Re: [DX-CHAT] Yemen

2003-09-03 Thread Norm Gertz
Ronit will never happen.closing down Roosevelt Roads means a loss of
2000 plus jobs and millions of dollars spent in the local economy.
Conquistador Hotel next door stayed shut down for years until recent times.

They are now wishing for relief for the victims.

73   Norm   K1AA
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From: "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Yemen


> Too far away...
>
> You know, of course, the irony of the Navy pulling out of Vieques (sp?) as
a
> bombing range.  They've also closed the Naval base there.  NOW the
islanders
> don't know if they're going to get enough of a tourist trade to replace
the
> loss.
>
> Proof once again of the old (allegedly BY) proverb:  Be careful what you
> wish for.  You might get it.
>
> 73, ron wn3vaw
>
> "We're not going to fall for a banana in the tail pipe."
>
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> Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Yemen
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> In a message dated 9/2/03 10:44:54 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
>
> << I need BS7...that's it...let it resurface...! >>  WA8JOC
>
> The Puerto Ricans want the Military to stop using one of their islands
> for Bombing Practice.  I hereby nominate  'Scaffold Reef'  as their next
> target.  Talk about a 'Deleted Entity' !   :-)
>
> Tom  N4KG  (worked both operations, one on CW other on SSB...so it goes)
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Re: [DX-CHAT] Yemen

2003-09-03 Thread Ron Notarius WN3VAW
Too far away...

You know, of course, the irony of the Navy pulling out of Vieques (sp?) as a
bombing range.  They've also closed the Naval base there.  NOW the islanders
don't know if they're going to get enough of a tourist trade to replace the
loss.

Proof once again of the old (allegedly BY) proverb:  Be careful what you
wish for.  You might get it.

73, ron wn3vaw

"We're not going to fall for a banana in the tail pipe."

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In a message dated 9/2/03 10:44:54 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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<< I need BS7...that's it...let it resurface...! >>  WA8JOC

The Puerto Ricans want the Military to stop using one of their islands
for Bombing Practice.  I hereby nominate  'Scaffold Reef'  as their next
target.  Talk about a 'Deleted Entity' !   :-)

Tom  N4KG  (worked both operations, one on CW other on SSB...so it goes)
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Re: [DX-CHAT] Yemen

2003-09-03 Thread N4KG
In a message dated 9/2/03 10:44:54 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

<< I need BS7...that's it...let it resurface...! >>  WA8JOC

The Puerto Ricans want the Military to stop using one of their islands 
for Bombing Practice.  I hereby nominate  'Scaffold Reef'  as their next
target.  Talk about a 'Deleted Entity' !   :-)

Tom  N4KG  (worked both operations, one on CW other on SSB...so it goes)
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Re: [DX-CHAT] Yemen

2003-09-03 Thread Htorr


 
   According to ARRL, the most commonly worked and submitted QSL for DXCC is Italy.
 
   Tom,  W6HT
 
 
On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, harris ruben wrote:> Me, too. But all I need is Scarborough and North Korea.> > Gee, each of us needs something different. Ain't DX great??> It always amazes me in what order people work their countries for DXCC.Amongst my first 100 were AH1, S2 and VK9C. Some people had been trying towork those for a long time!  It took me almost forever to work EZ and Istill don't have A9 and VK9X.  I worked ST0RY for my new one this year.There are quite a few I haven't worked yet including A5, BS7H, VU4,VU7, P5, etc. What will next year bring? :-)73, Zack W9SZ  



Re: [DX-CHAT] Yemen

2003-09-03 Thread Mike(W5UC) & Kathy(K5MWH) Watson

For me, CW is the ONLY way.  The Tri-Bander is up the
tower and will stay there.  2 Elements for 30 Mtrs going up in late
September.  80 Mtr Delta Loop is a Killer.  Bring it
on

73
Mike,  W5UC

At 11:16 PM 9/2/2003 -0400, Ken S SCHEPER wrote:
I would suggest you keep your rig, and
amplifier (that goes on 110AC) and
at least a 2 ele. beam (armstrong aimed)...you got a chance...CW is
your
best bet.

GOOD LUCK !!!
73
Ken 
WA8JOC


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Re: [DX-CHAT] Yemen

2003-09-02 Thread Zack Widup
On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, harris ruben wrote:

> Me, too. But all I need is Scarborough and North Korea.
> 
> Gee, each of us needs something different. Ain't DX great??
> 

It always amazes me in what order people work their countries for DXCC.
Amongst my first 100 were AH1, S2 and VK9C. Some people had been trying to
work those for a long time!  It took me almost forever to work EZ and I
still don't have A9 and VK9X.  I worked ST0RY for my new one this year.

There are quite a few I haven't worked yet including A5, BS7H, VU4,
VU7, P5, etc. What will next year bring? :-)

73, Zack W9SZ  

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Re: [DX-CHAT] Yemen

2003-09-02 Thread Ken S SCHEPER
I need BS7...that's it...let it resurface...!

