Completed How the Apache OpenOffice Project Works

[Joshua Gaines]

Completed the "How the Apache OpenOffice Project Works" module

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Starting Introduction to Contributing to Apache OpenOffice Module

[Joshua Gaines]

Hello,

My name is Joshua Gaines. I am interested in contributing to Apache Open
Office because I want to keep my coding skills up to date. I am from
central Kentucky. I currently work as a Quality Assurance Engineer in the
Software Development.

Thank you,
Josh

Re: [WEBSITE][BUG] Download script

[Marcus (OOo)]

Am 08/03/2013 11:16 PM, schrieb Michal Hriň:

Dňa Thu, 25 Jul 2013 22:25:10 +0200 Marcus (OOo) 
napísal:


Am 07/25/2013 10:06 PM, schrieb Michal Hriň:

Dňa Thu, 25 Jul 2013 00:11:53 +0200 Marcus (OOo) 
napísal:


Am 07/24/2013 11:17 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

Am 07/24/2013 11:02 PM, schrieb Michal Hriň:

Dňa Wed, 24 Jul 2013 22:50:30 +0200 Michal Hri

napísal:

And Marcus, when you will lookin' at it , please,
repair "Language name " to only "slovenčina" ..
Thanks.


You mean on the "other.html"?


OK, forget it. Found it. ;-)

But I remember our discussion from the past OOo project about a)
correct writing of sk + sl and b) how to differenciate between both
writings as they are very similar in their native languages. So, you
suggested the additional text to make it clear.

Do you want this to be changed now?



I remember this discussion (maybe I was misunderstood) but let this
question
opened ..

I would like to contact Slovak linguistic organization - they explain it
definitely.


OK, I'll wait.


Hi Marcus,

I have answer from Slovak institute of linguistics about name of my
language ;).

"slovenčina" and "slovenský jazyk" are _synonyms_. This means that both
are same.

slovenčina means Slovak / Slovakian and
slovenský jazy means Slovak language.

So, it is not necessary to change that name in script.


OK, thanks for your feedback.

Marcus





From: Marcus (OOo) 
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: [WEBSITE][BUG] Download script

Am 07/24/2013 09:45 PM, schrieb Michal Hriň:

Internet Explorer 10 and Windows 7 64bit is recognized by download
script as "Windows mobile device".


Please post the output of the analysis webpage:

http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html

Then I will have a look.

Thanks in advance.

Marcus


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Re: User Guide area on CWiki

[Ricardo Berlasso]

2013/8/3 Kay Schenk 

> Is there any problem with moving the CWiki User Guide area --
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/User+Guides
>
> to the Archive area?
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Archive
>
> This User Guide area is not current and may confuse interested
> documentation volunteers.
>

+1. No problem at all on archiving that page.

Regards
Ricardo



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>
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Re: [WEBSITE][BUG] Download script

[Michal Hriň]

Dňa Thu, 25 Jul 2013 22:25:10 +0200 Marcus (OOo)   
napísal:



Am 07/25/2013 10:06 PM, schrieb Michal Hriň:

Dňa Thu, 25 Jul 2013 00:11:53 +0200 Marcus (OOo) 
napísal:


Am 07/24/2013 11:17 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

Am 07/24/2013 11:02 PM, schrieb Michal Hriň:
Dňa Wed, 24 Jul 2013 22:50:30 +0200 Michal Hri  


napísal:

And Marcus, when you will lookin' at it , please,
repair "Language name " to only "slovenčina" ..
Thanks.


You mean on the "other.html"?


OK, forget it. Found it. ;-)

But I remember our discussion from the past OOo project about a)
correct writing of sk + sl and b) how to differenciate between both
writings as they are very similar in their native languages. So, you
suggested the additional text to make it clear.

Do you want this to be changed now?



I remember this discussion (maybe I was misunderstood) but let this
question
opened ..

I would like to contact Slovak linguistic organization - they explain it
definitely.


OK, I'll wait.


