Re: [O] How to specify birthdays?
Josef Wolf writes: > On Mo, Mai 12, 2014 at 10:22:02 +, Dominic Surano wrote: >> Make it a deadline instead of a SCHEDULED item and set it to the current >> year with the +1y modifier. That way it will only come up a few days before >> it's due. >> >> * Calendar >> ** Birthdays >> *** Somebody >> DEADLINE: <2014-05-12 Tue +1y> > > By setting it to the current year, I'd loose track of the original year when > the event happened. > I _really_ like the idea of "XXX is %d years old", like it is shown in the > org-anniversary example! I don't use the diary at all: I keep anniversaries in BBDB. See (info "(org) weekly/daily agenda") for details. Nick
Re: [O] How to specify birthdays?
Josef Wolf writes: > On Di, Mai 13, 2014 at 05:07:19 +0800, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: >> Josef Wolf writes: >> Ah, for that you'll want (setq org-agenda-include-diary t). I assume you >> don't have that set right now? > > Yes, it works with this setting. Thanks! > > I was confused by this paragraph: > > | If you are using the diary only for sexp entries and holidays, it is faster > to > | not use the above setting, but instead to copy or even move the entries into > | an Org file. Org mode evaluates diary-style sexp entries, and does it faster > | because there is no overhead for first creating the diary display. > > Since I don't want the DIARY-ANNIVERSARY anyway (because of its wired ordering > of arguments), I hesitated to use the setting that the documentation suggests > not to set =8-() You're right, that bit is confusing! I think the diary is a bit of a holdover that no one quite knows what to do with. It's the only package that defines arbitrary period expressions, so it keeps getting used, but it seems like not many people actually use the diary as a diary.
Re: [O] How to specify birthdays?
On Di, Mai 13, 2014 at 05:07:19 +0800, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > Josef Wolf writes: > Ah, for that you'll want (setq org-agenda-include-diary t). I assume you > don't have that set right now? Yes, it works with this setting. Thanks! I was confused by this paragraph: | If you are using the diary only for sexp entries and holidays, it is faster to | not use the above setting, but instead to copy or even move the entries into | an Org file. Org mode evaluates diary-style sexp entries, and does it faster | because there is no overhead for first creating the diary display. Since I don't want the DIARY-ANNIVERSARY anyway (because of its wired ordering of arguments), I hesitated to use the setting that the documentation suggests not to set =8-() -- Josef Wolf j...@raven.inka.de
Re: [O] How to specify birthdays?
Josef Wolf writes: > On Di, Mai 13, 2014 at 09:40:56 +0800, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: >> Dominic Surano writes: >> Deadlines and schedules are generally for things that require an action >> on your part, and thus will continue to show up in the agenda as >> un-acted-upon if you don't do anything. Usually, for things like >> birthdays, you just use a plain timestamp (no scheduled or deadline), >> and then you can just see it coming in the usual org agenda. I don't >> think there's any other way to give a specific warning about an upcoming >> timestamp, though... > > Yeah, that seems to work better. > > But still no way for something like "Married %d years ago!" like its shown in > the org-anniversary example on orgmode.org/manual/Weekly_002fdaily-agenda.html Ah, for that you'll want (setq org-agenda-include-diary t). I assume you don't have that set right now?
Re: [O] How to specify birthdays?
On Di, Mai 13, 2014 at 09:40:56 +0800, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > Dominic Surano writes: > Deadlines and schedules are generally for things that require an action > on your part, and thus will continue to show up in the agenda as > un-acted-upon if you don't do anything. Usually, for things like > birthdays, you just use a plain timestamp (no scheduled or deadline), > and then you can just see it coming in the usual org agenda. I don't > think there's any other way to give a specific warning about an upcoming > timestamp, though... Yeah, that seems to work better. But still no way for something like "Married %d years ago!" like its shown in the org-anniversary example on orgmode.org/manual/Weekly_002fdaily-agenda.html -- Josef Wolf j...@raven.inka.de
Re: [O] How to specify birthdays?
