Re: SoaS on the XO progress

2009-01-21 Thread Chris Ball 
Hi Marco,

   > Same results as yesterday with F10 while F11 fails to /init (both
   > images built from an F10).

I gave this a try, and I get a hang after "Loading ramdisk image.." in
OFW when booting a Rawhide image built on a Rawhide/x86-64 host.  Will
try with a serial port connected tomorrow.

Thanks,

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Re: SoaS on the XO progress

2009-01-21 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti 
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Chris Ball  wrote:
> It looks like you're making F10 spins, then?  I wonder what happens if
> you try a Rawhide spin instead.  Could you share your instructions and
> code?  I'd like to give this technique a try for our F11 rebase.

* Clone git://git.fedoraproject.org/spin-kickstarts
* If you want F10 apply spin.patch
* Apply live.patch in /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/imgcreate
* sudo livecd-creator --cache=cache -c fedora-livecd-desktop.ks
* Grab livecd-iso-to-xo.sh attached to this mail (not really polished,
might leave stale files, mounts etc)
* sudo sh livecd-iso-to-xo.sh [isoname].iso [imagename].img

Same results as yesterday with F10 while F11 fails to /init (both
images built from an F10).

Marco


spin.patch
Description: Binary data


live.patch
Description: Binary data


livecd-iso-to-xo.sh
Description: Bourne shell script
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Re: [Telepathy] ANNOUNCE: telepathy-gabble 0.7.17

2009-01-21 Thread Peter Robinson 
> Tarball:
> http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/releases/telepathy-gabble/telepathy-gabble-0.7.17.tar.gz
> Signature:
> http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/releases/telepathy-gabble/telepathy-gabble-0.7.17.tar.gz.asc
> Git repository:
> git://git.collabora.co.uk/git/telepathy-gabble.git
> http://git.collabora.co.uk/?p=telepathy-gabble.git (gitweb)
>
> Dependencies:
>
> * dbus 1.1.0 (D-Bus Tubes are no longer conditionally compiled)
>
> * dbus-glib 0.78 (fixes support for complex types in hashtables)

 F-10 doesn't have dbus-glib 0.78, only 0.76 so I can't add this to
 joyride yet. Do we want an OLPC-4 branch for dbus-glib to handle this?
>>>
>>> Its built in rawhide so should be headed to F-10 shortly. If you want
>>> it before then we could tag the F-11 version but it would be better if
>>> we could wait and then we don't have yet another fork we have to deal
>>> with.
>>
>> OK, I'll wait for it to land in F-10.
>
> Just a note that dbus-glib 0.78 hasn't landed in F-10 yet. I've
> updated OLPC-4 to telepathy-gabble 0.7.18 now, but still can't build
> it for joyride.

Hi Morgan,

As the 9.1.0 release is going to be based on F-11 and not F-10 now I
haven't pushed this one as the whole of joyride will be rebased at
somepoint.

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Re: SoaS on the XO progress

2009-01-21 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti 
>   > 1 haldaemon fails to start and I couldn't find any error log.
>
> Maybe running it directly, rather than via init, will expose the
> problem?

When running it directly it was sitting for a while and then exiting
without any error (even in verbose mode). I should strace it.

> It looks like you're making F10 spins, then?  I wonder what happens if
> you try a Rawhide spin instead.  Could you share your instructions and
> code?  I'd like to give this technique a try for our F11 rebase.

I did it in a very manual/hacky way yesterday. Working right now on
doing it more cleanly, scripting a little and documenting, will post
something later tonight.

> (At which point the difference between OLPC's image and SoaS will be
> very small.  Maybe there'll be no difference at all, even.  ;-)

Right, that's where I want to get :)

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Re: [Server-devel] XS 0.5.1 RC - Last round of testing...

2009-01-21 Thread Martin Langhoff 
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Dave Bauer  wrote:
>>  http://xs-dev.laptop.org/xs/other/OLPC-School-Server-0.5.1-i386.iso
>
> I checked and the ISO does not appear to be available yet. Should it be
> there now?

the rsync completed not long ago, so it's there now. Get it while it's hot...

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.83.4 Development Release

2009-01-21 Thread Walter Bender 
Wow!!