It's still a fun hobby, despite the politics.

73
Ken
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Re: [DX-CHAT] Yemen

2003-09-02 Thread Ken S SCHEPER
Just remember...timing is EVERYTHING

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Re: [DX-CHAT] Yemen

2003-09-02 Thread Ken S SCHEPER
I would suggest you keep your rig, and amplifier (that goes on 110AC) and
at least a 2 ele. beam (armstrong aimed)...you got a chance...CW is your
best bet.

GOOD LUCK !!!
73
Ken 
WA8JOC


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Re: [DX-CHAT] Yemen

2003-09-02 Thread Steve Rutledge
I dread the day when I get them all.  Nothing to look forward to.  It
kind of scares me.  Sitting here at 330 waiting for 3Y/B, A5, BS7, FR/J
(de Nova) and VU7A.  If the USG hadn't moved me seven times I would have
had all of them except VU7A and FR/J.  I guess all that inconvenience
was worth something!

Steve, N4JQQ

> Bill Hawkins wrote:
> 
> Well. I'm setting here at 333 and I have "no likely chance" of getting
> the last 2 before I croak.
> But then, I remember when it was "no likely chance" that I would get
> Albania or North Korea.
> Heck, I remember when it was doubtful that we would have a shot at
> China. In the meantime there are still some  countries I don't have on
> the WARC bands and most of them are pretty easy. That and
> PSK 31 provide some interesting stuff whilleI am waiting. I just hope
> its not too long. I quit buying green bananas.
> Bill W5EC
> 
> 
> >Well, for what it is worth here is my thoughts.  I am sitting at 325
> and of the 10 I have >left, several (3 or 4) have "no likely chance"
> of operations.  Why keep them on the

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Re: [DX-CHAT] Yemen

2003-09-02 Thread Dean Norris
Me too, Bill.  I am resting comfortably at 334 and long for Yemen.  BUT, 
you know what?  If I don't get 7O, not one person in the whole world will 
care ('sides me).

The following sums up what is really important in life-

Golf balls, Pebbles & Sand
> A professor stood before his Philosophy 101 class and
> had some items in front of him. When the class began,
> wordlessly he picked up a very large and empty
> mayonnaise jar and proceeded to fill it with golf balls.
>
> He then asked the students if the jar was full. They
> agreed that it was.
> The professor then picked up a jar of pebbles and
> poured them into the jar.
>
> He shook the jar lightly. The pebbles, of course,
> rolled into the open spaces between the golf balls. He
> then asked the students again if the
> jar was full. They agreed it was.
>
> The professor picked up a box of sand and poured it
> into the jar and of course the sand filled up
> everything else. He asked once more if the
> jar was full. The students responded with an unanimous yes.
>
> The professor then produced two cans of beer from
> under the table and proceeded to pour the entire
> contents into the jar, effectively filling
> the empty space between the grains of sand. The
> students laughed.
>
>  "Now," said the professor, as the laughter subsided,
> "I want you to recognize that this jar represents your
> life. The golf balls are the
> important things -- your family, your partner, your
> health, your  children, your faith, your friends, your
> favorite passions -- things that if everything else
> was lost and only they remained, your life would still
> be full.
>
>  "The pebbles are the other things that matter, like
> your job, your house, your car. The sand is everything else -- the small
stuff.
>
>  "If you put the sand into the jar first," he
> continued, "there is no room for the pebbles or the
> golf balls. The same goes for your life. If you
> spend all your time and energy on the small stuff, you
> will never have room for the things that are important
> to you. Pay attention to the things that are critical
> to your happiness. Play with your children. Take time
> to get medical checkups. Take your partner out dancing. Play another 18.
>
> "There will always be time to go to work, clean the
>  house, give a dinner party and fix the disposal. Take
>  care of the golf balls first -- the
>  things that really matter. Set your priorities. The
>  rest is just sand." One of the students raised her
>  hand and inquired what the beer represented.
>
>  The professor smiled. "I'm glad you asked. It just
>  goes to show you that no matter how full your life may
>  seem, there's always room for a couple of  beers."
>
Dean
_
At  17:09 9/2/2003, Bill Hawkins wrote:
Well. I'm setting here at 333 and I have "no likely chance" of getting the 
last 2 before I croak.
But then, I remember when it was "no likely chance" that I would get 
Albania or North Korea.
Heck, I remember when it was doubtful that we would have a shot at China. 
In the meantime there are still some  countries I don't have on the WARC 
bands and most of them are pretty easy. That and
PSK 31 provide some interesting stuff whilleI am waiting. I just hope its 
not too long. I quit buying green bananas.
Bill W5EC

>Well, for what it is worth here is my thoughts.  I am sitting at 325 and 
of the 10 I have >left, several (3 or 4) have "no likely chance" of 
operations.  Why keep them on the


