Re: Desktop Summit Planning
On 14 December 2011 13:32, Lennart Poettering mzta...@0pointer.de wrote: Well, but let's not forget that the folks you explicitly list here are probably more on the side against the colocation than for it. At least of the one you named first I know that he is against the combined conf. And I think Richard is too, I think (Richard?) First things first, I'll be happy if we have a GUADEC or a desktop summit, both events rocked hard. My preference would be for the former, just on the personal belief that I end up doing so much extra work for the KDE desktop and get virtually nothing back. It seems to me that low level gnome hackers end up doing all the infrastructure grunt work in the name of cross-desktop compatibility and then KDE either does something different or abstracts it one layer higher. I can't think of one system service we use in the GNOME stack that's maintained by a KDE person. I can name a dozen GNOME maintainers doing the opposite. But like I say, I don't have a particularly strong view about it. Richard. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Desktop Summit Planning
We used to get free rooms (~4) at MIT on Columbus day long weekend. I will inquire. What sort of rooms? Large lecture halls? Ordinary classrooms? Does anyone recall the room numbers from a previous time? -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use free telephony http://directory.fsf.org/category/tel/ ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Boston Summit logistics (was Re: Desktop Summit Planning)
Thanks so much for offering to look into this, Richard! I hear that the Stata Center was a better location in the past than the Economics Building if we have the choice... When it was in the Stata Center, which rooms were they? If I get the room numbers, I will know exactly what to ask for. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use free telephony http://directory.fsf.org/category/tel/ ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Boston Summit logistics (was Re: Desktop Summit Planning)
Richard, Le vendredi 16 décembre 2011, à 10:39 -0500, Richard Stallman a écrit : Thanks so much for offering to look into this, Richard! I hear that the Stata Center was a better location in the past than the Economics Building if we have the choice... When it was in the Stata Center, which rooms were they? If I get the room numbers, I will know exactly what to ask for. I never went to a Boston Summit in the Stata Center, but in 2004 and 2005, we had rooms 124 and 144 (according to schedules on the wiki: http://live.gnome.org/Boston2004/TheSchedule and http://live.gnome.org/Boston2005/TheSchedule) In the last few years, I think we had E51-315, E51-325, E51-335, E51-345 (in the Tang Center). Cheers, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Boston Summit logistics (was Re: Desktop Summit Planning)
On Fri, 2011-12-16 at 10:39 -0500, Richard Stallman wrote: Thanks so much for offering to look into this, Richard! I hear that the Stata Center was a better location in the past than the Economics Building if we have the choice... When it was in the Stata Center, which rooms were they? If I get the room numbers, I will know exactly what to ask for. From what I can tell from the wiki, we were in the Stata center most recently in 2005 and haven't been since. Stata Center rooms: - Kirsch Auditorium - Room 124 - Room 144 - Room 154 - Hallway between those rooms for a registration + food table (more details https://live.gnome.org/Boston2005/TheSchedule) Alternatively, in 2006 we were in the Media Lab: - Bartos Theatre - Rothschild Room - Wiesner Room - Room 235 - Room 135 - Room 483A - Room 443A - Cool Hangout Room (more details https://live.gnome.org/Boston2006) In 2008, 2009, 2010 we were at the MIT Sloan Tang Center / E51 Building: - E51-315 - E51-325 - E51-335 - E51-345 - E51-372 - E51-376 - Hallway between those rooms for a registration + food table (more details https://live.gnome.org/Boston2010) I'm not sure which is the economics building (I guess E51?) Anyway I hope this list helps. ~m ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Boston Summit logistics (was Re: Desktop Summit Planning)
2011/12/16 Máirín Duffy du...@fedoraproject.org: On Fri, 2011-12-16 at 10:39 -0500, Richard Stallman wrote: Thanks so much for offering to look into this, Richard! I hear that the Stata Center was a better location in the past than the Economics Building if we have the choice... When it was in the Stata Center, which rooms were they? If I get the room numbers, I will know exactly what to ask for. From what I can tell from the wiki, we were in the Stata center most recently in 2005 and haven't been since. Stata Center rooms: - Kirsch Auditorium - Room 124 - Room 144 - Room 154 - Hallway between those rooms for a registration + food table (more details https://live.gnome.org/Boston2005/TheSchedule) Alternatively, in 2006 we were in the Media Lab: - Bartos Theatre - Rothschild Room - Wiesner Room - Room 235 - Room 135 - Room 483A - Room 443A - Cool Hangout Room (more details https://live.gnome.org/Boston2006) In 2008, 2009, 2010 we were at the MIT Sloan Tang Center / E51 Building: - E51-315 - E51-325 - E51-335 - E51-345 - E51-372 - E51-376 - Hallway between those rooms for a registration + food table (more details https://live.gnome.org/Boston2010) I'm not sure which is the economics building (I guess E51?) Anyway I hope this list helps. ~m The problem with the Stata Center is it costs money, is harder to book and the rooms do not hold as much and usually we need an extra room outside the main hall. The Tang center is usually given to us gratis, have huge rooms with AV equipment, no AV setup charges and is usually easy to book during the columbus day weekend. It isn't as sexy as the Stata Center but it fits our needs much better. Also I have to note that I think booking for next year doesn't start until February or March. -- John (J5) Palmieri ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Boston Summit logistics (was Re: Desktop Summit Planning)
Can we have next one in Toronto please? :D I can run. On 12/16/2011 12:45 PM, john palmieri wrote: 2011/12/16 Máirín Duffy du...@fedoraproject.org: On Fri, 2011-12-16 at 10:39 -0500, Richard Stallman wrote: Thanks so much for offering to look into this, Richard! I hear that the Stata Center was a better location in the past than the Economics Building if we have the choice... When it was in the Stata Center, which rooms were they? If I get the room numbers, I will know exactly what to ask for. From what I can tell from the wiki, we were in the Stata center most recently in 2005 and haven't been since. Stata Center rooms: - Kirsch Auditorium - Room 124 - Room 144 - Room 154 - Hallway between those rooms for a registration + food table (more details https://live.gnome.org/Boston2005/TheSchedule) Alternatively, in 2006 we were in the Media Lab: - Bartos Theatre - Rothschild Room - Wiesner Room - Room 235 - Room 135 - Room 483A - Room 443A - Cool Hangout Room (more details https://live.gnome.org/Boston2006) In 2008, 2009, 2010 we were at the MIT Sloan Tang Center / E51 Building: - E51-315 - E51-325 - E51-335 - E51-345 - E51-372 - E51-376 - Hallway between those rooms for a registration + food table (more details https://live.gnome.org/Boston2010) I'm not sure which is the economics building (I guess E51?) Anyway I hope this list helps. ~m The problem with the Stata Center is it costs money, is harder to book and the rooms do not hold as much and usually we need an extra room outside the main hall. The Tang center is usually given to us gratis, have huge rooms with AV equipment, no AV setup charges and is usually easy to book during the columbus day weekend. It isn't as sexy as the Stata Center but it fits our needs much better. Also I have to note that I think booking for next year doesn't start until February or March. -- John (J5) Palmieri ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Desktop Summit Planning
Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me a écrit: For instance, having Plumbers conference with a desktop conference would be quite interesting I think considering the direction we are moving towards. A vertical platform, this might be more interesting. I couldn't agree more, Sri. Thank you for raising this. I'd personally find the idea more interesting and potentially fruitful in terms of synergies we could build and leverage on than a Desktop Summit with our KDE friends. Heck I'd think we'd even get more bang for the bucks if we could co-locate these two events with something like the GNU Tools Cauldron[1]. But that would be food for future thoughts at this point. One thing to keep in mind, though, is that hosting an event like GUADEC (co-located with, e.g, the Plumbers conference) in the U.S. might cause quite some frictions for some non-U.S. citizens willing to join the event because of the difficulty of dealing with the visa system. [1]: http://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/cauldron2012 -- Dodji ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
What kind of device is GNOME 3 best suited for?
I realize that there is a lot of development going on to make GNOME 3 function well on new kinds of devices, such as touch screen support. Awesome, really. However, I wonder on what sort of device GNOME 3 is best targeted for. Most tablets that are currently popular differentiate themselves a lot by features that relate to media. Many people love doing things like playing and creating audio and video using touch screen devices. We are starting to see products like this on the market, for example: http://www.digitech.com/en/products/ipb-10-programmable-pedalboard Wow! One challenge, I think, for the free software community is providing free media services, yet so much popular media is wrapped up in DRM and patents. Perhaps guitar effects pedals, while cool, is probably a pretty small market. However, I suspect there are markets where a GNOME 3 based desktop would be quite useful, such as in specific-use hardware like, perhaps point-of-sale systems. a PoS system based on free software would be an affordable solution to many small business owners, I'd think. I am sure this has been discussed, but I am curious what sort of devices people think GNOME 3 would be best suited for. Brian ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
