Re: Fedora 10 release banner - text to path conversion
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 03:22:10PM +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Paul W. Frields wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 12:05:44PM +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: >>> Offtopic: no isn't Inkscape's work to complain, your word processor >>> don't complain for a missing font, your PDF viewer don't complain, >>> your web browser don't complain and so on. The applications try to >>> find a matching font available. >> >> Going OT, but in the future we hope to make it possible for you to get >> these kinds of add-ons easily using freedesktop.org standards and >> PackageKit. > > I saw you touched this feature in an interview about F10 (in The > Register I believe), but for this particular case it would need buy-in > from the application developers (Inkscape here) who need to be convinced > about the need and from our own desktop developers who are tryng to go > away from using RPMs for font installation (something where they > disagree with the fonts SIG). That's opposed to the multimedia codecs > use case, where it wil probably have instant acceptance. To some extent it depends on what capabilities are developed for opening documents directly from the desktop space, too. Fonts may be a tricky subject but the overall mission should be to lessen the amount of interaction an end user has to have with packages. Package names and usage are often very non-obvious and if we can help desktop users avoid them, all the better. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug pgpMnACq2kNof.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora 10 release banner - text to path conversion
Paul W. Frields wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 12:05:44PM +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: Offtopic: no isn't Inkscape's work to complain, your word processor don't complain for a missing font, your PDF viewer don't complain, your web browser don't complain and so on. The applications try to find a matching font available. Going OT, but in the future we hope to make it possible for you to get these kinds of add-ons easily using freedesktop.org standards and PackageKit. I saw you touched this feature in an interview about F10 (in The Register I believe), but for this particular case it would need buy-in from the application developers (Inkscape here) who need to be convinced about the need and from our own desktop developers who are tryng to go away from using RPMs for font installation (something where they disagree with the fonts SIG). That's opposed to the multimedia codecs use case, where it wil probably have instant acceptance. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora 10 release banner - text to path conversion
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 12:05:44PM +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Jaroslav Reznik wrote: >> Paolo Leoni wrote: >>> I think that the font that you're looking for is MgOpenModata, it's >>> in >>> the standard repository, type: >>> >>> yum -y install mgopen-fonts >> >> Thanks, >> I've already "dig" it from SVG source, investigation work :) Inkscape should >> complain about missing font! > > Offtopic: no isn't Inkscape's work to complain, your word processor > don't complain for a missing font, your PDF viewer don't complain, your > web browser don't complain and so on. The applications try to find a > matching font available. Going OT, but in the future we hope to make it possible for you to get these kinds of add-ons easily using freedesktop.org standards and PackageKit. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug pgpFkljyAqf4o.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora 10 release banner - text to path conversion
Jaroslav Reznik wrote: Nicu Buculei wrote: Offtopic: no isn't Inkscape's work to complain, your word processor don't complain for a missing font, your PDF viewer don't complain, your web browser don't complain and so on. The applications try to find a matching font available. I know and you are right but a long time ago corel complaints about it. It's OK for word processor/PDF viewer to match available font and show at least something you can read. For gfx it's not what I want, I need exact look. But you know, I'm not artist, so it's my own lama opinion :) This has potential for an interesting debate upstream at Inkscape. I know I had to tell a lot of people so far about yum installing mgopen-fonts, so such a feature would have saved some work. Ok, thanks! I realized it before and I think better is to switch 1st and 3rd screenshots - the 1st one is more important than login screen. Now the whole panel is visible and same for that upper right "handle". http://rezza.hofyland.cz/fedora/artwork/banners/fedora10-0day-banner-kde.png I thin this is it. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora 10 release banner - text to path conversion
- "Nicu Buculei" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > Paolo Leoni wrote: > >> I think that the font that you're looking for is MgOpenModata, > it's > >> in > >> the standard repository, type: > >> > >> yum -y install mgopen-fonts > > > > Thanks, > > I've already "dig" it from SVG source, investigation work :) > Inkscape should > > complain about missing font! > > Offtopic: no isn't Inkscape's work to complain, your word processor > don't complain for a missing font, your PDF viewer don't complain, > your > web browser don't complain and so on. The applications try to find a > matching font available. I know and you are right but a long time ago corel complaints about it. It's OK for word processor/PDF viewer to match available font and show at least something you can read. For gfx it's not what I want, I need exact look. But you know, I'm not artist, so it's my own lama opinion :) > > > So second try: > > > http://rezza.hofyland.cz/fedora/artwork/banners/fedora10-0day-banner-kde.png > > Yes, that should de it. > > I hope I will not annoy you with an idea I got right now: the leftmost > > screenshot, the basic KDE desktop, could be recognized by two > elements: > the dark bottom panel and the upper-right widget (I don't know its > name), but that widget is not very visible. Probably it may be > possible > to play on the Y and Z axis to make it more obvious. Ok, thanks! I realized it before and I think better is to switch 1st and 3rd screenshots - the 1st one is more important than login screen. Now the whole panel is visible and same for that upper right "handle". http://rezza.hofyland.cz/fedora/artwork/banners/fedora10-0day-banner-kde.png R. > -- > nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com > Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ > Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora 10 release banner - text to path conversion
Jaroslav Reznik wrote: Paolo Leoni wrote: I think that the font that you're looking for is MgOpenModata, it's in the standard repository, type: yum -y install mgopen-fonts Thanks, I've already "dig" it from SVG source, investigation work :) Inkscape should complain about missing font! Offtopic: no isn't Inkscape's work to complain, your word processor don't complain for a missing font, your PDF viewer don't complain, your web browser don't complain and so on. The applications try to find a matching font available. So second try: http://rezza.hofyland.cz/fedora/artwork/banners/fedora10-0day-banner-kde.png Yes, that should de it. I hope I will not annoy you with an idea I got right now: the leftmost screenshot, the basic KDE desktop, could be recognized by two elements: the dark bottom panel and the upper-right widget (I don't know its name), but that widget is not very visible. Probably it may be possible to play on the Y and Z axis to make it more obvious. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora 10 release banner - text to path conversion
- "Paolo Leoni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jaroslav Reznik ha scritto: > > Hi Máirín, > > can you convert texts in source SVG to paths? I don't have font > > for release number on my system and I'd like to finish Fedora KDE > > release banner. Or is this font available somewhere in repo? > > But still I think for final distribution is better to convert all > > static texts to path. > > > > Thanks > > R. > > > > I think that the font that you're looking for is MgOpenModata, it's > in > the standard repository, type: > > yum -y install mgopen-fonts Thanks, I've already "dig" it from SVG source, investigation work :) Inkscape should complain about missing font! So second try: http://rezza.hofyland.cz/fedora/artwork/banners/fedora10-0day-banner-kde.png R. > > -- > Paolo Leoni ~ http://pleoni.altervista.org > GPG fingerprint: DAD1 6419 D42B 0B1C D9E1 A9CB 4587 4812 17F7 F764 > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora 10 release banner - text to path conversion
Jaroslav Reznik ha scritto: > Hi Máirín, > can you convert texts in source SVG to paths? I don't have font > for release number on my system and I'd like to finish Fedora KDE > release banner. Or is this font available somewhere in repo? > But still I think for final distribution is better to convert all > static texts to path. > > Thanks > R. > I think that the font that you're looking for is MgOpenModata, it's in the standard repository, type: yum -y install mgopen-fonts -- Paolo Leoni ~ http://pleoni.altervista.org GPG fingerprint: DAD1 6419 D42B 0B1C D9E1 A9CB 4587 4812 17F7 F764 ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora 10 release banner - text to path conversion
- "Máirín Duffy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nicu Buculei wrote: > > Paul W. Frields wrote: > >> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 02:08:25PM +0100, Paolo Leoni wrote: > >>> For your convenience, I've uploaded on my webspace a little > modified > >>> version of the large banner from Mo and Jayme Hayres SVG format): > >>> > >>> http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora10-0day-banner.svg > >>> > >>> http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora10-0day-banner.png > >> > >> That looks like it might be the ticket -- let's have some more > >> approvals from better eyes than mine, and we can have it added to > the > >> site for tomorrow. Thanks Paolo! > > > > Until we get on OK from Mo, a minor modification from me: I made > the > > rounded corners transparent (clipped) and also moved the screenshots > a > > few pixels: > > http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/banners/fedora10-0day-banner.png > > http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/banners/fedora10-0day-banner.svg > > Let's use this one for the main banner, and use the > text-less banner from Paolo as the side banner. So just to > make it click-easy for Ricky: > > Large banner: > http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/banners/fedora10-0day-banner.png > > Small banner: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Fedora10-banner-simple.png > > > Can someone upload these also to > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/PromoBanners ? We need > both the banners and source to be uploaded. The source for > the large one is here: > > http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/banners/fedora10-0day-banner.svg Hi Máirín, can you convert texts in source SVG to paths? I don't have font for release number on my system and I'd like to finish Fedora KDE release banner. Or is this font available somewhere in repo? But still I think for final distribution is better to convert all static texts to path. Thanks R. > Paolo do you have a link for the source for > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Fedora10-banner-simple.png? > > ~m > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list