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Re: [DX-CHAT] Yemen

2003-09-02 Thread Bill Hawkins



Well. I'm setting here at 333 and I have "no likely chance" of 
getting the last 2 before I croak.
But then, I remember when it was "no likely chance" that I 
would get Albania or North Korea.
Heck, I remember when it was doubtful that we would have a 
shot at China. In the meantime there are still some  countries I don't have on the WARC bands and most of them are pretty 
easy. That and 
PSK 31 provide some interesting stuff whilleI am waiting. I 
just hope its not too long. I quit buying green bananas.
Bill W5EC
 
 
>Well, for what it is worth here is my thoughts.  I am sitting at 
325 and of the 10 I have >left, several (3 or 4) have "no likely chance" of 
operations.  Why keep them on the 


Re: [DX-CHAT] Yemen

2003-09-02 Thread Dean Norris
I love the turn my original post has taken.

I am not complaining that I have been chasing DX for 47 years and have yet 
to get to the "top".  I am just wondering if I should retire from work and 
travel; taking the chance of missing my last needed country.  OR, should I 
stay the course for the next few years with a fairly competitive station 
and hope.

I am almost sorry that I opted to return to school for my law degree at age 
50+ when the GOOD operation was on in ~1990.  I didn't even know it was on 
and even had a station set up at the time (FT757/SB220/Hytower).

I sincerely believe the DXCC should require a massive operational effort to 
achieve!

Dean





At  16:33 9/2/2003, Garth wrote:
Remember, Yemen was on the air with a legitimate, DXCC approved operation in
May of last year.
Just 16 months ago.
Garth, KW4MM



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From: "Dean Norris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 2:14 PM
Subject: [DX-CHAT] Yemen
> What would you assembled masses consider the probability (educated
> guessSWAG??) that Yemen, 7O, will be on the air in the next year.  I
am
> rapidly approaching retirement and me & the missus are looking at buying a
> motor home and traveling until we decide not to travel any more.
>
> Doing so will likely result in selling the home and getting rid of the
> tower/beam, a few hundred pounds of 'stuff' and maybe the IC756ProII OR
the
> 706 MkII.
>
> Anyway, since the last country I need to make Top 'o d' Roll is the
elusive
> 7), I wonder if I should start selling off now or wait a while for a
> possible opportunity.
>
> Ideas?
>
> BTW, I have learned one or two things recently...
>
> 1)  Kids don't think it is funny at all when you tell them that you plan
to
> travel until you are unable to continue and then you will pull up in front
> of their house and say, "Here I am!"
>
> 2)  Be kind to your kids because they determine which nursing home you
will
> die in!
>
>
> Dean
>
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Re: [DX-CHAT] Yemen

2003-09-02 Thread Garth
Remember, Yemen was on the air with a legitimate, DXCC approved operation in
May of last year.
Just 16 months ago.

Garth, KW4MM



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From: "Dean Norris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 2:14 PM
Subject: [DX-CHAT] Yemen


> What would you assembled masses consider the probability (educated
> guessSWAG??) that Yemen, 7O, will be on the air in the next year.  I
am
> rapidly approaching retirement and me & the missus are looking at buying a
> motor home and traveling until we decide not to travel any more.
>
> Doing so will likely result in selling the home and getting rid of the
> tower/beam, a few hundred pounds of 'stuff' and maybe the IC756ProII OR
the
> 706 MkII.
>
> Anyway, since the last country I need to make Top 'o d' Roll is the
elusive
> 7), I wonder if I should start selling off now or wait a while for a
> possible opportunity.
>
> Ideas?
>
> BTW, I have learned one or two things recently...
>
> 1)  Kids don't think it is funny at all when you tell them that you plan
to
> travel until you are unable to continue and then you will pull up in front
> of their house and say, "Here I am!"
>
> 2)  Be kind to your kids because they determine which nursing home you
will
> die in!
>
>
> Dean
>
>
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Re: [DX-CHAT] Yemen

2003-09-02 Thread Fred Souto Maior



DXCC is a challenge and wasn't created to be easy 
to arrive at the top. I and 
many others, had to wait a long time to 
work ZA and XZ (XY). I had to wait more 
then 20 years and other guys that started 
earlier already had ZA and XY credited
easily. But I never asked to change the 
rules to make it. Some entities easy to
work on the past are difficoult actually and vice-versa. 
That's the name of the
game !  And never forgett "This 
is a hobby" Best regards to all of you from Brazil.
 
Fred - PY7ZZ
 

  -Mensagem Original- 
  De: Tony Martin W4FOA 
  
  Para: Scott Manthe ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Enviada em: Terça-feira, 2 de Setembro de 
  2003 17:48
  Assunto: Re: [DX-CHAT] Yemen
  
  Very well stated Scott!
   
  Let's make this Honor Roll thing easy enough so 
  we can all make it without much effortheck maybe we could even make it 
  automatic for those who have been active DX'ers for at least 10 years.  
  Then after 20, one would automatically be added to the "Top of the 
  List".  
   
