Re: [E-devel] enlightenment.org in IE7
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Toma wrote: > 2009/6/23 Viktor Kojouharov : >> On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 09:23 -0600, Dan Kronstal wrote: >>> Hey folks. Not sure if anyone knows or cares, but in IE7 e.org has looked >>> like this: http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8599/e17inie.jpg since the new >>> design. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Dan >> >> no one cares. e users will not be using IE anytime soon. and its just >> not worth the designer's time to fix these issues >> > > > I tried showing some buddies at work what E was and I was greeted by > the garbled page with IE7. Also, If I try to show any other mates that > have Windows what E is, again they very well could be using IE7. Like > it or not, its still the most used browser in the world. Another problem is when you try to have clients to use EFL, they ask what is it and you point to the website = FAILURE. Most managers, specially in embedded systems, use Windows in their day to day work and I don't know why they keep using IE7 instead of Firefox... but they do and since they often do the decisions they'll have bad impression, that you need to remove later. (ok, many wrong things on their part, but that's life...) Last but not least, I think that following standards is required. Coding to a specific browser, even if it's Firefox, is as bad as coding for IE. -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://profusion.mobi embedded systems -- MSN: barbi...@gmail.com Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 -- Are you an open source citizen? Join us for the Open Source Bridge conference! Portland, OR, June 17-19. Two days of sessions, one day of unconference: $250. Need another reason to go? 24-hour hacker lounge. Register today! http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;215844324;13503038;v?http://opensourcebridge.org ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] enlightenment.org in IE7
2009/6/23 Viktor Kojouharov : > On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 09:23 -0600, Dan Kronstal wrote: >> Hey folks. Not sure if anyone knows or cares, but in IE7 e.org has looked >> like this: http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8599/e17inie.jpg since the new >> design. >> >> Cheers >> >> Dan > > no one cares. e users will not be using IE anytime soon. and its just > not worth the designer's time to fix these issues > I tried showing some buddies at work what E was and I was greeted by the garbled page with IE7. Also, If I try to show any other mates that have Windows what E is, again they very well could be using IE7. Like it or not, its still the most used browser in the world. -Toma. -- Are you an open source citizen? Join us for the Open Source Bridge conference! Portland, OR, June 17-19. Two days of sessions, one day of unconference: $250. Need another reason to go? 24-hour hacker lounge. Register today! http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;215844324;13503038;v?http://opensourcebridge.org ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Evas and layout
The file attached ... http://watchwolf.fr/public/Eyelight/eyelight_item_height_bug.png 2009/6/22 Atton Jonathan > hey, > > In eyelight I use some vertical layout but I don't get what I want. The > items are not set to the top but are placed to fill all the box. It seems > than the layout does: > the layout height / number of items = height of an item, each item has the > same height ! > > My items are created from an edje group with a textblock inside. > > I have attached a screenshot of the pb, each item has the same height, > consequently the last item (the bigger item) is not completely display ! The > vertical layout is not supposed to fit the item list to the top ? > > With the help of Sachiel I have made some tests, especially try to set the > max size with the result of evas_object_geometry_get() but the result is 0 > :/ > > Currently my code is: > > Evas_Object *o_text = edje_object_add(pres->evas); > edje_object_file_set(o_text, pres->theme, "eyelight/item_simple_text") > ; > edje_object_part_text_set(o_text,"object.text",text); > evas_object_size_hint_align_set(o_text, -1, -1); > evas_object_size_hint_weight_set(o_text, -1, -1); > evas_object_show(o_text); > evas_object_move(o_text, 0, 0); > edje_object_part_box_append(o_area,buf,o_text); > > -- > Regards. > -- Regards. -- Are you an open source citizen? Join us for the Open Source Bridge conference! Portland, OR, June 17-19. Two days of sessions, one day of unconference: $250. Need another reason to go? 24-hour hacker lounge. Register today! http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;215844324;13503038;v?http://opensourcebridge.org ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
[E-devel] Evas and layout
