Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Defining Enlightenment and Awakening
Good morning Rick: On Jun 18, 2005, at 3:06 AM, Rick wrote: Yes, if only it were that simple. It may have been a delusion of self all along but this delusion believed in over countless lifetimes created an immensely complex mountain of Karmic energy that demands to be unwound. Step one: Discriminate purusha from prakriti. Step two: Unravel the mess that was made (without falling back into a delusional state). Until every last one of those Karmic seeds are burnt to ash there are still remnants of the individual. Interestingly, even M. states that in order for CC to be possible, one must attain nirvikalpa samadhi--and of course this is what allows the kleshas and the obscurations to dissolve. The sad thing is we were never taught a path to nirvikalpa. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Defining Enlightenment and Awakening
In this world people are all doing many practices for liberation. In none of these practices is anything other happening than this: the stream of consciousness is the ground, it is the path, it is the goal. There is nothing else but this. Those who say otherwise have gone off on a tangent. The stream of consciousness is the ground, it is the path, it is the goal. This is it, That is it. All this is that. En How. - Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Defining Enlightenment and Awakening Good morning Rick:On Jun 18, 2005, at 3:06 AM, Rick wrote: Yes, if only it were that simple. It may have been a delusion of self all along but this delusion believed in over countless lifetimes created an immensely complex mountain of Karmic energy that demands to be unwound. Step one: Discriminate purusha from prakriti. Step two: Unravel the mess that was made (without falling back into a delusional state). Until every last one of those Karmic seeds are burnt to ash there are still remnants of the individual.Interestingly, even M. states that in order for CC to be possible, one must attain "nirvikalpa samadhi"--and of course this is what allows the kleshas and the obscurations to dissolve. The sad thing is we were never taught a path to nirvikalpa.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Defining Enlightenment and Awakening
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good morning Rick: On Jun 18, 2005, at 3:06 AM, Rick wrote: Yes, if only it were that simple. It may have been a delusion of self all along but this delusion believed in over countless lifetimes created an immensely complex mountain of Karmic energy that demands to be unwound. Step one: Discriminate purusha from prakriti. Step two: Unravel the mess that was made (without falling back into a delusional state). Until every last one of those Karmic seeds are burnt to ash there are still remnants of the individual. Interestingly, even M. states that in order for CC to be possible, one must attain nirvikalpa samadhi--and of course this is what allows the kleshas and the obscurations to dissolve. The sad thing is we were never taught a path to nirvikalpa. LOL. What do you think nirvikalpa is? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Defining Enlightenment and Awakening
There is no goal nor path in TM. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In this world people are all doing many practices for liberation. In none of these practices is anything other happening than this: the stream of consciousness is the ground, it is the path, it is the goal. There is nothing else but this. Those who say otherwise have gone off on a tangent. The stream of consciousness is the ground, it is the path, it is the goal. This is it, That is it. All this is that. En How. - Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Defining Enlightenment and Awakening Good morning Rick: On Jun 18, 2005, at 3:06 AM, Rick wrote: Yes, if only it were that simple. It may have been a delusion of self all along but this delusion believed in over countless lifetimes created an immensely complex mountain of Karmic energy that demands to be unwound. Step one: Discriminate purusha from prakriti. Step two: Unravel the mess that was made (without falling back into a delusional state). Until every last one of those Karmic seeds are burnt to ash there are still remnants of the individual. Interestingly, even M. states that in order for CC to be possible, one must attain nirvikalpa samadhi--and of course this is what allows the kleshas and the obscurations to dissolve. The sad thing is we were never taught a path to nirvikalpa. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Defining Enlightenment and Awakening
On Jun 18, 2005, at 7:36 PM, sparaig wrote: Interestingly, even M. states that in order for CC to be possible, one must attain nirvikalpa samadhi--and of course this is what allows the kleshas and the obscurations to dissolve. The sad thing is we were never taught a path to nirvikalpa. LOL. What do you think nirvikalpa is? Beyond TM. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Defining Enlightenment and Awakening
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 18, 2005, at 7:36 PM, sparaig wrote: Interestingly, even M. states that in order for CC to be possible, one must attain nirvikalpa samadhi--and of course this is what allows the kleshas and the obscurations to dissolve. The sad thing is we were never taught a path to nirvikalpa. LOL. What do you think nirvikalpa is? Beyond TM. well, duh. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/