  H, this sounds a bit like incentive 
  licensing, doesn't it?
   
  I would suggest that while one waits for those 
  "never to be activated" countries, try multi-band DXCC 160 thru 6 
  meters.  Let's not make it so easy that it becomes almost 
  automatic.  Like my granpappy used to say, "anything worth having, is 
  worth working for".
   
  My 2 cents worth!
   
  See you in the pileups.
   
  Tony, W4FOA
   
   
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Scott Manthe 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
    Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 12:58 
PM
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Yemen

While I do think there are some absurd entities 
on the list, I think that people tend to forget that getting on to the honor 
roll is supposed to be DIFFICULT and it's supposed to take time AND effort. 
After all, it is called the "Honor Roll" for a reason.
 
It seems that some ops want to remove countries 
from the list because they haven't been active for a few years, or 
that it seems that it might take 5 or 10 years for the next legtitimate 
operation. I can understand the desire to want to get to the top of the 
honor roll, especially if you're only a few away, but removing entities 
isn't the way to do it. DXing is often a long term propostition and we have 
it much better these days than before there was an internet cluster or 
DX internet mailing lists. Those two tools alone make 
DXing so much easier- we learn almost immediately when the 
operations will take place and when they do take place, when they're on and 
where they're at on the bands. Unfortunately, there is nothing to make 
waiting easier, which is why patience is a virtue. ;)
 
Geo-political situations change constantly. 
What seems like a hopeless situation one day can change overnight. Remember 
Albania? I missed N. Korea because I couldn't hear him, but it was amazing 
that there was such a long term operation from there in the first place. 
There is hope for almost any entity, but it just takes time. If it exists, 
there will eventually be an operation from there.
 
73,
Scott, 
N9AI  


Re: [DX-CHAT] Yemen - and the Implications

2003-09-02 Thread Larry, K4WLS

John, NT5C wrote:

H. I guess I'm the one of the few optimists left in this hobby.

Amateur radio does indeed face a big problem: BPL. However, in other
respects it's doing just fine. More talented and interesting people
are coming in since we lowered the CW barricades, and CW itself seems
to be doing very well now that it's an art to be enjoyed not a hurdle
to be surmounted (witness the all-CW DXpeditions at V63SXW, V63TXF
and VK9XAB). Also, I'm told that numbers in the CW contests are
holding steady from the USA and going up from Europe.

And if you're bored because you've worked everything on the high
bands, start again on 40/80/160M - or if that's too easy, on 40M SSB,
or SSTV, or PSK31. Conditions on 40 are really warming up, and I
anticipate a great fall. Heck, there's even a REAL Democrat to
support in the presidential race! What's all this pessimism?


-
No pessimism here, I am an "experienced optomist"  :-)  :-)

And "gutters" I have the long stretches of aluminum gutters
on the front and the rear of house connected by wires. I feed the
center of one wire with 300 Ohm ladder line. Makes a great 40
or 80M antenna with high angle of radiation to get that "cross section"
of America.  :-)  :-)

Larry,  K4WLS



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Re: [DX-CHAT] Yemen

2003-09-02 Thread Tony Martin W4FOA



Very well stated Scott!
 
Let's make this Honor Roll thing easy enough so we 
can all make it without much effortheck maybe we could even make it 
automatic for those who have been active DX'ers for at least 10 years.  
Then after 20, one would automatically be added to the "Top of the List".  

 
H, this sounds a bit like incentive licensing, 
doesn't it?
 
I would suggest that while one waits for those 
"never to be activated" countries, try multi-band DXCC 160 thru 6 meters.  
Let's not make it so easy that it becomes almost automatic.  Like my 
granpappy used to say, "anything worth having, is worth working 
for".
 
My 2 cents worth!
 
See you in the pileups.
 
Tony, W4FOA
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Scott Manthe 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 12:58 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Yemen
  
  While I do think there are some absurd entities 
  on the list, I think that people tend to forget that getting on to the honor 
  roll is supposed to be DIFFICULT and it's supposed to take time AND effort. 
  After all, it is called the "Honor Roll" for a reason.
   
  It seems that some ops want to remove countries 
  from the list because they haven't been active for a few years, or 
  that it seems that it might take 5 or 10 years for the next legtitimate 
  operation. I can understand the desire to want to get to the top of the 
  honor roll, especially if you're only a few away, but removing entities 
  isn't the way to do it. DXing is often a long term propostition and we have it 
  much better these days than before there was an internet cluster or DX 
  internet mailing lists. Those two tools alone make 
  DXing so much easier- we learn almost immediately when the 
  operations will take place and when they do take place, when they're on and 
  where they're at on the bands. Unfortunately, there is nothing to make 
  waiting easier, which is why patience is a virtue. ;)
   
  Geo-political situations change constantly. What 
  seems like a hopeless situation one day can change overnight. Remember 
  Albania? I missed N. Korea because I couldn't hear him, but it was amazing 
  that there was such a long term operation from there in the first place. There 
  is hope for almost any entity, but it just takes time. If it exists, there 
  will eventually be an operation from there.
   