hey, In eyelight I use some vertical layout but I don't get what I want. The items are not set to the top but are placed to fill all the box. It seems than the layout does: the layout height / number of items = height of an item, each item has the same height ! My items are created from an edje group with a textblock inside. I have attached a screenshot of the pb, each item has the same height, consequently the last item (the bigger item) is not completely display ! The vertical layout is not supposed to fit the item list to the top ? With the help of Sachiel I have made some tests, especially try to set the max size with the result of evas_object_geometry_get() but the result is 0 :/ Currently my code is: Evas_Object *o_text = edje_object_add(pres->evas); edje_object_file_set(o_text, pres->theme, "eyelight/item_simple_text") ; edje_object_part_text_set(o_text,"object.text",text); evas_object_size_hint_align_set(o_text, -1, -1); evas_object_size_hint_weight_set(o_text, -1, -1); evas_object_show(o_text); evas_object_move(o_text, 0, 0); edje_object_part_box_append(o_area,buf,o_text); -- Regards. -- Are you an open source citizen? Join us for the Open Source Bridge conference! Portland, OR, June 17-19. Two days of sessions, one day of unconference: $250. Need another reason to go? 24-hour hacker lounge. Register today! http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;215844324;13503038;v?http://opensourcebridge.org___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] enlightenment.org in IE7
Looks this way on ie8 maybe that's what he meant? Sent from my iPhone On Jun 22, 2009, at 12:55 PM, andres wrote: > On Monday 22 June 2009 12:23:45 Dan Kronstal wrote: >> Hey folks. Not sure if anyone knows or cares, but in IE7 e.org has >> looked >> like this: http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8599/e17inie.jpg >> since the >> new design. >> > Does this happen with http://enlightenment.org/dev/? > It does not in the ie7 version I use with wine but its really buggy > and > perhaps looks different in windows. If you encounter issues I guess > could > install a VM. > > I routinely test with firefox, ie6, ie7 opera and arora (webkit) to > cover all > the main browser engines. Rest assured that all pages that I write > will pass > the W3C standard tests before being published as long as they are > published > by me. > > >> Cheers >> >> Dan >> --- >> --- >> - >> --- Are you an open source citizen? Join us for the Open Source >> Bridge >> conference! Portland, OR, June 17-19. Two days of sessions, one day >> of >> unconference: $250. Need another reason to go? 24-hour hacker lounge. >> Register today! >> http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;215844324;13503038;v?http://opensourcebridge >> . >> org ___ >> enlightenment-devel mailing list >> enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > --- > --- > --- > - > Are you an open source citizen? Join us for the Open Source Bridge > conference! > Portland, OR, June 17-19. Two days of sessions, one day of > unconference: $250. > Need another reason to go? 24-hour hacker lounge. Register today! > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;215844324;13503038;v?http://opensourcebridge.org > ___ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Are you an open source citizen? Join us for the Open Source Bridge conference! Portland, OR, June 17-19. Two days of sessions, one day of unconference: $250. Need another reason to go? 24-hour hacker lounge. Register today! http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;215844324;13503038;v?http://opensourcebridge.org ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] enlightenment.org in IE7
Look Sent from my iPod On Jun 22, 2009, at 12:55 PM, andres wrote: > On Monday 22 June 2009 12:23:45 Dan Kronstal wrote: >> Hey folks. Not sure if anyone knows or cares, but in IE7 e.org has >> looked >> like this: http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8599/e17inie.jpg >> since the >> new design. >> > Does this happen with http://enlightenment.org/dev/? > It does not in the ie7 version I use with wine but its really buggy > and > perhaps looks different in windows. If you encounter issues I guess > could > install a VM. > > I routinely test with firefox, ie6, ie7 opera and arora (webkit) to > cover all > the main browser engines. Rest assured that all pages that I write > will pass > the W3C standard tests before being published as long as they are > published > by me. > > >> Cheers >> >> Dan >> --- >> --- >> - >> --- Are you an open source citizen? Join us for the Open Source >> Bridge >> conference! Portland, OR, June 17-19. Two days of sessions, one day >> of >> unconference: $250. Need another reason to go? 24-hour hacker lounge. >> Register today! >> http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;215844324;13503038;v?http://opensourcebridge >> . >> org ___ >> enlightenment-devel mailing list >> enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > --- > --- > --- > - > Are you an open source citizen? Join us for the Open Source Bridge > conference! > Portland, OR, June 17-19. Two days of sessions, one day of > unconference: $250. > Need another reason to go? 24-hour hacker lounge. Register today! > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;215844324;13503038;v?http://opensourcebridge.org > ___ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Are you an open source citizen? Join us for the Open Source Bridge conference! Portland, OR, June 17-19. Two days of sessions, one day of unconference: $250. Need another reason to go? 24-hour hacker lounge. Register today! http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;215844324;13503038;v?http://opensourcebridge.org ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] enlightenment.org in IE7