Hi Marcus,

I have answer from Slovak institute of linguistics about name of my  
language ;).


"slovenčina" and "slovenský jazyk" are _synonyms_. This means that both  
are same.


slovenčina means Slovak / Slovakian and
slovenský jazy means Slovak language.

So, it is not necessary to change that name in script.

Regards,
Michal Hriň



- MH



Marcus





From: Marcus (OOo) 
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: [WEBSITE][BUG] Download script

Am 07/24/2013 09:45 PM, schrieb Michal Hriň:

Internet Explorer 10 and Windows 7 64bit is recognized by download
script as "Windows mobile device".


Please post the output of the analysis webpage:

http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html

Then I will have a look.

Thanks in advance.

Marcus


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Re: OpenOffice Writer 4.0.0 crashes, Writer 3.4.1 works correctly

[David Gerard]

On 3 August 2013 14:31, Emanuele  wrote:

> Trying with smaller chunks, the problematic text seems to be: ਪੰਜਾਬੀ
> 
> (the one before Polski).


Reproduced here with freshly-installed en-US on Windows 7 - I paste
the text, the Windows "OpenOffice 4.0.0 has stopped working" comes up.
Behaves correctly in LO 4.1.0.4. Is there a bug report yet?


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Re: User Guide area on CWiki

[Keith N. McKenna]

Kay Schenk wrote:

Is there any problem with moving the CWiki User Guide area --

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/User+Guides

to the Archive area?
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Archive

This User Guide area is not current and may confuse interested
documentation volunteers.



Kay;

I see no problem at all with moving that to the archive area.

Regards
Keith


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User Guide area on CWiki

[Kay Schenk]

Is there any problem with moving the CWiki User Guide area --

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/User+Guides

to the Archive area?
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Archive

This User Guide area is not current and may confuse interested
documentation volunteers.


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Success is falling nine times and getting up ten."
 -- Jon Bon Jovi

Re: OpenOffice Writer 4.0.0 crashes, Writer 3.4.1 works correctly

[Emanuele]

Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> (removing useless lists from recipients)
>
> On 28/07/2013 Robert Hupp wrote:
>> OpenOffice Writer 4.0.0 crashes, Writer 3.4.1 works correctly
>> yesterday I installed OpenOffice 4.0.0 retaining 3.4.1. Copying a wiki
>> article OpenOffice Writer 4.0.0 crashed consistently. Example: The
>> crashing point lies within the highlighted area (text made with Writer
>> 3.4.1 and copied to Thunderbird), between Français
>> http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmodernisme and Links bearbeiten
>> http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q47783#sitelinks-wikipedia :
>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmoderne
>
> I cannot crash OpenOffice 4 by copying and pasting text from
> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmoderne
> (either the portion you described or the whole page). Maybe you need
> to give some more details. Also check if CTRL-Shift-V (Paste Special,
> Unformatted) works.

Win 7.
AOO 4.0 German and Italian.
Just installed.
Profile migrated from 3.4 (I think, I was not exactly sure of what I
clicked).
Internet Explorer 10 and Opera 11.something.
Empty document.

Copied the text in the side bar of the page
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmoderne
Starting from "In anderen Sprachen" to "Links bearbeiten" (included).

Pasted from the menu and with ctrl+v => crash.

Trying with smaller chunks, the problematic text seems to be: ਪੰਜਾਬੀ

(the one before Polski).
Copy & pasting that piece is enough to crash AOO 4.0 Writer or Impress,
while Calc works fine if pasting not in "edit mode" (i.e. not pasting in
the formula bar, pasting in the bar results in a crash as well).

HTH.

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Re: first start of AOO 4

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 29/07/2013 Guenter Marxen wrote:

During the first start AOO 4 asks if it should install the dictionaries
of AOO 3.4.1.
Answering yes is OK (dict is installed in AOO4), but when clicking
[Abbrechen] (Cancel), AOO 4 is aborted too.
Worth an issue?


