Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamManager question
Hi Fred, Canned message follows... Thanks for your interest in Alligate for IMail. We recommend that you first look over the product documentation so that you will have a good understanding of Alligate's capabilities and installation options. The documentation can be downloaded at the following address: http://www.alligate.com/imail/downloads.asp We will be happy to supply you with a free 30 day license so that you can evaluate the product. In order to generate the license and key codes for you we will need to know the IP address for the computer you will be using to test Alligate. For the IMail stand alone version, pricing is determined by the number of users your are receiving mail for. For the Declude version, it is a flat fee for unlimited use. Licensing costs are available at http://www.alligate.com/imail/pricing.htm Thanks again, Brian Milburn Solid Oak Software On 06/11/03 5:46pm you wrote... > >Hi Fred, > >Sure, I'll be posting a message here, probably tomorrow. > >Brian > >On 06/11/03 8:07pm you wrote... >>Brian let me know when you are ready, I would like to try it. >> >>Thanks. >> >>Fred >> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>- Original Message - >>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 7:25 PM >>Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamManager question >> >> >>> >>> It's going to be a whole lot better here in a day or two. I've >>incorporated >>> all the new stuff we put into the Alligate Gateway into the version for >>> Declude. There is HTML density testing, compression testing, repeat >>spammer >>> tracking, foolproof obfuscation detection and removal, and a lot more. >>> >>> There are also better pattern file features such as word proximity >>checking >>> where words can be check to see if they are within x number if characters >>of >>> each other. This is useful for stuff like checking to see if the >>characters >>> "XXX" are within 20 characters of "http://"; for instance. It is also >>useful >>> for giving negative weights to pattern matches that have words like >>"Shipping" >>> "Tax" and "Total" within say 120 characters of each other indicating it >is >>> probably a receipt or invoice for something. >>> >>> Brian >>> >>> On 06/11/03 4:06pm you wrote... >>> >Short answer, I love it. I have been using it since it was first out in >>> >beta. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA >>> > >>> >Engineer/Consultant >>> > >>> >eServices For You >>> > >>> >www.eservicesforyou.com >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >-Original Message- >>> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson >>> >Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:31 PM >>> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Spammanager question >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >We have the sniffer product and it works great, we wanted to also >>introduce >>> >a second content application, i.e. spammanager, but I wanted to see how >>well >>> >it was doing in the field via testimonies. Thanks for the aid. >>> > >>> >___ >>> > >>> >Keith Johnson >>> >Network Engineer >>> >Network Advocates, Inc. >>> >Tel: 502.412.1050 >>> >Fax: 502.412.1058 >>> >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > >>> >"Good pings come in small packets" >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> --- >>> [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus >>(http://www.declude.com)] >>> >>> --- >>> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To >>> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and >>> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found >>> at http://www.mail-archive.com. >>> >> >>--- >>[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus >>(http://www.declude.com)] >> >>--- >>This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To >>unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and >>type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found >>at http://www.mail-archive.com. >> > >--- >[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus >(http://www.declude.com)] > >--- >This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To >unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and >type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found >at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamManager question
Brian,
That sounds awesome. Should I wait for the new release or go ahead an
implement your current version. Will there be a pricing increase, versus an upgrade
charge if I buy it now. Thanks for the info.
Keith
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Sent: Wed 6/11/2003 7:25 PM
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Cc:
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamManager question
It's going to be a whole lot better here in a day or two. I've incorporated
all the new stuff we put into the Alligate Gateway into the version for
Declude. There is HTML density testing, compression testing, repeat spammer
tracking, foolproof obfuscation detection and removal, and a lot more.
There are also better pattern file features such as word proximity checking
where words can be check to see if they are within x number if characters of
each other. This is useful for stuff like checking to see if the characters
"XXX" are within 20 characters of "http://"; for instance. It is also useful
for giving negative weights to pattern matches that have words like "Shipping"
"Tax" and "Total" within say 120 characters of each other indicating it is
probably a receipt or invoice for something.