On Monday 22 June 2009 12:23:45 Dan Kronstal wrote: > Hey folks. Not sure if anyone knows or cares, but in IE7 e.org has looked > like this: http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8599/e17inie.jpg since the > new design. > Does this happen with http://enlightenment.org/dev/? It does not in the ie7 version I use with wine but its really buggy and perhaps looks different in windows. If you encounter issues I guess could install a VM. I routinely test with firefox, ie6, ie7 opera and arora (webkit) to cover all the main browser engines. Rest assured that all pages that I write will pass the W3C standard tests before being published as long as they are published by me. > Cheers > > Dan > --- >--- Are you an open source citizen? Join us for the Open Source Bridge > conference! Portland, OR, June 17-19. Two days of sessions, one day of > unconference: $250. Need another reason to go? 24-hour hacker lounge. > Register today! > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;215844324;13503038;v?http://opensourcebridge. >org ___ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Are you an open source citizen? Join us for the Open Source Bridge conference! Portland, OR, June 17-19. Two days of sessions, one day of unconference: $250. Need another reason to go? 24-hour hacker lounge. Register today! http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;215844324;13503038;v?http://opensourcebridge.org ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] enlightenment.org in IE7
On Monday, 22 June 2009, at 19:48:31 (+0200), Viktor Kojouharov wrote: > perhaps. but that could lead to even more messed-up layout Not if it's done correctly. Coding for Firefox and ignoring IE simply because it's what the majority of us use is just as wrong and tyrannical as web developers coding for IE and ignoring Firefox simply because it's what the majority of the web users use. We should be coding to the standards, not to one particular browser. Michael -- Michael Jennings (a.k.a. KainX) http://www.kainx.org/ Linux Server/Cluster Admin, LBL.gov Author, Eterm (www.eterm.org) --- "But when two people are at one in their inmost hearts, they shatter even the strength of iron or of bronze." -- The I Ching -- Are you an open source citizen? Join us for the Open Source Bridge conference! Portland, OR, June 17-19. Two days of sessions, one day of unconference: $250. Need another reason to go? 24-hour hacker lounge. Register today! http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;215844324;13503038;v?http://opensourcebridge.org ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] enlightenment.org in IE7
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009, Viktor Kojouharov wrote: > On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 19:17 +0200, Vincent Torri wrote: >> >> On Mon, 22 Jun 2009, Viktor Kojouharov wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 09:23 -0600, Dan Kronstal wrote: Hey folks. Not sure if anyone knows or cares, but in IE7 e.org has looked like this: http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8599/e17inie.jpg since the new design. >>> >>> no one cares. e users will not be using IE anytime soon. and its just >>> not worth the designer's time to fix these issues >> >> but the designers should anyway fix the web pages with the validators. >> >> Vincent > > perhaps. but that could lead to even more messed-up layout then, it's designers' fault... The standards should (must) be respected. Vincent -- Are you an open source citizen? Join us for the Open Source Bridge conference! Portland, OR, June 17-19. Two days of sessions, one day of unconference: $250. Need another reason to go? 24-hour hacker lounge. Register today! http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;215844324;13503038;v?http://opensourcebridge.org ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] enlightenment.org in IE7
On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 19:17 +0200, Vincent Torri wrote: > > On Mon, 22 Jun 2009, Viktor Kojouharov wrote: > > > On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 09:23 -0600, Dan Kronstal wrote: > >> Hey folks. Not sure if anyone knows or cares, but in IE7 e.org has looked > >> like this: http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8599/e17inie.jpg since the > >> new > >> design. > > > > no one cares. e users will not be using IE anytime soon. and its just > > not worth the designer's time to fix these issues > > but the designers should anyway fix the web pages with the validators. > > Vincent perhaps. but that could lead to even more messed-up layout -- Are you an open source citizen? Join us for the Open Source Bridge conference! Portland, OR, June 17-19. Two days of sessions, one day of unconference: $250. Need another reason to go? 24-hour hacker lounge. Register today! http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;215844324;13503038;v?http://opensourcebridge.org ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] enlightenment.org in IE7