Is it similar (albeit much simpler) to what I describe in
http://markmail.org/thread/gj7yptgnjkphhlrl
i.e., you get an error but you can then restart OpenOffice 4 and 
everything works as expected? On that case, this doesn't sound 
particularly problematic and it's already covered in the Release Notes.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Help build ... I am frustrated.

[janI]

This is solved on IRC thanks.


rgds
jan I.



On 2 August 2013 17:02, janI  wrote:

>
>
> On 2 August 2013 16:49, janI  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2 August 2013 08:32, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann > > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>> On 01.08.2013 17:30, janI wrote:
>>>
 Hi.

 When I e.g. stand in trunk/main/l10ntools and say

 build

 no params, it does not run prj/d.lst and does not copy to solver.


>>> Command 'build' called inside a non-gbuild module does not deliver the
>>> build results to the solver - it only creates the build results.
>>> To deliver the build results of a non-gbuild module into the solver you
>>> need to call command 'deliver'
>>>
>>> thx for the help, but now I am more confused, I keep getting an error in
>> "build --all"
>>
>> cd l10ntools
>> build --> success
>> deliver --> success
>>
>> cd ../instsetoo_native
>> build --all:l10ntool
>>
>> =
>> Building module l10n
>> =
>>
>> Entering /share/opensource/aoo/branches/l10n40/extras/l10n/source
>>
>> dmake: Executing shell macro: cd $(PRJ)/source && ls -1 */localize.sdf
>> if [ -f ../unxlngx6.pro/misc/sdf ] ; then mv ../unxlngx6.pro/misc/sdf ../
>> unxlngx6.pro/misc/sdfunxlngx6.pro_begone ; fi
>> rm -rf ../unxlngx6.pro/misc/sdfunxlngx6.pro_begone
>> mkdir -p ../unxlngx6.pro/misc/sdf
>> /usr/bin/perl /share/opensource/aoo/branches/l10n40/main/solver/400/
>> unxlngx6.pro/bin/fast_merge.pl -sdf_files /tmp/mkqLKUYi -merge_dir ../
>> unxlngx6.pro/misc/sdf && touch ../unxlngx6.pro/misc/merge.done
>> Can't open perl script
>> "/share/opensource/aoo/branches/l10n40/main/solver/400/
>> unxlngx6.pro/bin/fast_merge.pl": No such file or directory
>> dmake:  Error code 2, while making '../unxlngx6.pro/misc/merge.done'
>>
>>
>> I have renamed all l10ntools modules (to be sure I catch all places where
>> the old modules are called), so it is correct that fast_merge does not
>> exist.
>>
>> but, when its not "build" and not "deliver", where can I find the "shell
>> macro" ?
>>
>
> Sorry I reformulate my question, find it, its in extras/l10n/source/
> makefile.mk.
>
> Now I just wonder why and  where extras/l10n is called when building
> main/l10ntools.
>
> I look forward to the day, where we have a build system that is
> understandable :-)
>
> rgds
> jan I.
>
>
>>
>> thx in advance.
>> rgds
>> jan I.
>>
>> Best regards, Oliver.
>>>
>>>
>>>  How can I pursuade build to build the targets AND copy to solver.

 thx in advance.
 rgds
 jan I.

 Ps. the more frustrated I get, the more I think about replacing the
 whole
 build, but please dont let that stop you from giving me a hint.


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Usability: dictionary updates and profile migration

[Andrea Pescetti]

To solve a long-standing hyphenation issue
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119087
I've just uploaded an updated version of the English dictionary. It is 
kept unpublished because of the usability issues below, but you can 
download it from http://extensions.openoffice.org/download/17415


If one is using OpenOffice 4.0.0, or upgrades 3.4.1 to 4.0.0 before 
updating the dictionary, there is no problem: once the new release is 
published, users will be notified and will be able to install the new 
dictionary.


Instead, if one is using 3.4.1 and decides to update the dictionary 
BEFORE updating OpenOffice, there are some usability issues. Everything 
will work, no matter what the user chooses, but is the following 
scenario acceptable to avoid too many support requests?