Brian
On 06/11/03 4:06pm you wrote...
>Short answer, I love it. I have been using it since it was first out in
>beta.
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>John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
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>Engineer/Consultant
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>eServices For You
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>www.eservicesforyou.com
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>
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>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson
>Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:31 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Spammanager question
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>We have the sniffer product and it works great, we wanted to also introduce
>a second content application, i.e. spammanager, but I wanted to see how well
>it was doing in the field via testimonies. Thanks for the aid.
>
>___
>
>Keith Johnson
>Network Engineer
>Network Advocates, Inc.
>Tel: 502.412.1050
>Fax: 502.412.1058
>Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>"Good pings come in small packets"
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamManager question
Hi Fred, Sure, I'll be posting a message here, probably tomorrow. Brian On 06/11/03 8:07pm you wrote... >Brian let me know when you are ready, I would like to try it. > >Thanks. > >Fred > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >- Original Message - >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 7:25 PM >Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamManager question > > >> >> It's going to be a whole lot better here in a day or two. I've >incorporated >> all the new stuff we put into the Alligate Gateway into the version for >> Declude. There is HTML density testing, compression testing, repeat >spammer >> tracking, foolproof obfuscation detection and removal, and a lot more. >> >> There are also better pattern file features such as word proximity >checking >> where words can be check to see if they are within x number if characters >of >> each other. This is useful for stuff like checking to see if the >characters >> "XXX" are within 20 characters of "http://"; for instance. It is also >useful >> for giving negative weights to pattern matches that have words like >"Shipping" >> "Tax" and "Total" within say 120 characters of each other indicating it is >> probably a receipt or invoice for something. >> >> Brian >> >> On 06/11/03 4:06pm you wrote... >> >Short answer, I love it. I have been using it since it was first out in >> >beta. >> > >> > >> > >> >John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA >> > >> >Engineer/Consultant >> > >> >eServices For You >> > >> >www.eservicesforyou.com >> > >> > >> > >> >-Original Message- >> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson >> >Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:31 PM >> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Spammanager question >> > >> > >> > >> >We have the sniffer product and it works great, we wanted to also >introduce >> >a second content application, i.e. spammanager, but I wanted to see how >well >> >it was doing in the field via testimonies. Thanks for the aid. >> > >> >___ >> > >> >Keith Johnson >> >Network Engineer >> >Network Advocates, Inc. >> >Tel: 502.412.1050 >> >Fax: 502.412.1058 >> >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> >"Good pings come in small packets" >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> --- >> [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus >(http://www.declude.com)] >> >> --- >> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To >> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and >> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found >> at http://www.mail-archive.com. >> > >--- >[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus >(http://www.declude.com)] > >--- >This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To >unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and >type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found >at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamManager question
Brian let me know when you are ready, I would like to try it. Thanks. Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 7:25 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamManager question > > It's going to be a whole lot better here in a day or two. I've incorporated > all the new stuff we put into the Alligate Gateway into the version for > Declude. There is HTML density testing, compression testing, repeat spammer > tracking, foolproof obfuscation detection and removal, and a lot more. > > There are also better pattern file features such as word proximity checking > where words can be check to see if they are within x number if characters of > each other. This is useful for stuff like checking to see if the characters > "XXX" are within 20 characters of "http://"; for instance. It is also useful > for giving negative weights to pattern matches that have words like "Shipping" > "Tax" and "Total" within say 120 characters of each other indicating it is > probably a receipt or invoice for something. > > Brian > > On 06/11/03 4:06pm you wrote... > >Short answer, I love it. I have been using it since it was first out in > >beta. > > > > > > > >John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA > > > >Engineer/Consultant > > > >eServices For You > > > >www.eservicesforyou.com > > > > > > > >-Original Message- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson > >Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:31 PM > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Spammanager question > > > > > > > >We have the sniffer product and it works great, we wanted to also introduce > >a second content application, i.e. spammanager, but I wanted to see how well > >it was doing in the field via testimonies. Thanks for the aid. > > > >___ > > > >Keith Johnson > >Network Engineer > >Network Advocates, Inc. > >Tel: 502.412.1050 > >Fax: 502.412.1058 > >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >"Good pings come in small packets" > > > > > > > > > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamManager question
