RE: Mad at My Exchange Server

2001-12-31 Thread Lefkovics, William

You could delete mad.exe...

William 


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From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 6:43 AM
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Subject: Mad at My Exchange Server


I cannot find where my users deleted items are and it still shows that there
is 256,000 k in the Private information store under the deleted items K
column.


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FW: Mad at My Exchange Server

2001-10-25 Thread Semiglia, Michael

Also, I think if he deletes the email before a backup takes place, he really
is SOL.


Michael Semiglia



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Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 1:55 PM
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I find it useful to have Deleted Item Retention for my organization.  I know
several other people do as well.  It won't hurt your Exchange Server.  

If you don't have it and some VP shift deletes an email and tells you it's
imperative that you get it back, you'll have too options:

1. Restore the entire server to an alternate recovery box.
2. Tell the VP "Tough luck jackass.  You're SOL."

If you can do option #2 every time this happens, then no, it's not a bad
thing to set DIR to 0.  If you can't, then you really should consider
setting it to something other than 0.

S.



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sorry took so long to get back.  Yes, I did set it to 0 Andy and I thought
if I did this it would delete all the mail in the deleted items retention. I
also found out where the mail was it was in the recover deleted items
retention.  Also if I set it up for 0 is that bad?  Thanks for helping me
finding it. 

Rich

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From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mad at My Exchange Server



"I like Candee!"




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From: Candee Vaglica [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 10:02 AM
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Subject: RE: Mad at My Exchange Server


Don't be silly, Andy.

*It seemed like a good idea at the time.*


Candee
MOS+UN

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:53 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mad at My Exchange Server


turn it off? You mean set it to 0?  Why?


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From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:50 AM
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Subject: RE: Mad at My Exchange Server


I had that on for a few days then I turn it off. Deleted items retention.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mad at My Exchange Server


Go to "Recover Deleted Items" in Outlook
Whats your DIR time set to?


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Subject: Mad at My Exchange Server


I cannot find where my users deleted items are and it still shows that there
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column.


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RE: Mad at My Exchange Server

2001-10-25 Thread Soysal, Serdar


I find it useful to have Deleted Item Retention for my organization.  I know
several other people do as well.  It won't hurt your Exchange Server.  

If you don't have it and some VP shift deletes an email and tells you it's
imperative that you get it back, you'll have too options:

1. Restore the entire server to an alternate recovery box.
2. Tell the VP "Tough luck jackass.  You're SOL."

If you can do option #2 every time this happens, then no, it's not a bad
thing to set DIR to 0.  If you can't, then you really should consider
setting it to something other than 0.

S.



-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 10:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mad at My Exchange Server


sorry took so long to get back.  Yes, I did set it to 0 Andy and I thought
if I did this it would delete all the mail in the deleted items retention.
I also found out where the mail was it was in the recover deleted items
retention.  Also if I set it up for 0 is that bad?  Thanks for helping me
finding it. 

Rich

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mad at My Exchange Server



"I like Candee!"




-Original Message-
From: Candee Vaglica [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 10:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mad at My Exchange Server


Don't be silly, Andy.

*It seemed like a good idea at the time.*


Candee
MOS+UN

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:53 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mad at My Exchange Server


turn it off? You mean set it to 0?  Why?


-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mad at My Exchange Server


I had that on for a few days then I turn it off. Deleted items retention.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mad at My Exchange Server


Go to "Recover Deleted Items" in Outlook
Whats your DIR time set to?


-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Mad at My Exchange Server


I cannot find where my users deleted items are and it still shows that there
is 256,000 k in the Private information store under the deleted items K
column.


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RE: Mad at My Exchange Server

2001-10-25 Thread Tener, Richard

sorry took so long to get back.  Yes, I did set it to 0 Andy and I thought
if I did this it would delete all the mail in the deleted items retention.
I also found out where the mail was it was in the recover deleted items
retention.  Also if I set it up for 0 is that bad?  Thanks for helping me
finding it. 

Rich

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From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mad at My Exchange Server



"I like Candee!"




-Original Message-
From: Candee Vaglica [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 10:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mad at My Exchange Server


Don't be silly, Andy.

*It seemed like a good idea at the time.*


Candee
MOS+UN

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:53 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mad at My Exchange Server


turn it off? You mean set it to 0?  Why?


-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mad at My Exchange Server


I had that on for a few days then I turn it off. Deleted items retention.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mad at My Exchange Server


Go to "Recover Deleted Items" in Outlook
Whats your DIR time set to?