  73,
  Scott, 
N9AI  


Re: [DX-CHAT] Yemen and DXCC

2003-09-02 Thread John Warren
Gary N5PHT wrote:

Well, for what it is worth here is my thoughts.  I am sitting at 325 
and of the 10 I have left, several (3 or 4) have "no likely chance" 
of operations.  Why keep them on the list? If a country does not 
allow activity from an entity I would like to see them go off the 
'active' list.

This could be handled by starting an 'inactive' list and then using 
the active list to determine honor roll, etc.  I am not just 
complaining but really wonder why an entity would be keeping someone 
from 'top of the honor roll' when there is no possibility of 
operations from there.
Gary,

To me the great lure of DXCC is that it's like a "lifetime 
achievement" award. Nobody said Top of Honor Roll should be easy or 
fast.

In my experience as an amateur-band SWL and a licensed amateur, it's 
been quite amazing how totally impossible countries became fairly 
commonplace (BY), or at least workable (P5, XZ, ZA). But when I 
missed the VK0H operation around 87/88, little did I realize that a 
decade would pass before I got another shot. Just made VK0IR all the 
more appreciated.

I hope we never change the format of DXCC. I like it just the way it is.

73, John, NT5C.
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RE: [DX-CHAT] Yemen

2003-09-02 Thread K0LUZ
Let's solve all these problems at one time!  None of this piecemeal mix and
match.

Since an incentive license has little meaning,  the next step should be to
make DXCC Honor Roll to
begin at 125 countries.  And when you get past 150 countries,  there is no
longer a dxcc total country count,  just a Honor Roll #1 plaque.  That
should solve the inactive list,  and the "I can't wait any longer  I
gotta have it now" problems. The countries that are sometimes a bit
difficult to work will be absorbed beyond the 150 count and everyone will be
happy.

Won't we??

73
Red K0LUZ

Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Yemen

Hi,

Well, for what it is worth here is my thoughts.  I am sitting at 325 and of
the 10 I have left, several (3 or 4) have "no likely chance" of operations.
Why keep them on the list? If a country does not allow activity from an
entity I would like to see them go off the 'active' list.  However, I do
remember a brief operation from Yemen just last year - and I missed that one
too.

This could be handled by starting an 'inactive' list and then using the
active list to determine honor roll, etc.  I am not just complaining but
really wonder why an entity would be keeping someone from 'top of the honor
roll' when there is no possibility of operations from there.  If a legit
operation started the entity could be moved back to the active list.  Just
an idea - probably full of holes but just an idea.

It would require some bugs to work out but I think it could happen.  As for
me, I have hopes that the 3C0 dx-pedition will put me on honor roll and 'top
of the honor roll' is a long way off :-).

73 de N5PHT, Gary


Steve-KF2TI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
2 chances of a legit operation


slim (actually high probablibility of this)

and

none


On 1 Sep 2003 at 12:14, Dean Norris wrote:

Date sent: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 12:14:15 -0700
To:
From: Dean Norris
Subject: [DX-CHAT] Yemen

> What would you assembled masses consider the probability (educated
> guessSWAG??) that Yemen, 7O, will be on the air in the next year.
> I am rapidly approaching retirement and me & the missus are looking at
> buying a motor home and traveling until we decide not to travel any
> more.
>
> Doing so will likely result in selling the home and getting rid of the
> tower/beam, a few hundred pounds of 'stuff' and maybe the IC756ProII
> OR the 706 MkII.
>
> Anyway, since the last country I need to make Top 'o d' Roll is the
> elusive 7), I wonder if I should start selling off now or wait a while
> for a possible opportunity.
>
> Ideas?
>
> BTW, I have learned one or two things recently...
>
> 1) Kids don't think it is funny at all when you tell them that you
> plan to travel until you are unable to continue and then you will pull
> up in front of their house and say, "Here I am!"
>
> 2) Be kind to your kids because they determine which nursing home you
> will die in!
>
>
> Dean
>
>
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Re: [DX-CHAT] Yemen

2003-09-02 Thread Zack Widup
This has been proposed to ARRL by me and several others and was turned
down.  Maybe next century ...  :-)

73, Zack W9SZ


On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Gary Stone wrote:

> Hi,
>  
> Well, for what it is worth here is my thoughts.  I am sitting at 325 and of the 10 I 
> have left, several (3 or 4) have "no likely chance" of operations.  Why keep them on 
> the list? If a country does not allow activity from an entity I would like to see 
> them go off the 'active' list.  However, I do remember a brief operation from Yemen 
> just last year - and I missed that one too.
>  
> This could be handled by starting an 'inactive' list and then using the active list 
> to determine honor roll, etc.  I am not just complaining but really wonder why an 
> entity would be keeping someone from 'top of the honor roll' when there is no 
> possibility of operations from there.  If a legit operation started the entity could 
> be moved back to the active list.  Just an idea - probably full of holes but just an 
> idea.
>  
> It would require some bugs to work out but I think it could happen.  As for me, I 
> have hopes that the 3C0 dx-pedition will put me on honor roll and 'top of the honor 
> roll' is a long way off :-).
>  
> 73 de N5PHT, Gary
> 

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Re: [DX-CHAT] Yemen

2003-09-02 Thread Scott Manthe



While I do think there are some absurd entities on 
the list, I think that people tend to forget that getting on to the honor roll 
is supposed to be DIFFICULT and it's supposed to take time AND effort. After 
all, it is called the "Honor Roll" for a reason.
 