-walter

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Simon Schampijer  wrote:
> Dear Sugar Community,
>
> Since, this date is Feature, API and String freeze everyone was busy
> getting their features in.
>
>  From a user point of view we want to highlight the following:
>
> === Naming alert on journal entry creation ===
> The journal's search and browsing capabilities are less useful if all
> entries are named the same regardless of their actual content or
> meaning to the user. That is why an alert has been added that encourage
> the user to set the title and other properties, like available in the
> journal detail view, of a newly created journal entry. This alert is
> only shown on the creation of a new journal entry, not on resume.
>
> === Display recent activities in the home view ===
> In order to make easier to continue past work, the home view will
> display recent entries in the activity palettes.
>
> You can decide if you want the activity icons to represent the last
> journal entry with a new setting in the favourites view palette:
>
> === Journal ===
> Tomeu Vizoso has been doing a wonderful work of bringing the journal
> implementation closer to it's design.The Object chooser can now be
> filtered by data type.
>
> A favourite filter has been added to the journal toolbar to give a
> better way of marking entries as 'important'. More regression fixes went
> into the support of removable devices after moving from maintaining an
> index file on the device to the use of POSIX calls.
>
> === New ColorToolButton Widget ===
> Benjamin Berg added a new ColorToolButton widget. It is already in use
> in the Write activity to select a colour for the text.
>
> === Control Panel===
> The 'About my XO' section has been renamed to 'About my Computer' to
> reflect the use of Sugar on non-XO hardware. Morgan Collett added the
> possibility to change the jabber server without restarting Sugar.
>
> === Autoconnect to Access Point ===
> NetworkManager does autoconnect on Sugar startup to the last Access
> Point you were connected successfully to.
>
> === Logout Option ===
> Sayamindu Dasgupta added a logout option to the xomenu. Eben Eliason
> added the accessibility of the xomenu to the groups and mesh view and to
> the friends tray in the frame.
>
> === New Logic for the devices positions ===
> The logic to position the frame devices has been reworked. Plug in your
> devices and try it out.
>  [500 external devices eg. USB drive]
>  [400 3rd party devices eg. speech]
>  [300 transient connection devices eg. AP]
>  [200 transient devices eg. camera]
>  [100 static devices eg. battery]
>
> === Table of Content Support in Read  ===
> The Read activity now shows the Table of Content for PDF files which
> support this feature. This eases navigation of large PDF files considerably.
>
> === Acknowledgment ===
> A big thanks goes to all the translators, that are working so hard to
> make Sugar a terrific localized environment and the infrastructure team
> that provides our members with tools and services to make their live easier.
>
>
> Thanks everyone for your great contributions!
>
> You can find more details and screenshots at
> [1] http://sugarlabs.org/go/DevelopmentTeam/Release/Releases/Sucrose/0.83.4
>
> The Sucrose Release Schedule can be found here
> [2] http://sugarlabs.org/go/DevelopmentTeam/Release/Roadmap#Schedule
>
>
> In behalf of the sugar community,
>Your Release Team
>
> _
>
> == Glucose news ==
>
> === sugar-toolkit ===
> * separate debug settings from xsession {{Bug|163}}
> * show an alert on activity close for suggesting the user to set
> properties of the entry {{Bug|215}}
> * add a colorpicker to Sugar, only the ColorToolButton is public for now
> * move the palette to new style gobject properties
> * {{OlpcBug|3060}} Add the possibility of filtering the object chooser
> by data type
> * fix uninstallling of activities that use symlinks {{Bug|171}}
> * remove the hacks for asking the X server for screenshots and use
> gtk.Widget.get_snapshot() instead
>
> === sugar ===
> * make the journal entries in the favorites palette resumable
> * simplify the constants used to identify favorite layouts
> * separate debug settings from xsession {{Bug|163}}
> * add logout option {{Bug|207}} to xomenu (sayamindu, icon by eben)
> * change jabber server without sugar restart {{Bug|142}}
> * About my XO -> About my Computer
> * {{Bug|196}} Fix setting the timezone in debian
> * autoconnect to AP that we connected to last {{Bug|8}}
> * add a favorites mode setting for deciding if the favorites view
> resumes by default or not
> * resume by default the last activity from the favorites view
> * implement filtering by file type for removable devices
> * {{Bug|132}} Filter by timestamp, not by mtime
> * add support for text queries on removable devices
> * dont abort if we cannot read a file from a removable device
> * add a favorite filter to the journal toolbar
> *

[Server-devel] XO

2009-01-21 Thread Jerry 
Hi All:

Ok, I just received my XOs, being an absolute newbie with the XO, if all
I see upon booting is a gray screen and the XO logo, and I don't get
asked for a name as shown at:
http://www.laptop.org/8.2.0/manual/XO_Starting.html
I need to load an os image on this puppy, correct? 