-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Mad at My Exchange Server


I cannot find where my users deleted items are and it still shows that there
is 256,000 k in the Private information store under the deleted items K
column.


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RE: Mad at My Exchange Server

2001-10-25 Thread Andy David


"I like Candee!"




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From: Candee Vaglica [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 10:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mad at My Exchange Server


Don't be silly, Andy.

*It seemed like a good idea at the time.*


Candee
MOS+UN

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:53 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mad at My Exchange Server


turn it off? You mean set it to 0?  Why?


-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mad at My Exchange Server


I had that on for a few days then I turn it off. Deleted items retention.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mad at My Exchange Server


Go to "Recover Deleted Items" in Outlook
Whats your DIR time set to?


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From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Mad at My Exchange Server


I cannot find where my users deleted items are and it still shows that there
is 256,000 k in the Private information store under the deleted items K
column.


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RE: Mad at My Exchange Server

2001-10-25 Thread Candee Vaglica

Don't be silly, Andy.

*It seemed like a good idea at the time.*


Candee
MOS+UN

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:53 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mad at My Exchange Server


turn it off? You mean set it to 0?  Why?


-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mad at My Exchange Server


I had that on for a few days then I turn it off. Deleted items retention.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mad at My Exchange Server


Go to "Recover Deleted Items" in Outlook
Whats your DIR time set to?


-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Mad at My Exchange Server


I cannot find where my users deleted items are and it still shows that there
is 256,000 k in the Private information store under the deleted items K
column.


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RE: Mad at My Exchange Server

2001-10-25 Thread Benjamin Winzenz

Friggin~ Deleted Items Retention.  Haven't you been paying attention
Richard?  On OL2000, Highlight Deleted Items, choose Tools, Recover Deleted
Items.  Amaze yourself at how much mail is in there.  Did it get
Shift-deleted (hard delete)?  Oh, yeah, it's still in the Dumpster.  It
doesn't go away until the Deleted Items Retention period is over, or until
you delete them manually from the Dumpster.  Why is this such a hard concept
to understand?

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.


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From:   Robert Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:47 AM
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Subject:        RE: Mad at My Exchange Server

Do you want to find them? Or do you just want to delete them? Run
Mailbox Manager and delete them, if that's all you need.

Rob

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I cannot find where my users deleted items are and it still shows that
there
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column.


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RE: Mad at My Exchange Server

2001-10-25 Thread Andy David

turn it off? You mean set it to 0?  Why?


-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mad at My Exchange Server


I had that on for a few days then I turn it off. Deleted items retention.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mad at My Exchange Server


Go to "Recover Deleted Items" in Outlook
Whats your DIR time set to?


-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Mad at My Exchange Server


I cannot find where my users deleted items are and it still shows that there
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RE: Mad at My Exchange Server

2001-10-25 Thread Tener, Richard

I had that on for a few days then I turn it off. Deleted items retention.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mad at My Exchange Server


Go to "Recover Deleted Items" in Outlook
Whats your DIR time set to?


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From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Mad at My Exchange Server


I cannot find where my users deleted items are and it still shows that there
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column.


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RE: Mad at My Exchange Server

2001-10-25 Thread John Matteson

"Deleted" items are not really deleted, just hidden from the users and not
counted against a user's storage limitations.

They get deleted, should you have "deleted items retention" turn on, when
the conditions of the "deleted items retention" have been met. If you can't
find them, it's only because you haven't logged into a user's mailbox with
the latest OUTLOOK client, opened the Deleted Items folder, then gone to the
TOOLS menu and selected RECOVER DELETED ITEMS.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
(404) 239 - 2981 
Do not pray for an easy life, pray for the strength to endure a difficult
one. - Bruce Lee



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RE: Mad at My Exchange Server

2001-10-25 Thread Andy David

Go to "Recover Deleted Items" in Outlook
Whats your DIR time set to?


-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Mad at My Exchange Server


I cannot find where my users deleted items are and it still shows that there
is 256,000 k in the Private information store under the deleted items K
column.


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RE: Mad at My Exchange Server

2001-10-25 Thread Robert Moore

Do you want to find them? Or do you just want to delete them? Run
Mailbox Manager and delete them, if that's all you need.

Rob

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From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Mad at My Exchange Server


I cannot find where my users deleted items are and it still shows that
there
is 256,000 k in the Private information store under the deleted items K
column.


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Mad at My Exchange Server

2001-10-25 Thread Tener, Richard

I cannot find where my users deleted items are and it still shows that there
is 256,000 k in the Private information store under the deleted items K
column.


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