It seems that some ops want to remove countries 
from the list because they haven't been active for a few years, or 
that it seems that it might take 5 or 10 years for the next legtitimate 
operation. I can understand the desire to want to get to the top of the 
honor roll, especially if you're only a few away, but removing entities 
isn't the way to do it. DXing is often a long term propostition and we have it 
much better these days than before there was an internet cluster or DX 
internet mailing lists. Those two tools alone make DXing so 
much easier- we learn almost immediately when the operations will take 
place and when they do take place, when they're on and where they're at on the 
bands. Unfortunately, there is nothing to make waiting easier, which is why 
patience is a virtue. ;)
 
Geo-political situations change constantly. What 
seems like a hopeless situation one day can change overnight. Remember Albania? 
I missed N. Korea because I couldn't hear him, but it was amazing that there was 
such a long term operation from there in the first place. There is hope for 
almost any entity, but it just takes time. If it exists, there will eventually 
be an operation from there.
 
73,
Scott, N9AI 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Gary Stone 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 11:27 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Yemen
  
  Hi,
   
  Well, for what it is worth here is my thoughts.  I am sitting at 325 
  and of the 10 I have left, several (3 or 4) have "no likely chance" of 
  operations.  Why keep them on the list? If a country does not allow 
  activity from an entity I would like to see them go off the 'active' 
  list.  However, I do remember a brief operation from Yemen just last year 
  - and I missed that one too.
   
  This could be handled by starting an 'inactive' list and then using the 
  active list to determine honor roll, etc.  I am not just complaining but 
  really wonder why an entity would be keeping someone from 'top of the honor 
  roll' when there is no possibility of operations from there.  If a legit 
  operation started the entity could be moved back to the active list.  
  Just an idea - probably full of holes but just an idea.
   
  It would require some bugs to work out but I think it could happen.  
  As for me, I have hopes that the 3C0 dx-pedition will put me on honor roll and 
  'top of the honor roll' is a long way off :-).
   
  73 de N5PHT, Gary
   


Re: [DX-CHAT] Yemen

2003-09-02 Thread Gary Stone
Hi,
 
Well, for what it is worth here is my thoughts.  I am sitting at 325 and of the 10 I have left, several (3 or 4) have "no likely chance" of operations.  Why keep them on the list? If a country does not allow activity from an entity I would like to see them go off the 'active' list.  However, I do remember a brief operation from Yemen just last year - and I missed that one too.
 
This could be handled by starting an 'inactive' list and then using the active list to determine honor roll, etc.  I am not just complaining but really wonder why an entity would be keeping someone from 'top of the honor roll' when there is no possibility of operations from there.  If a legit operation started the entity could be moved back to the active list.  Just an idea - probably full of holes but just an idea.
 
It would require some bugs to work out but I think it could happen.  As for me, I have hopes that the 3C0 dx-pedition will put me on honor roll and 'top of the honor roll' is a long way off :-).
 
73 de N5PHT, Gary
Steve-KF2TI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
2 chances of a legit operationslim (actually high probablibility of this)andnoneOn 1 Sep 2003 at 12:14, Dean Norris wrote:Date sent: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 12:14:15 -0700To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>From: Dean Norris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: [DX-CHAT] Yemen> What would you assembled masses consider the probability (educated> guessSWAG??) that Yemen, 7O, will be on the air in the next year. > I am rapidly approaching retirement and me & the missus are looking at> buying a motor home and traveling until we decide not to travel any> more.> > Doing so will likely result in selling the home and getting rid of the> tower/beam, a few hundred pounds of 'stuff' and maybe the IC756ProII> OR the 706 MkII.> > Anyway, since the last country I need to make Top
 'o d' Roll is the> elusive 7), I wonder if I should start selling off now or wait a while> for a possible opportunity.> > Ideas?> > BTW, I have learned one or two things recently...> > 1) Kids don't think it is funny at all when you tell them that you> plan to travel until you are unable to continue and then you will pull> up in front of their house and say, "Here I am!"> > 2) Be kind to your kids because they determine which nursing home you> will die in!> > > Dean> > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems > http://njdxa.org/dx-chat> > To post a message, DX related items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA > http://njdxa.org> Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chatTo post a message, DX
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Re: [DX-CHAT] Yemen - and the Implications

2003-09-02 Thread John Warren
Larry K4WLS wrote:

I many times think the "glitter" has in many ways been replaced by
the "gutter". Of course, Ham Radio represents a good cross-section
of the American population. So, there you go !!
H. I guess I'm the one of the few optimists left in this hobby.

