Re: Official Woody CD's and the unofficial CD set

2002-04-30 Thread Attila Nagy

Hello,

 Will there be any direct relationship between the Official Woody 3.0
 CD's to be released, and the current unofficial CD set?  That is, for
 example, will the first official CD have the same packages as the first
 unofficial CD currently has; or will the packages be reshuffled and
 distributed differently across the new CD set?
The CDs has been made with the same tools. The only difference should be
the layout of the packages, caused by the size of each CD.
BTW, when the official images will be released the unofficial stuff will
go away (this is only for woody of course).

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Adrres im Brasil to obtain a distro on CD

2002-04-30 Thread ConsIG

Friends
I need the address of  Debian´s brasilian distro for obtain a C.D 
Thanks for all

[]s

Edgard


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Re: Adrres im Brasil to obtain a distro on CD

2002-04-30 Thread Richard Atterer

On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 08:23:54AM -0300, ConsIG wrote:
 I need the address of  Debian?s brasilian distro for obtain a C.D 
 Thanks for all

Please see http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/#br
Cheers,

  Richard

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Re: bootable CDs for mipsel [was: Reading fibmap]

2002-04-30 Thread Philip Hands

On Sun, 2002-04-28 at 17:26, Karsten Merker wrote:
 I have attached a /usr/share/debian-cd/tools/boot/woody/boot-mipsel
...
 Running this script requires objcopy (part of binutils), or, when
 not running on mipsel, mipsel-linux-objcopy (objcopy ist platform
 specific, so for creating a bootable mipsel CD on i386 you need
 installed mipsel-cross-binutils).

So, where can I find this (for i386)?  

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Re: bootable CDs for mipsel [was: Reading fibmap]

2002-04-30 Thread Florian Lohoff

On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 04:57:28PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
 On Sun, 2002-04-28 at 17:26, Karsten Merker wrote:
  I have attached a /usr/share/debian-cd/tools/boot/woody/boot-mipsel
 ...
  Running this script requires objcopy (part of binutils), or, when
  not running on mipsel, mipsel-linux-objcopy (objcopy ist platform
  specific, so for creating a bootable mipsel CD on i386 you need
  installed mipsel-cross-binutils).
 
 So, where can I find this (for i386)?  
 

There is no solution yet ... Ignore bootable cds for mips and mipsel 
for now - We have to do some work on the boot-loaders.

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Making sparc CDs bootable?

2002-04-30 Thread Philip Hands

Hi,

The script tools/boot/woody/boot-sparc in the debian-cd package is
currently broken.

These two lines are clearly wrong:

   cp ../../dists/$CODENAME/main/disks-$ARCH/current/sun4cdm/vmlinuz \
$inst/boot/sparc32.gz
   cp ../../dists/$CODENAME/main/disks-$ARCH/current/sun4u/vmlinuz \
$inst/boot/sparc64.gz

since the relative path points somewhere above the top of the temporary
build area ($TDIR) and even if it did manage to point at a copy of the
archive, there is no vmlinuz file in that bit of the sparc boot
floppies.

Anyone know how to fix this?

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Documentation provided in the Woody CDs (should be fixed)

2002-04-30 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña


I have just taken a look at the latest image (I think it is, but it was
downloaded from a European mirror) of woody CDs. More precisely:

$ ls
00-INDEXconstitution.txt   dedication-2.2.ja.txt
FAQ debian-keyring.tar.gz
dedication-2.2.pt_BR.txt
TRANS.TBL   debian-manifesto
dedication-2.2.sigs.tar.gz
bug-log-access.txt  dedication-2.2.cn.txt  dedication-2.2.txt
bug-log-mailserver.txt  dedication-2.2.de.txt  install
bug-mailserver-refcard.txt  dedication-2.2.es.txt  mailing-lists.txt
bug-maint-info.txt  dedication-2.2.fi.txt  package-developer
bug-maint-mailcontrol.txt   dedication-2.2.fr.txt  social-contract.txt
bug-reporting.txt   dedication-2.2.it.txt  source-unpack.txt

dedication-2.2 - should be removed?

FAQ - it is only provided in english however there are -es -fr -ja and
-ko debian-doc packages (the CVS seems not to have these but it does have
pt_BR and ru)

mailing-list.txt/social-contract.txt/constitution.txt (maybe all the .txt
files) - they are already translated in the WWW server since the contents
are the same as web pages there, translated content is not provided.

install - only links provided for english documentation, however the
install/doc directory contains other languages. Wouldn't it be better to
have doc/install a link to install/doc ?

Also please check Bug #58638. Even if the boot-floppies documentation is
translated to many languages I seem to find only a few (it,cs,da,ca).