On Mo, Mai 12, 2014 at 10:22:02 +, Dominic Surano wrote: > Make it a deadline instead of a SCHEDULED item and set it to the current > year with the +1y modifier. That way it will only come up a few days before > it's due. > > * Calendar > ** Birthdays > *** Somebody > DEADLINE: <2014-05-12 Tue +1y> By setting it to the current year, I'd loose track of the original year when the event happened. I _really_ like the idea of "XXX is %d years old", like it is shown in the org-anniversary example! -- Josef Wolf j...@raven.inka.de
Re: [O] How to specify birthdays?
Dominic Surano writes: > Josef Wolf raven.inka.de> writes: > >> >> Hello, >> >> I am trying to use org-mode for birthdays. I have tried those two entries: >> >> * Calendar >> ** Birthdays >> *** Somebody >> SCHEDULED: <1970-05-20 Mo +1y> >> *** Somebody1 >> SCHEDULED: >> %%(org-anniversary 1970 5 20) Somebody1 is %d years old >> >> The first entry is shown in the agenda for the current day as: >> >> Calendar: Sched.358x: Somebody >> >> I find this a bit strange. I want a reminder a couple of days before the >> event. But I don't want an everday reminder of how days have gone past the >> last event. >> >> The second entry doesn't appear at all in the agenda. >> >> Any ideas what I am missing here? >> > > Make it a deadline instead of a SCHEDULED item and set it to the current > year with the +1y modifier. That way it will only come up a few days before > it's due. > > * Calendar > ** Birthdays > *** Somebody > DEADLINE: <2014-05-12 Tue +1y> Deadlines and schedules are generally for things that require an action on your part, and thus will continue to show up in the agenda as un-acted-upon if you don't do anything. Usually, for things like birthdays, you just use a plain timestamp (no scheduled or deadline), and then you can just see it coming in the usual org agenda. I don't think there's any other way to give a specific warning about an upcoming timestamp, though... Eric
Re: [O] How to specify birthdays?
Not a direct answer, but have you found the org-contacts package? https://julien.danjou.info/projects/emacs-packages#org-contacts It supports the BIRTHDAY property. See the note at bottom of the link above about how it integrates with the agenda. Example: ** Dad :PROPERTIES: :BIRTHDAY: 1955-01-21 :END: On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Josef Wolf wrote: > Hello, > > I am trying to use org-mode for birthdays. I have tried those two entries: > > * Calendar > ** Birthdays > *** Somebody > SCHEDULED: <1970-05-20 Mo +1y> > *** Somebody1 > SCHEDULED: > %%(org-anniversary 1970 5 20) Somebody1 is %d years old > > > The first entry is shown in the agenda for the current day as: > > > Calendar: Sched.358x: Somebody > > I find this a bit strange. I want a reminder a couple of days before the > event. But I don't want an everday reminder of how days have gone past the > last event. > > The second entry doesn't appear at all in the agenda. > > Any ideas what I am missing here? > > -- > Josef Wolf > j...@raven.inka.de > >
Re: [O] How to specify birthdays?
Josef Wolf raven.inka.de> writes: > > Hello, > > I am trying to use org-mode for birthdays. I have tried those two entries: > > * Calendar > ** Birthdays > *** Somebody > SCHEDULED: <1970-05-20 Mo +1y> > *** Somebody1 > SCHEDULED: > %%(org-anniversary 1970 5 20) Somebody1 is %d years old > > The first entry is shown in the agenda for the current day as: > > Calendar: Sched.358x: Somebody > > I find this a bit strange. I want a reminder a couple of days before the > event. But I don't want an everday reminder of how days have gone past the > last event. > > The second entry doesn't appear at all in the agenda. > > Any ideas what I am missing here? > Make it a deadline instead of a SCHEDULED item and set it to the current year with the +1y modifier. That way it will only come up a few days before it's due. * Calendar ** Birthdays *** Somebody DEADLINE: <2014-05-12 Tue +1y>
