Re: [DNG] OT: MX-Linux 17 Beta1

2017-11-09 Thread leloft 
On Thu, 9 Nov 2017 17:07:35 +
KatolaZ  wrote:
 
> not too unusual to have to issue an "apt-get -f install" during a
> dist-upgrade, depending on how much up-to-date your distro was and on
> how many releases had passed since you did your first fresh install


last fresh install on that machine was debian
Jessie about 24 months ago, upgraded that to devuan jessie about 6
months ago and to ascii today. Everything here gets updated within a 
day of a relevant security notification from debian.  

> if you have a log of the upgrade, we can have a look into it.

I've extracted bits of /var/log/auth.log /var/log/apt/history.log
and /var/log/dpkg.log and stuck them together in chronological order in
one text file (166 KB) if that's any use to you, and i'm happy to
include more if you tell me where to look.  But the machine is happy
(and more importantly, so's the boss...).






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Re: [DNG] OT: MX-Linux 17 Beta1

2017-11-09 Thread KatolaZ 
On Thu, Nov 09, 2017 at 04:54:17PM +, leloft wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Nov 2017 19:11:13 +
> KatolaZ  wrote:
> 
> > If you are on Devuan Jessie you can just simply *upgrade* to Devuan
> > Ascii. There is no need to start from another distribution. Just
> > replace "jessie" with "ascii" in your sources.list, and then
> > 
> >   apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
> > 
> > My2cents
> > 
> > KatolaZ
> 
> Worked like a charm (~1500 packages, 750mb, less than a couple of hours
> downtime).  One observation: although the dist-upgrade was
> performed over ssh, the installation of glibc was halted because xdm
> was active; the option to continue was ignored and the interrupted
> upgrade process had to be resumed with an 'apt-get install -f ' to fix
> broken dependencies before re-issuing the 'apt-get dist-upgrade' which
> ran to completion without a hitch.
> 

Hi leloft,

if you have a log of the upgrade, we can have a look into it. It is
not too unusual to have to issue an "apt-get -f install" during a
dist-upgrade, depending on how much up-to-date your distro was and on
how many releases had passed since you did your first fresh install (I
am sure I am not alone in having had a server with a Sarge/testing,
which got all the way through Wheezy/stable over 7 or 8 years).

HH

KatolaZ

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Re: [DNG] OT: MX-Linux 17 Beta1

2017-11-09 Thread leloft 
On Wed, 8 Nov 2017 19:11:13 +
KatolaZ  wrote:

> If you are on Devuan Jessie you can just simply *upgrade* to Devuan
> Ascii. There is no need to start from another distribution. Just
> replace "jessie" with "ascii" in your sources.list, and then
> 
>   apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
> 
> My2cents
> 
> KatolaZ

Worked like a charm (~1500 packages, 750mb, less than a couple of hours
downtime).  One observation: although the dist-upgrade was
performed over ssh, the installation of glibc was halted because xdm
was active; the option to continue was ignored and the interrupted
upgrade process had to be resumed with an 'apt-get install -f ' to fix
broken dependencies before re-issuing the 'apt-get dist-upgrade' which
ran to completion without a hitch.

Respect to the devs.



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Re: [DNG] OT: MX-Linux 17 Beta1

2017-11-08 Thread Arnt Karlsen 
On Wed, 8 Nov 2017 19:11:13 +, KatolaZ wrote in message 
<20171108191113.gv4...@katolaz.homeunix.net>:

> On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 02:01:13PM -0500, Ismael L. Donis Garcia
> wrote:
> > MX Linux is a desktop distribution based on Debian's Stable branch.
> > The distribution ships with the Xfce desktop environment and swaps
> > out the systemd init software provided by Debian for the SysV init
> > implementation.
> > 
> > My operating system is not Debian, it's Devuan jessie. But I wanted
> > to test an ascii image, since I do not exist I'm thinking about
> > downloading and installing MX-Linux 17 Beta1. And then synchronize
> > it with the devuan ascii repository.
> > 
> > The question was whether someone had done this before.
> > 
> > Best Regards  
> 
> 
> If you are on Devuan Jessie you can just simply *upgrade* to Devuan
> Ascii. There is no need to start from another distribution. Just
> replace "jessie" with "ascii" in your sources.list, and then
> 
>   apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade

..or my preference, fire up 'aptitude', hit 'u' and browse the
"Ugradeable" and "New" stuff, and weed out what you don't want
"right now" etc.


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Re: [DNG] OT: MX-Linux 17 Beta1

2017-11-08 Thread KatolaZ 
On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 02:01:13PM -0500, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote:
> MX Linux is a desktop distribution based on Debian's Stable branch. The
> distribution ships with the Xfce desktop environment and swaps out the
> systemd init software provided by Debian for the SysV init implementation.
> 
> My operating system is not Debian, it's Devuan jessie. But I wanted to test
> an ascii image, since I do not exist I'm thinking about downloading and
> installing MX-Linux 17 Beta1. And then synchronize it with the devuan ascii
> repository.
> 
> The question was whether someone had done this before.
> 
> Best Regards


If you are on Devuan Jessie you can just simply *upgrade* to Devuan
Ascii. There is no need to start from another distribution. Just
replace "jessie" with "ascii" in your sources.list, and then

  apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade

My2cents

KatolaZ

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Re: [DNG] OT: MX-Linux 17 Beta1

2017-11-08 Thread Ismael L. Donis Garcia 
MX Linux is a desktop distribution based on Debian's Stable branch. The 
distribution ships with the Xfce desktop environment and swaps out the 
systemd init software provided by Debian for the SysV init implementation.


My operating system is not Debian, it's Devuan jessie. But I wanted to test 
an ascii image, since I do not exist I'm thinking about downloading and 
installing MX-Linux 17 Beta1. And then synchronize it with the devuan ascii 
repository.


The question was whether someone had done this before.

Best Regards
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Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2017 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: [DNG] OT: MX-Linux 17 Beta1



On 11/07/2017 03:29 PM, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote:
Has anyone in the community attempted to update an MX-Linux 17 beta1 
image from the devuan ascii repositories?


I want to download an image, but first I wanted to know if someone has 
already done this test, since I have very small bandwidth, and has had no 
problems when updating the system with ascii packages.




I did a debian stretch to devuan ascii upgrade, and it was the quickest
and easiest of the upgrades to ascii that I've done. It only downloaded a
few packages. If mx17 has any newer packages than stretch, you might run
into some trouble, or you might not notice that they didn't get replaced.

What I did was:
change sources, update, install devuan-keyring, update, dist-upgrade,
reboot and remove systemd.

fsmithred



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Re: [DNG] OT: MX-Linux 17 Beta1

2017-11-08 Thread fsmithred 
On 11/07/2017 03:29 PM, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote:
> Has anyone in the community attempted to update an MX-Linux 17 beta1 image 
> from the devuan ascii repositories?
> 
> I want to download an image, but first I wanted to know if someone has 
> already done this test, since I have very small bandwidth, and has had no 
> problems when updating the system with ascii packages.
> 

I did a debian stretch to devuan ascii upgrade, and it was the quickest
and easiest of the upgrades to ascii that I've done. It only downloaded a
few packages. If mx17 has any newer packages than stretch, you might run
into some trouble, or you might not notice that they didn't get replaced.

What I did was:
change sources, update, install devuan-keyring, update, dist-upgrade,
reboot and remove systemd.

fsmithred



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