Re: [PSES] Product Standards for Aircon Systems

2018-07-19 Thread Boštjan Glavič
Dear all,

I have been told about problem with big chillers. So far standard in US was 
UL1995 but it will be replaced by UL 60335-2-40 (I think in 2021 new standard 
becomes mandatory). The problem is that big chillers cannot meet 3,5mA leakage 
current criteria.

Any idea?

Best regards,
Bostjan

From: Kevin Robinson [mailto:kevinrobinso...@gmail.com]
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Subject: Re: [PSES] Product Standards for Aircon Systems

For the US  safety standards UL 1995 or UL 60335 & UL 60335-2-40

If it is a room air conditioner UL484

Kevin Robinson

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Hi John

Good afternoon,

The countries of interest for Aircon Systems are:

1) USA
2) EU
3) South East Asia countries

Hope to hear from you soon. Thank alot.

Regards,
Vincent


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It helps if you say which countries you are interested in.

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Hi all,

Good afternoon,

1) May I know what are some of the common product safety standards for aircon 
systems ?

2) May I know what are some of the common energy efficiency standards of aircon 
systems ?

Hope to hear from you soon. Thank you.

Regards, Vincent
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Re: [PSES] Product Standards for Aircon Systems

2018-07-19 Thread Kevin Robinson
For the US  safety standards UL 1995 or UL 60335 & UL 60335-2-40

If it is a room air conditioner UL484

Kevin Robinson

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 10:16 AM, Vincent Lee <
08e6c8d35910-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org> wrote:

> Hi John
>
> Good afternoon,
>
> The countries of interest for Aircon Systems are:
>
> 1) USA
> 2) EU
> 3) South East Asia countries
>
> Hope to hear from you soon. Thank alot.
>
> Regards,
> Vincent
>
>
> On Thursday, July 19, 2018, 6:31:37 AM GMT+8, John Woodgate <
> j...@woodjohn.uk> wrote:
>
>
> It helps if you say which countries you are interested in.
>
> John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
> J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk
> Rayleigh, Essex UK
>
> On 2018-07-18 23:22, Vincent Lee wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Good afternoon,
>
> 1) May I know what are some of the common product safety standards for
> aircon systems ?
>
> 2) May I know what are some of the common energy efficiency standards of 
> aircon
> systems ?
>
> Hope to hear from you soon. Thank you.
>
> Regards, Vincent
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Re: [PSES] Product Standards for Aircon Systems

2018-07-19 Thread John Woodgate
Unfortunately, I can't tell you in detail about any standards for 
aircon. I just wanted to help you get more responses from others. 
However, a web search for 'EU standards for air conditioning equipment' 
looks promising. Although the systems us electricity, the standards come 
form CEN in Europe and ISO internationally.


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Rayleigh, Essex UK

On 2018-07-19 15:16, Vincent Lee wrote:

Hi John

Good afternoon,

The countries of interest for Aircon Systems are:

1) USA
2) EU
3) South East Asia countries

Hope to hear from you soon. Thank alot.

Regards,
Vincent


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 wrote:



It helps if you say which countries you are interested in.

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Rayleigh, Essex UK
On 2018-07-18 23:22, Vincent Lee wrote:
Hi all,

Good afternoon,

1) May I know what are some of the common product safety standards for 
aircon systems ?


2) May I know what are some of the common energy efficiency standards 
of aircon systems ?


Hope to hear from you soon. Thank you.

Regards, Vincent
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Re: [PSES] Product Standards for Aircon Systems

2018-07-19 Thread Vincent Lee
Hi John
Good afternoon,
The countries of interest for Aircon Systems are: 
1) USA2) EU3) South East Asia countries
Hope to hear from you soon. Thank alot.
Regards, Vincent 

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It helps if you say which countries you are interested in.
 
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Rayleigh, Essex UK On 2018-07-18 23:22, Vincent Lee wrote:
  
 
 Hi all,

  Good afternoon, 
  1) May I know what are some of the common product safety standards for aircon 
systems ? 
  2) May I know what are some of the common energy efficiency standards of 
aircon systems ? 
  Hope to hear from you soon. Thank you. 
  Regards, Vincent-
 
 
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Re: [PSES] Product Standards for Aircon Systems

2018-07-18 Thread John Woodgate

It helps if you say which countries you are interested in.

John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
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On 2018-07-18 23:22, Vincent Lee wrote:

Hi all,

Good afternoon,

1) May I know what are some of the common product safety standards for 
aircon systems ?


2) May I know what are some of the common energy efficiency standards 
of aircon systems ?


Hope to hear from you soon. Thank you.

Regards, Vincent
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Re: [PSES] Product Standards for Aircon Systems

2018-07-18 Thread Vincent Lee
Hi all,

Good afternoon,
1) May I know what are some of the common product safety standards for aircon 
systems ?
2) May I know what are some of the common energy efficiency standards of aircon 
systems ?
Hope to hear from you soon. Thank you.
Regards, Vincent  

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