I'm using 3.4.1, I update the English dictionary, then I update to 
OpenOffice 4. I launch OpenOffice 4 and I see: Transfer personal data?


1) NO: No problem, OpenOffice 4 comes with the old dictionary, I'll be 
notified and update it later.


2) YES: I receive this warning:
You are about to install version 2013.07.31 of the extension 'English 
spelling and hyphenation dictionaries and thesaurus'.

The older version 2010.03.16 is already installed.
Click 'OK' to replace the installed extension.
Click 'Cancel' to stop the installation.

2.A) Cancel: the installation does not actually stop. It continues and 
I'm shown:
You are about to install version 2010.03.16 of the extension 'English 
spelling and hyphenation dictionaries and thesaurus'.

That version is already installed.
Click 'OK' to replace the installed extension.
Click 'Cancel' to stop the installation.
2.A.1) Cancel again...
OpenOffice 4.0.0 - Fatal Error
Extension has already been added: English spelling and hyphenation 
dictionaries and thesaurus [OK]
Scary language aside, it's enough to restart OpenOffice and everything 
works, profile is migrated and I still have the old dictionary, I'll 
update it as if this was a clean installation.
2.A.2) OK... OpenOffice is launched, profile migrated, old dictionary, 
will be updated as in a clean installation.


2.B) OK: The installation continues and then I'm shown:
You are about to install version 2010.03.16 of the extension 'English 
spelling and hyphenation dictionaries and thesaurus'.

The newer version 2013.07.31 is already installed.
Click 'OK' to replace the installed extension.
Click 'Cancel' to stop the installation.
2.B.1) Cancel: like 2.A.1, "Fatal Error" but it's enough to relaunch 
OpenOffice (and, in this case, I already get the new dictionary)
2.B.2) OK: like 2.A.2, OpenOffice is launched normally and I get the old 
dictionary.


So, is this acceptable? It seems that we already have 2.A in all 
installations, it's covered in the Release Notes and nobody complained 
so far. I could edit the Release Notes and simply suggest to always 
press "OK". The only drawback is that users will have to download the 
new dictionary again (but they will notified about it).


Of course, 2.B looks like a profile migration bug to me: I've already 
chosen to keep my (newer) dictionary and OpenOffice insists on 
installing the old one.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: [Build Environment] Windows - build using Java 7 (JDK 1.7) without having Visual Studio

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 01/08/2013 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:

Version 2.7.1-1 now takes line endings in the patch file and in the file
to be patch serious. Thus, the application of a patch fails when the
line endings are different.


I haven't investigated this deeply at the time, but the hsqldb module 
has a mix of line endings (that led to a broken patch too) and uses 
CONVERTFILES in makefile.mk to harmonize them.




There are issues 121690 [3] and 121754 [4] regarding building with Java
7 (JDK 1.7) and HSQLDB. I think these issues are the duplicates of each
other [please, can one of the people involved in these issues - e.g.
Fred, Ariel or Andrea confirm this? Thx in advance]. As far as I
understood these issues are solved. Please correct me, if I am wrong.


121754 is fixed. 121690 is more generic; I confirm that after fixing 
121754 I had no problems in building with Java 7, so it might be that 
HSQLDB was the only problem. But I only tried with some "standard" build 
options. Namely, I didn't try with --with-junit or similar, and Kay 
reported issues with that.




On a Windows system with JRE 6 the installation of my build does not
recognize installed JRE 6 as an Java runtime environment (Menu - Tools -
Option - Java). This is no problem from my point of view as our Windows
users should not have JRE 6 installed anymore on their systems due to
its security risks. Does somebody contradicts?


As far as I know, this would be a significant limitation. We can now 
build with Java 5, 6 or 7 and the build can work with Java 5, 6 or 7 
(regardless of the version used for building). Restricting this would 
require discussion, especially on less common platforms.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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