Amateur radio does indeed face a big problem: BPL. However, in other 
respects it's doing just fine. More talented and interesting people 
are coming in since we lowered the CW barricades, and CW itself seems 
to be doing very well now that it's an art to be enjoyed not a hurdle 
to be surmounted (witness the all-CW DXpeditions at V63SXW, V63TXF 
and VK9XAB). Also, I'm told that numbers in the CW contests are 
holding steady from the USA and going up from Europe.

And if you're bored because you've worked everything on the high 
bands, start again on 40/80/160M - or if that's too easy, on 40M SSB, 
or SSTV, or PSK31. Conditions on 40 are really warming up, and I 
anticipate a great fall. Heck, there's even a REAL Democrat to 
support in the presidential race! What's all this pessimism?

73, John, NT5C.
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Re: [DX-CHAT] Yemen

2003-09-02 Thread Larry, K4WLS
Jack, W9SZ, on 02 Sep 03 just posted:

>
> Well, I guess that I will start selling off the 'stuff' and get ready to
go
> mobile in the motor home.  To be honest, ham radio just doesn't have the
> glitter it did back in the 50's-80's.

Jack,

I many times think the "glitter" has in many ways been replaced by
the "gutter". Of course, Ham Radio represents a good cross-section
of the American population. So, there you go !!

73,  Larry


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Re: [DX-CHAT] Yemen

2003-09-02 Thread Zack Widup
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, Dean Norris wrote:

> 
> Well, I guess that I will start selling off the 'stuff' and get ready to go 
> mobile in the motor home.  To be honest, ham radio just doesn't have the 
> glitter it did back in the 50's-80's.
> 

Sometimes I've felt that way, too.  Part of the reason I've become so
interested in VHF/UHF/microwaves in the last few years is that there's
still some of that glitter there, for me anyway.  

Also, maybe it's just me but it seems this solar cycle we're just
declining on wasn't much compared with past cycles.  I remember in 1989
working people on 10 meters mobile with 25 watts at 1 AM on a long drive. 
I remember a passenger I had being really impressed when I worked into
Russia with that same mobile setup.  And I remember when 40 meters was
full of signals night after night in the early 90's.  It just hasn't been
the same lately.

Maybe we need to pay a visit to the Palos Verdes Sun Dancers?  ...

73, Zack W9SZ

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Re: [DX-CHAT] Yemen

2003-09-02 Thread Dean Norris
At  18:26 8/31/2003, Ron Notarius WN3VAW wrote:
Well Dean, got to admit, it doesn't look good.

Considering the political situation(s) in that part of the world, I suspect
that it will prove somewhere between very difficult and virtually impossible
for someone to get official permission (ie a license, written permission to
operate,  or something like one or the other committed to paper).   Without
said paperwork, I strongly suspect that it will be equally difficult to get
approval for said operation at the DXCC, though of course I could be wrong!
Verbal permission won't be enough (ala 7O1YGF), and permission will have to
come from the central government, not local authorities (ala 7O1A).   That's
just the way it is.
Now, one may argue, and argue well, that the DXCC rules on this are
exceedingly strict.  Be so as it may, that's the way the rules are.
73, ron wn3vaw

"We're not going to fall for a banana in the tail pipe."


Well, I guess that I will start selling off the 'stuff' and get ready to go 
mobile in the motor home.  To be honest, ham radio just doesn't have the 
glitter it did back in the 50's-80's.

I would rather find a nice forest site to park a MH and enjoy nature with 
maybe a few hands of cribbage with the missus.

Dean

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Re: [DX-CHAT] Yemen

2003-09-02 Thread Ron Notarius WN3VAW
Well Dean, got to admit, it doesn't look good.

Considering the political situation(s) in that part of the world, I suspect
that it will prove somewhere between very difficult and virtually impossible
for someone to get official permission (ie a license, written permission to
operate,  or something like one or the other committed to paper).   Without
said paperwork, I strongly suspect that it will be equally difficult to get
approval for said operation at the DXCC, though of course I could be wrong!

Verbal permission won't be enough (ala 7O1YGF), and permission will have to
come from the central government, not local authorities (ala 7O1A).   That's
just the way it is.

Now, one may argue, and argue well, that the DXCC rules on this are
exceedingly strict.  Be so as it may, that's the way the rules are.

73, ron wn3vaw

"We're not going to fall for a banana in the tail pipe."

- Original Message -
From: "Dean Norris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 3:14 PM
Subject: [DX-CHAT] Yemen


What would you assembled masses consider the probability (educated
guessSWAG??) that Yemen, 7O, will be on the air in the next year.  I am
rapidly approaching retirement and me & the missus are looking at buying a
motor home and traveling until we decide not to travel any more.