If I hold down the "game keys" I see "school-mesh-0 found" that good
right? ;-) 

Just need to know where I'm at before I start to play

Guess its time to get a developer key to be able fiddle with XS on OX.


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Re: [Server-devel] XS 0.5.1 RC - Last round of testing...

2009-01-21 Thread Dave Bauer 
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Martin Langhoff  wrote:

> Join me in one last round of testing for 0.5.1
>
> This new release (candidate!) fixes the issues listed here
>
>   http://dev.laptop.org/query?group=status&milestone=xs-0.5.1
>
> The 549MB ISO is (or will soon be...) in
>
>  http://xs-dev.laptop.org/xs/other/OLPC-School-Server-0.5.1-i386.iso
>
> the sha1sum is 21b39dc045b8d36de573da165587ea763c74a89b
>
> The updated xs-config and xs-activity-server packages are already in
> the 'stable' OLPCXS repo too.
>

I checked and the ISO does not appear to be available yet. Should it be
there now?

Thanks!
Dave

>
> cheers,
>
>
>
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(Desktop)-servers in 1cc will be offline for an hour ...

2009-01-21 Thread Stefan Unterhauser 
hi all,

because of cleaning and reorganizing
most of the (desktop)-servers will be offline
between 14:30 and 16.

this servers are:
18.85.46.27 tubes.laptop.org
18.85.46.54 teach.laptop.org
18.85.46.34 bombadil.infradead.org
18.85.46.30 xs-dev.laptop.org (xs.laptop.org)
18.85.46.40 schoolserver.media.mit.edu
18.85.46.94 media.laptop.org
18.85.47.212 xen1.laptop.org

server that will follow next days:
thinker.laptop.org
kydon.media.mit.edu

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[ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.83.4 Development Release

2009-01-21 Thread Simon Schampijer 
Dear Sugar Community,

Since, this date is Feature, API and String freeze everyone was busy 
getting their features in.

 From a user point of view we want to highlight the following:

=== Naming alert on journal entry creation ===
The journal's search and browsing capabilities are less useful if all 
entries are named the same regardless of their actual content or
meaning to the user. That is why an alert has been added that encourage 
the user to set the title and other properties, like available in the 
journal detail view, of a newly created journal entry. This alert is 
only shown on the creation of a new journal entry, not on resume.

=== Display recent activities in the home view ===
In order to make easier to continue past work, the home view will 
display recent entries in the activity palettes.

You can decide if you want the activity icons to represent the last 
journal entry with a new setting in the favourites view palette:

=== Journal ===
Tomeu Vizoso has been doing a wonderful work of bringing the journal 
implementation closer to it's design.The Object chooser can now be 
filtered by data type.

A favourite filter has been added to the journal toolbar to give a 
better way of marking entries as 'important'. More regression fixes went 
into the support of removable devices after moving from maintaining an 
index file on the device to the use of POSIX calls.

=== New ColorToolButton Widget ===
Benjamin Berg added a new ColorToolButton widget. It is already in use 
in the Write activity to select a colour for the text.

=== Control Panel===
The 'About my XO' section has been renamed to 'About my Computer' to 
reflect the use of Sugar on non-XO hardware. Morgan Collett added the 
possibility to change the jabber server without restarting Sugar.

=== Autoconnect to Access Point ===
NetworkManager does autoconnect on Sugar startup to the last Access 
Point you were connected successfully to.

=== Logout Option ===
Sayamindu Dasgupta added a logout option to the xomenu. Eben Eliason 
added the accessibility of the xomenu to the groups and mesh view and to 
the friends tray in the frame.

=== New Logic for the devices positions ===
The logic to position the frame devices has been reworked. Plug in your 
devices and try it out.
  [500 external devices eg. USB drive]
  [400 3rd party devices eg. speech]
  [300 transient connection devices eg. AP]
  [200 transient devices eg. camera]
  [100 static devices eg. battery]

=== Table of Content Support in Read  ===
The Read activity now shows the Table of Content for PDF files which 
support this feature. This eases navigation of large PDF files considerably.

=== Acknowledgment ===
A big thanks goes to all the translators, that are working so hard to 
make Sugar a terrific localized environment and the infrastructure team 
that provides our members with tools and services to make their live easier.


Thanks everyone for your great contributions!