IMHO this whole doc directory in the CDs (which is taken IIRC from the
ftp.debian.org site) should be completely reorganised. Proposed layout:

doc 
|- README (describes the layout and points to www.debian.org/doc/ for 
|  uptodate documentation and to www.debian.org/releases/stable)
|- README.XX (other languages describing the layout, similar content)
|- FAQ
|  |- en
|  |- es
|  |- it
|  |- ...
|- debian (current *.txt files, manifesto, constitution, information
|  specific to the debian project and distribution)
|  |- en
|  |- ... ( translations should be derived from WWW site)
|
|- package-developer
| (same layout as above it is currently a mess of formats and languages)
|
|- installation - ../install/doc

It is very important that the layout is language-independant
and that there is one directory for each language. All README files should
point to the relevant information and all README.XXX files should provide
relevant information on translated content and provide a pointer to the
original source (english) to those documents not translated.


Yes, we are *almost* finished releasing but this issue has not
been tackled in the previous release and a reorganization (even if done
manually for this release and automated for the rest) should not take more
than a few hours (give me access and I will do it myself if no one can).

Can this issue be tackled? (I expect many to say no :(

Regards (and sorry for the cross-post)

Javi

PS: Since I do not want to become everyone's pain-in-the-ass and I did not
send this in before (too busy at work) I will not (for the moment) file
any RC bug report :)



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Re: Making sparc CDs bootable?

2002-04-30 Thread Ben Collins

On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 05:36:43PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
 Hi,
 
 The script tools/boot/woody/boot-sparc in the debian-cd package is
 currently broken.
 
 These two lines are clearly wrong:
 
cp ../../dists/$CODENAME/main/disks-$ARCH/current/sun4cdm/vmlinuz \
 $inst/boot/sparc32.gz
cp ../../dists/$CODENAME/main/disks-$ARCH/current/sun4u/vmlinuz \
 $inst/boot/sparc64.gz
 
 since the relative path points somewhere above the top of the temporary
 build area ($TDIR) and even if it did manage to point at a copy of the
 archive, there is no vmlinuz file in that bit of the sparc boot
 floppies.

Yes, read the CVS log. The latest boot-floppies will have this file.

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Re: bootable CDs for mipsel [was: Reading fibmap]

2002-04-30 Thread Steve Langasek

On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 07:47:26PM +0200, Karsten Merker wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 04:57:28PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
  On Sun, 2002-04-28 at 17:26, Karsten Merker wrote:
   I have attached a /usr/share/debian-cd/tools/boot/woody/boot-mipsel
  ...
   Running this script requires objcopy (part of binutils), or, when
   not running on mipsel, mipsel-linux-objcopy (objcopy ist platform
   specific, so for creating a bootable mipsel CD on i386 you need
   installed mipsel-cross-binutils).
  
  So, where can I find this (for i386)?  

 mipsel-cross-binutils are not packaged for Debian,

Does the objcopy from the cross-platform binutils-multiarch package
not work?  I've used many of the other utilities from that package for
examining non-native binaries, but I've never used objcopy (native or
otherwise).

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Re: Documentation provided in the Woody CDs (should be fixed)

2002-04-30 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña

On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 09:13:39PM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
 
 Also please check Bug #58638. Even if the boot-floppies documentation is
 translated to many languages I seem to find only a few (it,cs,da,ca).
 
(I really *Hate* to reply to myself :(

Regarding this issue it seems that the translation teams where not
changing the boot-floppies/documentation/Makefile.docs which states which
languages are ready for release.
The spanish team will (hopefully) fix this soon.

Javi


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Re: Making sparc CDs bootable?

2002-04-30 Thread Philip Hands

On Tue, 2002-04-30 at 20:18, Ben Collins wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 05:36:43PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
  Hi,
  
  The script tools/boot/woody/boot-sparc in the debian-cd package is
  currently broken.
  
  These two lines are clearly wrong:
  
 cp ../../dists/$CODENAME/main/disks-$ARCH/current/sun4cdm/vmlinuz \
  $inst/boot/sparc32.gz
 cp ../../dists/$CODENAME/main/disks-$ARCH/current/sun4u/vmlinuz \
  $inst/boot/sparc64.gz
  
  since the relative path points somewhere above the top of the temporary
  build area ($TDIR) and even if it did manage to point at a copy of the
  archive, there is no vmlinuz file in that bit of the sparc boot
  floppies.
 
 Yes, read the CVS log. The latest boot-floppies will have this file.

Doh!  I did read the log, and then promptly forgot that little caveat.

Sorry about that.

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Re: bootable CDs for mipsel [was: Reading fibmap]

2002-04-30 Thread Raphael Hertzog

Le Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 11:48:55PM +0200, Karsten Merker écrivait:
  examining non-native binaries, but I've never used objcopy (native or
  otherwise).
 
 I have never used binutils-multiarch before, just installed the package
 for the first time. 
 A first quick test indicates that it works, I am currently rebuilding
 the woody CD images with objdump and objcopy from binutils multiarch
 to be really sure. I'll let you know when my box is ready...

That would be cool. There's another thing that does worry me. All cd
images should be buildable on i386 without root rights.

That is: if you can avoid having to use the loopback mount, it would be
great.