Doing so will likely result in selling the home and getting rid of the
tower/beam, a few hundred pounds of 'stuff' and maybe the IC756ProII OR the
706 MkII.

Anyway, since the last country I need to make Top 'o d' Roll is the elusive
7), I wonder if I should start selling off now or wait a while for a
possible opportunity.

Ideas?

BTW, I have learned one or two things recently...

1)  Kids don't think it is funny at all when you tell them that you plan to
travel until you are unable to continue and then you will pull up in front
of their house and say, "Here I am!"

2)  Be kind to your kids because they determine which nursing home you will
die in!


Dean


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Re: [DX-CHAT] Yemen

2003-09-01 Thread Gary Danaher
Here's a better question. Which country will be on the air first-Yemen 
or the Peoples' Democratic Republic of Korea? And within ten years, too. 
Anyone taking Las Vegas odds on these?



Dean Norris wrote:

What would you assembled masses consider the probability (educated 
guessSWAG??) that Yemen, 7O, will be on the air in the next year.  
I am rapidly approaching retirement and me & the missus are looking at 
buying a motor home and traveling until we decide not to travel any more.

Doing so will likely result in selling the home and getting rid of the 
tower/beam, a few hundred pounds of 'stuff' and maybe the IC756ProII 
OR the 706 MkII.

Anyway, since the last country I need to make Top 'o d' Roll is the 
elusive 7), I wonder if I should start selling off now or wait a while 
for a possible opportunity.

Ideas?

BTW, I have learned one or two things recently...

1)  Kids don't think it is funny at all when you tell them that you 
plan to travel until you are unable to continue and then you will pull 
up in front of their house and say, "Here I am!"

2)  Be kind to your kids because they determine which nursing home you 
will die in!

Dean

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Re: [DX-CHAT] Yemen

2003-09-01 Thread af2c

What Steve forgot is that Murphy may put his foot in the
door:

1.  Sell your equipment and Yemen will activate within 24 hrs. of
the time your rig goes through the door.

or

2.  The new owner will work a good operation, using your old
equipment  from Yemen within 24 hrs. of the time the rig leaves your
house.

73,
Jay


At 08:56 PM 9/1/03 +, you wrote:
2 chances of a legit operation


slim (actually high probablibility of this)

and

none


On 1 Sep 2003 at 12:14, Dean Norris wrote:

Date sent: 
Mon, 01
Sep 2003 12:14:15 -0700
To:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From:  
Dean
Norris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject:   
[DX-CHAT]
Yemen

> What would you assembled masses consider the probability
(educated
> guessSWAG??) that Yemen, 7O, will be on the air in the next
year. 
> I am rapidly approaching retirement and me & the missus are
looking at
> buying a motor home and traveling until we decide not to travel
any
> more.
> 
> Doing so will likely result in selling the home and getting rid of
the
> tower/beam, a few hundred pounds of 'stuff' and maybe the
IC756ProII
> OR the 706 MkII.
> 
> Anyway, since the last country I need to make Top 'o d' Roll is
the
> elusive 7), I wonder if I should start selling off now or wait a
while
> for a possible opportunity.
> 
> Ideas?
> 
> BTW, I have learned one or two things recently...
> 
> 1)  Kids don't think it is funny at all when you tell them that
you
> plan to travel until you are unable to continue and then you will
pull
> up in front of their house and say, "Here I am!"
> 
> 2)  Be kind to your kids because they determine which nursing
home you
> will die in!
> 
> 
> Dean
> 
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Re: [DX-CHAT] Yemen

2003-09-01 Thread Steve-KF2TI
2 chances of a legit operation


slim (actually high probablibility of this)

and

none


On 1 Sep 2003 at 12:14, Dean Norris wrote:

Date sent:  Mon, 01 Sep 2003 12:14:15 -0700
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From:   Dean Norris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject:[DX-CHAT] Yemen

> What would you assembled masses consider the probability (educated
> guessSWAG??) that Yemen, 7O, will be on the air in the next year. 
> I am rapidly approaching retirement and me & the missus are looking at
> buying a motor home and traveling until we decide not to travel any
> more.
> 
> Doing so will likely result in selling the home and getting rid of the
> tower/beam, a few hundred pounds of 'stuff' and maybe the IC756ProII
> OR the 706 MkII.
> 
> Anyway, since the last country I need to make Top 'o d' Roll is the
> elusive 7), I wonder if I should start selling off now or wait a while
> for a possible opportunity.
> 
> Ideas?
> 
> BTW, I have learned one or two things recently...
> 
> 1)  Kids don't think it is funny at all when you tell them that you
> plan to travel until you are unable to continue and then you will pull
> up in front of their house and say, "Here I am!"
> 
> 2)  Be kind to your kids because they determine which nursing home you
> will die in!
> 
> 
> Dean
> 
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