You can find more details and screenshots at
[1] http://sugarlabs.org/go/DevelopmentTeam/Release/Releases/Sucrose/0.83.4

The Sucrose Release Schedule can be found here
[2] http://sugarlabs.org/go/DevelopmentTeam/Release/Roadmap#Schedule


In behalf of the sugar community,
Your Release Team

_

== Glucose news ==

=== sugar-toolkit ===
* separate debug settings from xsession {{Bug|163}}
* show an alert on activity close for suggesting the user to set 
properties of the entry {{Bug|215}}
* add a colorpicker to Sugar, only the ColorToolButton is public for now
* move the palette to new style gobject properties
* {{OlpcBug|3060}} Add the possibility of filtering the object chooser 
by data type
* fix uninstallling of activities that use symlinks {{Bug|171}}
* remove the hacks for asking the X server for screenshots and use 
gtk.Widget.get_snapshot() instead

=== sugar ===
* make the journal entries in the favorites palette resumable
* simplify the constants used to identify favorite layouts
* separate debug settings from xsession {{Bug|163}}
* add logout option {{Bug|207}} to xomenu (sayamindu, icon by eben)
* change jabber server without sugar restart {{Bug|142}}
* About my XO -> About my Computer
* {{Bug|196}} Fix setting the timezone in debian
* autoconnect to AP that we connected to last {{Bug|8}}
* add a favorites mode setting for deciding if the favorites view 
resumes by default or not
* resume by default the last activity from the favorites view
* implement filtering by file type for removable devices
* {{Bug|132}} Filter by timestamp, not by mtime
* add support for text queries on removable devices
* dont abort if we cannot read a file from a removable device
* add a favorite filter to the journal toolbar
* sanitize the file name when we copy to removable devices
* {{Bug|36}} Refresh the detailed view when the entry changes
* {{Bug|38}} Refresh full metadata when editing so we dont lose properties
* Focus Search is not exposed via dbus anymore {{Bug|8

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS on the XO progress

2009-01-21 Thread Tomeu Vizoso 
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 17:36, Marco Pesenti Gritti
 wrote:
>>   > 1 haldaemon fails to start and I couldn't find any error log.
>>
>> Maybe running it directly, rather than via init, will expose the
>> problem?
>
> When running it directly it was sitting for a while and then exiting
> without any error (even in verbose mode). I should strace it.

I would gdb it first and only if that turns out being hard, then try
my luck with strace.

Regards,

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XS 0.5.1 RC - Last round of testing...

2009-01-21 Thread Martin Langhoff 
Join me in one last round of testing for 0.5.1

This new release (candidate!) fixes the issues listed here

   http://dev.laptop.org/query?group=status&milestone=xs-0.5.1

The 549MB ISO is (or will soon be...) in

  http://xs-dev.laptop.org/xs/other/OLPC-School-Server-0.5.1-i386.iso

the sha1sum is 21b39dc045b8d36de573da165587ea763c74a89b

The updated xs-config and xs-activity-server packages are already in
the 'stable' OLPCXS repo too.

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Re: SoaS on the XO progress

2009-01-21 Thread Chris Ball 
Hi Marco,

   > Hello, I spent some time trying to get Sugar on a stick images
   > (which are basically livecd-tools based Fedora spins) running on
   > the XO from nand. Converting the image to jffs2 and adding
   > cafe_nand and jffs2 to the initrd was enough to make it boot.

You're awesome!  Thanks!

   > 1 haldaemon fails to start and I couldn't find any error log.

Maybe running it directly, rather than via init, will expose the
problem?

   > 2 X "fades" a couple of times and then hangs the system.

Happy to look into this.

   > I can reproduce 2 if I write the same image to an usb stick using
   > Fedora XO livecd-iso-to-disk. Could be either a regression in the
   > F10 updates or something wrong in the way SoaS images are built. I
   > have absolutely no idea about 1, but it would seem to be related to
   > jffs2/initrd, since it works fine from the usb stick.

It looks like you're making F10 spins, then?  I wonder what happens if
you try a Rawhide spin instead.  Could you share your instructions and
code?  I'd like to give this technique a try for our F11 rebase.

(At which point the difference between OLPC's image and SoaS will be
very small.  Maybe there'll be no difference at all, even.  ;-)

Thanks!

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Re: [Telepathy] ANNOUNCE: telepathy-gabble 0.7.17

2009-01-21 Thread Morgan Collett 
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 10:51, Morgan Collett  wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 10:45, Peter Robinson  wrote:
 The "I accidentally an entire call *and* MUC" release.