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009, Viktor Kojouharov wrote: > On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 09:23 -0600, Dan Kronstal wrote: >> Hey folks. Not sure if anyone knows or cares, but in IE7 e.org has looked >> like this: http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8599/e17inie.jpg since the new >> design. > > no one cares. e users will not be using IE anytime soon. and its just > not worth the designer's time to fix these issues but the designers should anyway fix the web pages with the validators. Vincent -- Are you an open source citizen? Join us for the Open Source Bridge conference! Portland, OR, June 17-19. Two days of sessions, one day of unconference: $250. Need another reason to go? 24-hour hacker lounge. Register today! http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;215844324;13503038;v?http://opensourcebridge.org ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] enlightenment.org in IE7
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009, Dan Kronstal wrote: > Hey folks. Not sure if anyone knows or cares, but in IE7 e.org has looked > like this: http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8599/e17inie.jpg since the new > design. about that, I suggest to the website maintainers to run the HTML and CSS validators on the web pages. The number of errors is quite large, and some css3 properties are used in the stylesheet. Maybe that's why the website is not correctly rendered with IE7 Vincent -- Are you an open source citizen? Join us for the Open Source Bridge conference! Portland, OR, June 17-19. Two days of sessions, one day of unconference: $250. Need another reason to go? 24-hour hacker lounge. Register today! http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;215844324;13503038;v?http://opensourcebridge.org ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] enlightenment.org in IE7
On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 09:23 -0600, Dan Kronstal wrote: > Hey folks. Not sure if anyone knows or cares, but in IE7 e.org has looked > like this: http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8599/e17inie.jpg since the new > design. > > Cheers > > Dan no one cares. e users will not be using IE anytime soon. and its just not worth the designer's time to fix these issues > -- > Are you an open source citizen? Join us for the Open Source Bridge conference! > Portland, OR, June 17-19. Two days of sessions, one day of unconference: $250. > Need another reason to go? 24-hour hacker lounge. Register today! > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;215844324;13503038;v?http://opensourcebridge.org > ___ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Are you an open source citizen? Join us for the Open Source Bridge conference! Portland, OR, June 17-19. Two days of sessions, one day of unconference: $250. Need another reason to go? 24-hour hacker lounge. Register today! http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;215844324;13503038;v?http://opensourcebridge.org ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
[E-devel] enlightenment.org in IE7
Hey folks. Not sure if anyone knows or cares, but in IE7 e.org has looked like this: http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8599/e17inie.jpg since the new design. Cheers Dan -- Are you an open source citizen? Join us for the Open Source Bridge conference! Portland, OR, June 17-19. Two days of sessions, one day of unconference: $250. Need another reason to go? 24-hour hacker lounge. Register today! http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;215844324;13503038;v?http://opensourcebridge.org ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [PATCH] Add distinguish the target site to gadgets
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 09:25:59PM +1000, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > Is it really usefull to unmap ? can't we trust the kernel to drop it > > when under presure ? > > unmapping should help give a hint... it also looks better in top/ps :) The first part is already done by using madvise. It doesn't forcefully trash the VM space though. Joerg -- Are you an open source citizen? Join us for the Open Source Bridge conference! Portland, OR, June 17-19. Two days of sessions, one day of unconference: $250. Need another reason to go? 24-hour hacker lounge. Register today! http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;215844324;13503038;v?http://opensourcebridge.org ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
