happend and the screen reader worked. Best kind regards Kenneth
Re: Debian 11 - high contrast theme bug
Hi Samuel, Very much thank you :-) Best kind regards Kenneth Den 22.08.2021 kl. 21.49 skrev Samuel Thibault: Hello, Kenneth Schack Banner, le sam. 21 août 2021 09:17:08 +0200, a ecrit: I just install Debian 11 using the netinstaller (unofficial). I changed the theme from high contract, invert to high contrast. When i enable negative colors (super + n/m) the top menu is not affected. Indeed, that's a bug in compiz itself, I have reported it upstream: https://gitlab.com/compiz/compiz-plugins-main/-/issues/51 Samuel
Debian 11 - high contrast theme bug
Hi, I just install Debian 11 using the netinstaller (unofficial). I changed the theme from high contract, invert to high contrast. When i enable negative colors (super + n/m) the top menu is not affected. Best kind regards Kenneth
Re: Debian Installer Bullseye RC 3 release
Hi, I just installed it and i have 4 bugs. The torrent mirror seems to have a bug, i was not able to download the unofficial release using a bittorrent clinet, but i was able to download it with http/ftp Under the installation I used high contrast mode and am wondering if its possible to use "automatically login" due to my next bug? After the installation and a reboot i meet a login window, where im not able to use the magnifier (super + mouse wheel) and either invert colors (super + m/n) The other bug i experienced is if i use F2 + alt (run program) And i type terminal and hit enter i get an error, there is 1 choice "mate-terminal". So i tried just to type fire and it found firefox and i was able to launch it. In high contrast there is maby more icons there is not in high contast, one i found was Firefox. Best regards Kenneth Den 02.08.2021 kl. 15.10 skrev Samuel Thibault: Hello, Cyril Brulebois, le lun. 02 août 2021 11:59:51 +0200, a ecrit: The Debian Installer team[1] is pleased to announce the third release candidate of the installer for Debian 11 "Bullseye". Now is the last opportunity to make some tests before the release which is planned to happen around 14-15th August. http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/bullseye_di_rc3/amd64/iso-cd/debian-bullseye-DI-rc3-amd64-netinst.iso Samuel
Re: Issue with sound card
Hi Samuel, Is that todo list public and or related to accesibility or general? Best regards Kenneth Den 18/10/2019 kl. 19.32 skrev Samuel Thibault: Kenneth Schack Banner, le ven. 18 oct. 2019 19:28:46 +0200, a ecrit: Thanks for letting know! Can i request such a feature somewhere? It is already in the TODO list, it's now a matter of people finding time to implement it. Samuel -- Venlig hilsen, Kenneth Schack Banner
Re: Issue with sound card
Hi Samuel, Thanks for letting know! Can i request such a feature somewhere? It's maby just me, but during the installation im asked if im using a proxy, if i should enter some details. (Im not so i just press enter, but after that the computer is silent for some time and first when its done 41% it lets me know its working.. Best regards Kenneth Den 18/10/2019 kl. 19.21 skrev Samuel Thibault: Kenneth Schack Banner, le ven. 18 oct. 2019 19:11:28 +0200, a ecrit: Is it possible to use speech in the dark mode installation? I really like the dark mode due to its graphical and id prefer that over text (DOS) mode.. This is not supported. This would mean embedded a graphical screen reader in the installer, and that work has not been done yet. Samuel -- Venlig hilsen, Kenneth Schack Banner
Re: Issue with sound card
Hi Samuel, Thanks! It solved the issue! Is it possible to use speech in the dark mode installation? I really like the dark mode due to its graphical and id prefer that over text (DOS) mode.. I know if i press d i get dark mode and s i get speech, but can i do both someway? Best regards Kenneth Den 18/10/2019 kl. 18.03 skrev Samuel Thibault: Hello, Kenneth Schack Banner, le ven. 18 oct. 2019 14:06:46 +0200, a ecrit: Im trying to install Debian 10 buster (firmware-10.0.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso). Please use version 10.1.0. There was an issue in the Linux HDA driver in version 10.0.0. Samuel -- Venlig hilsen, Kenneth Schack Banner
Issue with sound card
Hi, Im trying to install Debian 10 buster (firmware-10.0.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso). Im pretty sure earlier release (latest of version 9) worked fine, with speech, but this version cannot see my sound card. The laptop is an Dell Inspiron 3551 Also im curious. Can i use all desktop enovirements or is some better supported then others in Debian with speech? Can i use some of them with keyboard only and can someone provide me a link to a list of keyboard shortcuts? -- Venlig hilsen, Kenneth Schack Banner
Re: Cant use accessibility features of compizconfig-settings-manager
Hi Alex Thanks for your fast reply. In Ubuntu 18.04 its Gnome, but i got issues in all distros ive tried (Based on Debian). I dont know how to do that, and think its a lot of effort for visually impared users.. Ive bumped into a problem, i tried to search for how to install debian for blind users and found out in the boot menu of debian i should click s and enter to start a console based installation with speech (Very nice!) But at a time in the installation, somewhat around the name of the computer the speech dies out.. (Maby after selecting wifi network). im using the +non-free debian edition to ensure compatibility on my computer. I have bit sight so it helps and the console (black background and white text is very helpful!). Im trying to get this up and running and will do more testing. Den 19-06-2018 kl. 09:32 skrev Alex ARNAUD: Hello Kenneth, My responses below. Le 18/06/2018 à 21:40, Kenneth Schack Banner a écrit : Im a visually impared Linux user, im trying to switch to Debian. Currently im running Ubuntu 16.04 and wanted to upgrade to 18.04, but for some reason i cant use zoom or negative colors (compizconfigsettings-manager compiz-plugins) Enchanced desktop zoom and negative). What is the desktop environment on Ubuntu 18.04 ? To be able to use Compiz easily, you should use the Mate desktop and configure it to use Compiz as window manager. Is it what you've done ? I set my own keyboard shortcuts to zoom in/out and turn invert of colors on/off. But its not working.. I've tried other distros with same fault (Based on Debian) so now i guess the problem is in Debian.. I don't think so as I'm also using Compiz with EZoom and negative right now to write this message on Debian 9 "Stretch" with the Mate desktop environment. Best regards, Alex. -- *Med venlig hilsen Kenneth Schack Banner*
Cant use accessibility features of compizconfig-settings-manager
Hi, Im a visually impared Linux user, im trying to switch to Debian. Currently im running Ubuntu 16.04 and wanted to upgrade to 18.04, but for some reason i cant use zoom or negative colors (compizconfigsettings-manager compiz-plugins) Enchanced desktop zoom and negative). I set my own keyboard shortcuts to zoom in/out and turn invert of colors on/off. But its not working.. I've tried other distros with same fault (Based on Debian) so now i guess the problem is in Debian.. -- *Med venlig hilsen Kenneth Schack Banner*
