Re: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2013, 2014, 2015, ...

2013-02-07 Thread Filip Kłębczyk

So any update for the Call for Organizers of EuroPython 2014/2015?

Best regards,
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Re: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2013, 2014, 2015, ...

2013-01-11 Thread Horst Gutmann
@Giovanni: Is this payment system tightly integrated with the rest of the
website or could it be replaced (e.g. externalized)?

@Filip: For the German PyCon conferences we built our own system that is
based mostly around django-cms. Right now we are updating it for PyCon DE
2013 and it is available on https://bitbucket.org/PySV/pycon_de_website if
you're interested :-)


On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Giovanni Bajo giova...@pycon.it wrote:

 Il giorno 10/gen/2013, alle ore 22:32, Filip Kłębczyk fklebc...@gmail.com
 ha scritto:

  I have another question. On the meeting where the board has been chosen
 there was also a mention about EP conference registration web system to be
 open sourced. I'm asking, because it could be potentially used also for
 local PyCons websites.


 There are two main hurdles with it:

 1) The website is not meant to be a generic CMS, where people with no web
 programming experience can setup a PyCon website. It still requires
 proficiency in Django and HTML/CSS design. This also means that there is no
 installation guides, and no clear separation points between specifities of
 EuroPython and the generic part that could be reused. Our dream would be to
 get to a point where EuroPython-specific code/templates are separated into
 a different Django app, but we're not there yet.

 2) We relay on an internal payment gateway / ticketing system which is a
 large Python-based application (with different technologies, different DBs,
 etc.) for the sole purpose of issuing payments (through PayPal) and
 invoices. The system is indeed quite large, and we use only a small subset
 of it; this is basically an incomplete transition, but I don't know if it
 can be fixed this year.

 Moreover, the PSF has been quite uninterested in helping with this,
 because they are already sponsoring a similar effort: the application that
 powers the PyCon US website. You might as well look into it.
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Re: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2013, 2014, 2015, ...

2013-01-11 Thread Giovanni Bajo
Il giorno 11/gen/2013, alle ore 12:32, Horst Gutmann ho...@zerokspot.com ha 
scritto:

 @Giovanni: Is this payment system tightly integrated with the rest of the 
 website or could it be replaced (e.g. externalized)?

It's not that tightly integrated. We do have a fork where it's removed already, 
but there is some merging involved, plus we don't directly own the fork (it's 
been licensed), so there's also some politics. I'll see what we can do.

In fact, I would be extremely happy if we get to a point where the codebase is 
finally open-sourced. I don't think it will be easy to adopt for other 
conferences but at least it's a start. So the goal is clear and I agree with it.
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Re: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2013, 2014, 2015, ...

2013-01-11 Thread Giovanni Bajo
We only need a server-side payment gateway, we don't need a full ERP program 
nor modules of it.

Il giorno 11/gen/2013, alle ore 16:51, Matteo Boscolo 
matteo.bosc...@boscolini.eu ha scritto:

 Have you never think about to using OpenERP ?, it seems that version 7, just 
 released, have all the requirements ..
 
 Rgerads,
 Matteo
 
 Il 11/01/2013 12:32, Horst Gutmann ha scritto:
 @Giovanni: Is this payment system tightly integrated with the rest of the 
 website or could it be replaced (e.g. externalized)?
 
 @Filip: For the German PyCon conferences we built our own system that is 
 based mostly around django-cms. Right now we are updating it for PyCon DE 
 2013 and it is available on https://bitbucket.org/PySV/pycon_de_website if 
 you're interested :-)
 
 
 On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Giovanni Bajo giova...@pycon.it wrote:
 Il giorno 10/gen/2013, alle ore 22:32, Filip Kłębczyk fklebc...@gmail.com 
 ha scritto:
 
  I have another question. On the meeting where the board has been chosen 
  there was also a mention about EP conference registration web system to be 
  open sourced. I'm asking, because it could be potentially used also for 
  local PyCons websites.
 
 
 There are two main hurdles with it:
 
 1) The website is not meant to be a generic CMS, where people with no web 
 programming experience can setup a PyCon website. It still requires 
 proficiency in Django and HTML/CSS design. This also means that there is no 
 installation guides, and no clear separation points between specifities of 
 EuroPython and the generic part that could be reused. Our dream would be to 
 get to a point where EuroPython-specific code/templates are separated into a 
 different Django app, but we're not there yet.
 
 2) We relay on an internal payment gateway / ticketing system which is a 
 large Python-based application (with different technologies, different DBs, 
 etc.) for the sole purpose of issuing payments (through PayPal) and 
 invoices. The system is indeed quite large, and we use only a small subset 
 of it; this is basically an incomplete transition, but I don't know if it 
 can be fixed this year.
 
 Moreover, the PSF has been quite uninterested in helping with this, because 
 they are already sponsoring a similar effort: the application that powers 
 the PyCon US website. You might as well look into it.
 --
 Giovanni Bajo
 
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Re: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2013, 2014, 2015, ...

2013-01-10 Thread Filip Kłębczyk

W dniu 10.01.2013 06:59, Fabio Pliger pisze:

Hi Filip,


Hi Fabio,


You are right we are terribly late on this. The decisions around all the
details around the way EuroPython Society should interact with local EPC
organizers are taking way too long and the fact there's a new board
doesn't help.


Oh I see. May I have a suggestion? Maybe in future it would be wise to 
invite all the leaders of the local European PyCon to take part in the 
board's work. It's just a loose thought.



We'll try really hard to clarify everything and release a call for
proposals in some days. Thanks for your patience and for understanding.
For what concern the exact dates of EPC 2013, they should be the same as
2012. I'll confirm that to you after a feedback from the guys dealing
with the venue directly.


Ok, thanks.

I have another question. On the meeting where the board has been chosen 
there was also a mention about EP conference registration web system to 
be open sourced. I'm asking, because it could be potentially used also 
for local PyCons websites.


Best regards,
Filip
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Re: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2013, 2014, 2015, ...

2013-01-09 Thread Fabio Pliger
Hi Filip,

You are right we are terribly late on this. The decisions around all the
details around the way EuroPython Society should interact with local EPC
organizers are taking way too long and the fact there's a new board doesn't
help.
We'll try really hard to clarify everything and release a call for
proposals in some days. Thanks for your patience and for understanding.
For what concern the exact dates of EPC 2013, they should be the same as
2012. I'll confirm that to you after a feedback from the guys dealing with
the venue directly.

Thanks

Fabio


2013/1/6 Filip Kłębczyk fklebc...@gmail.com

 Hi,

 As far as I know there was supposed to be a Call for Europython 2014/2015
 organizers+venue proposals in the autumn. Winter and 2013 has already
 started and still no information what requirements should be met and how
 the proposals exactly should look like.
 As a conference organizer I fully understand it is not so easy to prepare
 such a call and requires some hard work. But the hard work is also required
 on the side that will be submitting proposal, especially that we'll have to
 do a pooling on appropriate venues, videorecording companies etc. So the
 sooner we will have the input parameters, the sooner we and other groups
 interested in organizing EP2014/EP2015 can prepare the output for you.

 Another thing it would be good to know exact dates of EP2013 or at least
 know the information whether it will be in June or July this year. It would
 be really helpful for many people to plan things.

 Best regards and thanks (with a lot of understanding of your hard work)
 Filip
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