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Re: Documentation provided in the Woody CDs (should be fixed)

2002-04-30 Thread Raphael Hertzog

Le Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 09:13:39PM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña écrivait:
 IMHO this whole doc directory in the CDs (which is taken IIRC from the
 ftp.debian.org site) should be completely reorganised. Proposed layout:

As you mention, it's taken as is from the mirror, so check that with
the ftpmasters ...

   Can this issue be tackled? (I expect many to say no :(

It's  certainly quite late ...

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Re: New jigdo test on cdimage.d.o

2002-04-30 Thread Mattias Wadenstein

On 27 Apr 2002, Philip Hands wrote:

 Hi,

 I've mostly finished off my publish_cds script, and the results are
 available here:

   http://cdimage.debian.org/jigdo-area/

 The structure is:

 The *.jigdo, *.template and MD5SUMS for each architecture are here:

   jigdo-area/version/jigdo/arch/

And the final images should go into /debian-cd/version/arch/ ?

 and this is a hard-link farm built from the TDIR link farms for the
 architectures, and so should have every file required for the jigdo
 files:

   jigdo-area/version/snapshot/

 The jigdo files should have the right URLs in for the template, and the
 snapshot.

Well, at lest the snapshot seems to work.

 BTW does the fact that the template is pointing at cdimage in this file
 mean that the whole world are going to try to pick up the templates from
 there, rather than the mirror the grabbed the jigdo file from?

Well, for the mirror situation, it (jigdo-mirror) seems to find them
locally when you have mirrored it. Mirroring the snapshot is probably
harder though.

 Anyway, have a play and tell me what breaks. The alpha and sparc images
 are still not right, but I thought getting this out for testing was a
 higher priority.

Trying to build them now with (woody) jigdo-file and jigdo-mirror gives:
Found 1322 of the 1356 files required by the template
Copied input files to temporary file `image.tmp' - repeat command and
supply more files to continue
2002-05-01 04:10:19: 34 parts still missing from image
2002-05-01 04:10:19: Too many files missing in local mirror

On more than one image. With a higher $maxMissing (250) it hopefully will
build all of them.

(I'm running woody for this on the temporary server that we found just in
time for the May 1st release that didn't happen, and might be gone by the
time it eventually happens.)

And some times on this machine:

2002-05-01 04:28:18: Found 
`/export/ftp/jigdo-test/cdimage.debian.org/jigdo-area/3.0-pre2/jigdo/arm/woody-arm-3.jigdo'
2002-05-01 04:28:24:   Found `debian-30p2-arm-binary-3.iso', template 
`http://cdimage.debian.org/jigdo-area/3.0-pre2/jigdo/arm/woody-arm-3.template'
2002-05-01 04:28:24: Will try to create 
`/export/ftp/jigdo-test/debian-cd/arm/debian-30p2-arm-binary-3.iso'
2002-05-01 04:28:24: Found template 
`/export/ftp/jigdo-test/cdimage.debian.org/jigdo-area/3.0-pre2/jigdo/arm/woody-arm-3.template'
2002-05-01 04:29:49: 53 parts still missing from image
2002-05-01 04:30:54: Image checksum is correct, moving image into place
2002-05-01 04:30:54: Found 
`/export/ftp/jigdo-test/cdimage.debian.org/jigdo-area/3.0-pre2/jigdo/arm/woody-arm-4.jigdo'

It will still take some time to generate them all, but then, I could
probably break it up per arch and run lots of them in parallell, the cpu
is idle most of the time.

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jigdo-easy2win and Unofficial CD images: .jigdo for woody missing?

2002-04-30 Thread G. Del Merritt

I downloaded jigdo-easy2win tonight and tried to use it to get a copy of a
woody boot CD image.  It failed with the message as shown below.  I confess to
be using Win/2K.  I selected the choice [8] for Unofficial CD's, then
choice [3] for Woody : Pre-release testing images at cdimage.debian.org,
then choice [1] for ix86 and [1] for the first CD image.

I also tried to get a woody snapshot with choice [4], Woody : Snapshots at
ftp.fsn.hu, but that was terrifyingly slow.

I have jigdo-easy2win running happily on an official potato CD image, so I'm
pretty sure it's not just my machine.  Who is the correct person to contact to
see about making:
   http://cdimage.debian.org/pre-release-jigdo/i386/woody-i386-1_NONUS.jigdo 

available?  Or did I miss the announcement, and woody is now live and stable?

Thanks,
-Del, who would appreciate a CC on your reply

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CD IMAGE SELECTION
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Downloading .jigdo file, one moment please...

--23:35:50--  http://cdimage.debian.org/pre-release-jigdo/i386/woody-i386-1_NONUS.jigdo
   = `woody-i386-1_NONUS.jigdo'
Connecting to cdimage.debian.org:80... connected!
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
23:35:50 ERROR 404: Not Found.

Error: could not download 
`http://cdimage.debian.org/pre-release-jigdo/i386/woody-i386-1_NONUS.jigdo'

Note: This may happen when the automatic random server selection has
selected a server that is not available at this moment. Please try
again in a few minutes. Thanks for your patience.

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