 Tarball:
 http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/releases/telepathy-gabble/telepathy-gabble-0.7.17.tar.gz
 Signature:
 http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/releases/telepathy-gabble/telepathy-gabble-0.7.17.tar.gz.asc
 Git repository:
 git://git.collabora.co.uk/git/telepathy-gabble.git
 http://git.collabora.co.uk/?p=telepathy-gabble.git (gitweb)

 Dependencies:

 * dbus 1.1.0 (D-Bus Tubes are no longer conditionally compiled)

 * dbus-glib 0.78 (fixes support for complex types in hashtables)
>>>
>>> F-10 doesn't have dbus-glib 0.78, only 0.76 so I can't add this to
>>> joyride yet. Do we want an OLPC-4 branch for dbus-glib to handle this?
>>
>> Its built in rawhide so should be headed to F-10 shortly. If you want
>> it before then we could tag the F-11 version but it would be better if
>> we could wait and then we don't have yet another fork we have to deal
>> with.
>
> OK, I'll wait for it to land in F-10.

Just a note that dbus-glib 0.78 hasn't landed in F-10 yet. I've
updated OLPC-4 to telepathy-gabble 0.7.18 now, but still can't build
it for joyride.

Regards
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Re: [Server-devel] XS 05

2009-01-21 Thread Henry Vélez Molina 
>
> Do you even get any kind of UI or does the install shut down with
> "install exited abnormally [1/1]"?

Could you be more specific?


> Can you confirm that you have the OLPCXS-0.5.1-dev03-i386.iso, please

yes we have it


>
>
>
>
>


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Re: [Server-devel] XS as virtual image

2009-01-21 Thread Martin Langhoff 
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 6:55 PM, David Van Assche  wrote:
> Is it possible to run the XS server as a virtual Image. The school
> where we have currently deployed XOs has a windows 2003 server that
> could carry a virtual image... Its not what I called Ideal, but I was
> wondering whether it would work...

Yes, but with much grumbling...

 - networking will be a bit tricky to setup if you want the XS to
provide dhcp, nat, etc
 - give it at least 500MB RAM
 - once Moodle matures and starts getting, the performance might become an issue

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Re: [Server-devel] XS 05

2009-01-21 Thread Martin Langhoff 
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Jerry Vonau  wrote:
> I have not run a full install for the latest xs-0.5, I ran an upgrade
> from a prior 0.5 install... I'm thinking that this could be a
> kernel/anaconda issue with the change in kernel headers for 2.6.27.

Frankly, I think it's the "USB is not really supported" issue :-/  --
so far, I've seen 2 problems that disappear if I use a cdrom...

 - Anaconda dies with a python error before it starts installing RPMs.
The error is about an iterator over partitions or disk devices. This
happens in graphical and text mode (less often in text mode).

 - Anaconda dies badly (the computer switches off - kernel hang?)
while installing one of the selinux policy packages. It may be an OOM
issue.

They are somewhat more likely with Via/EPIA systems.

However, you point out interesting issues. What problems does the
mismatched kernel cause?

> And the patch in my custom anaconda that doesn't copy stage2.img to RAM
> when using a hard drive for the source. My version of these patches
> apply cleanly against F9's anaconda version.
>
> This rpm would need to be installed on the build system and added to the
> main XS repo. I'm just at the point of testing, loader builds fine,
> looks to install the modules when run. I'm re-rolling the installation
> media so as mkimages adds the needed modules, so loader can install
> them, then on to testing the partitioning

I am keen on your anaconda magic, but it has to work really well for a
bugfix revision... otherwise, 0.6 might be a good chance...?

What do you think?



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Re: ibus, a new input framework

2009-01-21 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay 
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta
 wrote:

> I just came across ibus, an input framework which seems to be designed
> to be a better replacement for scim. A presentation is available
> online at http://ibus-user.googlegroups.com/web/ibus.pdf
> Has anyone used this ? Any comments on how well this works and how
> stable this is ?

This is a F11 feature 
should have more details.



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Re: ibus, a new input framework

2009-01-21 Thread Martin Langhoff 
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Sayamindu Dasgupta  wrote:
> I just came across ibus, an input framework which seems to be designed
> to be a better replacement for scim. A presentation is available
> online at http://ibus-user.googlegroups.com/web/ibus.pdf
> Has anyone used this ? Any comments on how well this works and how
> stable this is ?

Reviving an old old thread. Apparently, Fedora is switching to ibus as
the default input method for F11
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/IBus --

Whether we like it or not, SCIM is not maintained upstream anymore, so
everyone is looking at ibus as the main candidate to replace it.

cheers,


martin
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