It's going to be a whole lot better here in a day or two. I've incorporated all the new stuff we put into the Alligate Gateway into the version for Declude. There is HTML density testing, compression testing, repeat spammer tracking, foolproof obfuscation detection and removal, and a lot more. There are also better pattern file features such as word proximity checking where words can be check to see if they are within x number if characters of each other. This is useful for stuff like checking to see if the characters "XXX" are within 20 characters of "http://"; for instance. It is also useful for giving negative weights to pattern matches that have words like "Shipping" "Tax" and "Total" within say 120 characters of each other indicating it is probably a receipt or invoice for something. Brian On 06/11/03 4:06pm you wrote... >Short answer, I love it. I have been using it since it was first out in >beta. > > > >John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA > >Engineer/Consultant > >eServices For You > >www.eservicesforyou.com > > > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson >Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:31 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Spammanager question > > > >We have the sniffer product and it works great, we wanted to also introduce >a second content application, i.e. spammanager, but I wanted to see how well >it was doing in the field via testimonies. Thanks for the aid. > >___ > >Keith Johnson >Network Engineer >Network Advocates, Inc. >Tel: 502.412.1050 >Fax: 502.412.1058 >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >"Good pings come in small packets" > > > > --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spammanager question
Title: Spammanager question Spammanager is a great product, and excellent support from Brian. This test alone accounts for about 70% of my hold weight. Jeffrey Di Gregorio Systems Administrator Pacific School of Religion -Original Message- From: Keith Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Spammanager question We have the sniffer product and it works great, we wanted to also introduce a second content application, i.e. spammanager, but I wanted to see how well it was doing in the field via testimonies. Thanks for the aid. ___ Keith Johnson Network Engineer Network Advocates, Inc. Tel: 502.412.1050 Fax: 502.412.1058 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Good pings come in small packets"
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spammanager question
Title: Spammanager question Keith, CYBERSitter is getting very close to announcing the official release of their AlliGate for Declude (formerly SpamManager) plug-in. My understanding is that the finishing touches are being applied to the documentation and then it will be released. I've been running the plug-in with JunkMail since it's first beta release and have been quite impressed with it. The final release product incorporates a lot of really unique but extremely effective new spam tests (see a posting I sent to this list last week for a description of a few of the new spam tests). We also run Sniffer, and have great success with that product, as well. However, I would wholeheartedly recommend AlliGate as an additional content filter plug-in for use with Declude JunkMail! Bill - Original Message - From: Keith Johnson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:31 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Spammanager question We have the sniffer product and it works great, we wanted to also introduce a second content application, i.e. spammanager, but I wanted to see how well it was doing in the field via testimonies. Thanks for the aid. ___ Keith Johnson Network Engineer Network Advocates, Inc. Tel: 502.412.1050 Fax: 502.412.1058 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Good pings come in small packets"
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamManager question
Title: Spammanager question Short answer, I love it. I have been using it since it was first out in beta. John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA Engineer/Consultant eServices For You www.eservicesforyou.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Spammanager question We have the sniffer product and it works great, we wanted to also introduce a second content application, i.e. spammanager, but I wanted to see how well it was doing in the field via testimonies. Thanks for the aid. ___ Keith Johnson Network Engineer Network Advocates, Inc. Tel: 502.412.1050 Fax: 502.412.1058 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Good pings come in small packets"
[Declude.JunkMail] Spammanager question
Title: Spammanager question We have the sniffer product and it works great, we wanted to also introduce a second content application, i.e. spammanager, but I wanted to see how well it was doing in the field via testimonies. Thanks for the aid. ___ Keith Johnson Network Engineer Network Advocates, Inc. Tel: 502.412.1050 Fax: 502.412.1058 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Good pings come in small packets"
